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[Otter]

http://www.newark.rutgers.edu/neuroscience/pare.php

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Anxiety again

Wow, Otter. Some really fascinating stuff here directly related to things I've been grappling with for my own life/anxiety.

In all fairness, and because it's what I do, the latter links are promoting stuff you can buy. That's not legit, you know? They seem to be, at least the Guru guy, condensing and reacting to the legit science, though, so they may be of value to some people.

The first, the Linden link, is based on CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, not the important CBT--Consolidated Baclofen Thread. )
I happen to think that CBT is a crock, in terms of getting rid of the disease of alcoholism. It may be a component for learning how to live without alcoholism, though. Or at least one of the tools. If behavioral therapy worked for me, I would've been sober at 18 after a couple of years of it. Or sober in AA at 25, which has a lot of CBT incorporated into the steps.

The research that Pare is doing at Rutgers is going to be fascinating reading and I really appreciate the links.

Otter;1162815 wrote:
Rutgers University, Newark - Neuroscience Research

Best, Otter!
:l

[Greg]

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Thanks heaps for this Otter.

Just on the subject of CBT, I haven't personally found it useful so far, either for emotional problems or alcohol ones. I have found that initial anxiety, depression, or tiredness (either from broken sleep or rotten hangovers) could make the therapy very difficult to put into practice, but this can't be a huge problem for everyone with these issues or the therapy would never work.

I sometimes wonder about claims of effectiveness rates for both CBT and various psychiatric drugs, especially as some drug claims over the years have been contradicted by later opinions and evidence. I think I'm also skeptical because CBT is claimed by some practicioners to be effective for such a wide variety of disorders, which sounds just a bit too good to be true to me....although I have thought about giving it another shot lately aswell (mainly for depression).

Also, a major hospital anxiety clinic here in Australia that uses CBT for most patients won't admit anyone still having a problem with alcohol or benzodiazepines, which is a bit of a problem since so many untreated anxious people would feel a need for at least one of these substances, and so be excluded. They expect you to swap over to SSRI antidepressants if you need something to cope, and these don't help some people.

I still suggest that people should probably give it a fair trial for any troublesome issues, at least once or twice, and that anyone finding it helpful already would do best if they stick it out.

Anyway sorry for the anti-CBT rant, and thanks again for the information!

[Otter]

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