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    Oxytocin

    I recently re-read the Wikipedia (I know, great source of information) entry on Oxytocin.

    Oxytocin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In it, that I somehow missed the first time around are the following quotes:

    "According to some studies in animals, oxytocin inhibits the development of tolerance to various addictive drugs (opiates, cocaine, alcohol) and reduces withdrawal symptoms." Does this sound familiar to anyone?

    "Sexual arousal. Oxytocin injected into the cerebrospinal fluid causes spontaneous erections in rats,[34] reflecting actions in the hypothalamus and spinal cord." Uncontrolled horniness abounds in the baclofen threads!

    "MDMA (ecstasy) may increase feelings of love, empathy and connection to others by stimulating oxytocin activity via activation of serotonin 5-HT1A receptors, if initial studies in animals apply to humans.[53] The anxiolytic Buspar (buspirone) also appears to produce some or all of its effect via 5-HT1A receptor-induced oxytocin stimulation." Several people have reported this feeling.

    "Bonding. In the Prairie Vole, oxytocin released into the brain of the female during sexual activity is important for forming a monogamous pair bond with her sexual partner. Vasopressin appears to have a similar effect in males.[46] Oxytocin has a role in social behaviors in many species, and so it seems likely that it also does in humans. In 2003, a study showed that in both humans and dogs oxytocin levels in the blood rose after five to twenty four minutes of a petting session. It is possible that this plays a role in the emotional bonding between humans and dogs." This at least goes part way to explaining the excessive love for pets that some people have. Murph, it's not your fault you like sheep. Like all things, it's chemical in nature.

    There are many more relevant quotes, have a read, it's fascinating. It seems many of the SE's are attributable to this hormone, well, the good ones anyway. Among the SE's are the following:

    "Decreased heart rate or heart rate decelerations"

    Which quite a few people have reported.

    and

    Nausea and vomiting

    Which has also been reported.

    Sadly, death is among them as well, but clearly that's not an issue here.

    The problem seems to be in the very short half-life (3 minutes), but I suppose if you ran around all day feeling like you were on E, you'd not get much productive stuff done. That happened to me though for a few days, and other people have reported it lasting for a while.

    Very interesting stuff indeed.

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    Interesting stuff Bleep. There's one thing from the Wiki page that goes contrary to most people's experience of bac:
    One study confirmed that there was a positive correlation between oxytocin plasma levels and an anxiety scale measuring the adult romantic attachment.[19] This suggests that oxytocin may be important for the inhibition of brain regions that are associated with behavioral control, fear, and anxiety, thus allowing orgasm to occur.

    Has anyone reported easier orgasms? Loads have reported delayed or even total inability to orgasm.

    The unexamined life is not worth living

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      At one level, I can't remember which, there's definitely a point of easy orgasm. To ridiculous levels per day. I remember it fondly.

      It looks a little like Oxytocin may be a bit of an unsung hero amidst all of this.

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        Actually, I think Grommett reported that as well. In his case the effect lasted a long time. I'm not sure how common that is though. Then again, I suppose it's not the sort of SE people are going to post about. Hmmmmm.

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          Why did I not get any of these 'good' effects?I just felt cr@p and it didn't affect me sexually either - well apart from me nodding off all the time, and generally couldn't be bothered to do anything.

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            Oxytocin is amazing. I looked up supps for it but alas, that 3 minute half-life is no good.
            Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
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              Murphyx;1148457 wrote: .

              Has anyone reported easier orgasms? Loads have reported delayed or even total inability to orgasm.
              I don't have a problem.

              Nice avi Murphy. This might be one of the most interesting yet. :H

              I thought it interesting that oxytocin is helpful for autism, as is baclofen (maybe). I've always been interested in oxytocin. It is an amazing hormone. Some say, women get addicted to oxytocin in a sense. That is why some have so many children...think octomom. It is also why they go for the 'bad boy', it increases oxytocin in the female's system. These are called oxytocin addicted relationships. I find this strange, because it is the bonding hormone and one would think it the opposite.

              Thanks for sharing Bleepster. I wish we knew how much bac raises oxytocin in the human. I know it does in the rat, and clearly most have felt its effects on the higher doses, but I do wonder how high our levels get. Do they get so high, that you as men, are like a breastfeeding woman? I doubt it, but you never know. :H
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                Red, at one point it definitely felt like I was on E for a couple of days. I wish now I hadn't raced through my titration - I know Isolde reported having the feeling for a while, so if the half life is indeed 3 minutes, it must have been being pumped out at a furious rate of knots to have maintained the feeling for so long!

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                  bleep;1148662 wrote: Red, at one point it definitely felt like I was on E for a couple of days. I wish now I hadn't raced through my titration - I know Isolde reported having the feeling for a while, so if the half life is indeed 3 minutes, it must have been being pumped out at a furious rate of knots to have maintained the feeling for so long!
                  I feel like I'm on E a lot Bleepster. :H I think some of the side effects haven't gone away for me. Or maybe it's that I'm titrating up again. Who knows?
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                    When I titrate is up is when I feel like I'm rolling.
                    Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
                    George Santayana

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                      I can't speak to spontaneous erections, MDMA, or voles, but I can attest to the rest. It lasted for about 5 months, though, and is still hanging around (minus the incredible energy, sadly) so I attribute a lot of it to sheer joy and amazement rather than a 3-minute-hormone. I can actually attest to other things being remarkably fast and profound in an unprecedented way. It was lovely. (ha. It was mind-altering!)

                      But it wasn't consistent, so who knows?
                      I've decided that rather than chase it I'm just going to work at it, dammit... cross your fingers! Back to the weights for me.

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                        Bleep, I recall this thread, I read it, but it was mostly in relation to HDB/bac which I'm not doing high doses of, so I felt it wasn't something I was interested in. However, if Ig says he may supplement with oxy, what is he planning on using as a source? I sure would like to feel that way too except for the needing to reproduce in great pain as part of the equation...

                        Oxytocin is best known for its roles in female reproduction. It is released in large amounts 1) after distension of the cervix and uterus during labor, and 2) after stimulation of the nipples, facilitating birth and breastfeeding.

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                          Bruunhilde;1150874 wrote: I sure would like to feel that way too except for the needing to reproduce in great pain as part of the equation.
                          What are you talking about Brunn, I don't think its painful, just a psychological hurdle:H
                          Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                            Well, I had some oxytocin last night. It was in a pure liquid for used generally for injection.

                            I took it by basically poring it into my nostrils! Ftr 1ml goes a long way by this method, maybe I have a small nose. Anyway looking for an alternative method.

                            Has anybody had any experience with this stuff. I can't put my finger on the affect it had, if any, but I would like to investigate further.
                            Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                              #15
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                              Ig that just sounds like you're looking to abuse it man.
                              Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
                              George Santayana

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