Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

Nice, PG. Sounds like you're well on your way! and a belated :welcome:


GS, peeps with former usernames they don't want to share pique my interest. (peak? peek? ) That said, good stuff all around. Right?

[Otter]

Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

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[Murphyx]

Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

Oh Otter please will you stop peddling that line. I know you believe it but no one else does and it's potentially very harmful. There is absolutely NO need to take baclofen at night or close to bedtime. You will NOT withdraw from baclofen overnight. Please Otter, stop doing this, it really is extremely counter productive.

[Otter]

Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

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[tiptronic_ct]

Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

Nonsense, Otter.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

Otter;1172746 wrote: Dosage is the next big issue which needs research. I am still sure that the best advice is to take it in evenly divided low doses. For instance, 25 mg every few hours. The amount of individual doses depends on whether the dose stops the craving while avoiding side effects. The frequency depends on how quickly you eliminate it from your system. That means everyone is different, both in terms of the individual doses and the frequency so you just cannot go by anyone else's experience, or your weight. It is entirely individual.

You should take more before bed so take two doses closer in time. Take some in the middle of the night if you wake up and take a dose as soon as you wake up and then another dose fairly soon after that. The object is to keep an even level in your system which is right for you so as to avoid cravings an d side effects.

If you take three doses during the day, you are going to have a long period where you withdraw from it overnight and you will wake up with withdrawal anxiety and cravings.

Beware this advice! It's not based on evidence or experience. Taking bac throughout the night might be more harmful than good. Amount of bac is not based on size or weight. This hypothesis has been repeatedly disproven. Taking bac close to bedtime can increase unwanted SEs.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

Otter;1172805 wrote: I don't agree with you. I have sent a PM.

I have my sources. I take this very serioiusly.

I stand by what I said. If you drink heavily at night you will wake up the next morning with a hang over. If you take baclofen in large amounts and then stop at night, you will have a Baclofen hangover. I say that because I tried it. It made me throw up the next morning. That is withdrawal. You can wake up with feelings of anxiety because of not taking Baclofen through the night. Sorry, that is my experience and the experience of others who drink in the morning if they don't keep up the Baclofen.

PMs don't cut it. If you have facts based on information we don't have access to, and the conclusions you draw from those facts are exactly contrary to the conventional wisdom and collective experience of these boards, you must share them or be suspected of making them up. How are your conclusions any different from anyone else who makes things up to suit their arguments?

Your sources include a widely discredited doctor who is no longer allowed to practice medicine, yet charges an exorbitant amount of money to offer erroneous advice to alcoholics about how to take bac. Much of which he compiled here more than a year ago.

You are not an alcoholic. You have not taken HDB. You have posted both facts here before. You recently stated, and have previously, that you take low dose bac in order to combat your anxiety. Your wife is the alcoholic and takes HDB. How is she? Is she still drinking alcoholically? At what cost?

What others are you basing your (incorrect) advice on?

[PHOTOGIRL]

Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

Hi everyone!
Thanks for all the advice and experiences.
My worse craving time is late afternoon/early evening which is why I save my 25mg until then. Taking the 12.5mg in the morning just gives my body a top up.
FYI - the Bac cost €4.25 per pack and I've got 3. I'm going to try and get some prescribed as I do have arthritis and it has, actually helped with my back so am hopeful that I can get it prescribed. If not, I'll stock up again when I'm in Spain in October!

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Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

PG,
How are you making out? Hope all is well!

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Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

Bump

[PHOTOGIRL]

Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

Oh Dear, Gotta ..... bad bump or just a little bruise????? Bac is going well - basically taking 2 x 25mg per day (morning and late afternoon). Am sleeping like a baby by 9.30!! Very very nearly cracked on Saturday night (Strictly Come Dancing's fault!!!) but my hubbie got me through ..... last night, though, had 2 glasses of red wine and, do you know, that was enough! Didn't get the usual urge/high that I would have usually got and actually I COULD have done without it so I'm not looking at it as a "bump" - rather than an educated knock!

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Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

PHOTOGIRL;1176551 wrote: Oh Dear, Gotta ..... bad bump or just a little bruise????? Bac is going well - basically taking 2 x 25mg per day (morning and late afternoon). Am sleeping like a baby by 9.30!! Very very nearly cracked on Saturday night (Strictly Come Dancing's fault!!!) but my hubbie got me through ..... last night, though, had 2 glasses of red wine and, do you know, that was enough! Didn't get the usual urge/high that I would have usually got and actually I COULD have done without it so I'm not looking at it as a "bump" - rather than an educated knock!

Good to hear from you PG! 50mg and no SEs yet - awesome! I found bac helped me sleep as well.
The bump was labeling your evening - it's a term used when pushing your thread to the top of the pile Keep us posted ok?:goodjob:

[PHOTOGIRL]

Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

Thanks for that, Gotta! Well last night there was 1/3 of a bottle of red wine left from Sunday ... hubbie away all week and previously I would have relished the fact that I could have whatever I liked and not be "told off". I would have had the remainder of the bottle of wine as a warm up whilst daughters doing homework, etc, etc, and preparing dinner. Thankfully I had a busy evening last night being back out again and not back until 9pm and when I did, cereal and milk for supper and I didn't even have the SLIGHTEST craving at all. Hoping tonight will be the same.
As regards the doses - I think I'm happy to stick at 50mg total per day, at least for the time being. I'm not going to get ahead of myself because that's just asking for trouble.
Hope you're doing good.

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Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

PHOTOGIRL;1177059 wrote: Thanks for that, Gotta! Well last night there was 1/3 of a bottle of red wine left from Sunday ... hubbie away all week and previously I would have relished the fact that I could have whatever I liked and not be "told off". I would have had the remainder of the bottle of wine as a warm up whilst daughters doing homework, etc, etc, and preparing dinner. Thankfully I had a busy evening last night being back out again and not back until 9pm and when I did, cereal and milk for supper and I didn't even have the SLIGHTEST craving at all. Hoping tonight will be the same.
As regards the doses - I think I'm happy to stick at 50mg total per day, at least for the time being. I'm not going to get ahead of myself because that's just asking for trouble.
Hope you're doing good.

PG,
Way to GO! You sound just like me - when left alone - it was like God was saying - drink your freakin face off cause nobody is there to stop you!
In terms of tonight - and remember, this is just my opinion - I think you should give yourself a goal. I guess this is based on a goal of abstinance, so if you are thinking abstinance, a 30 day AF goal would be a great way to break the habit. For me I was concerned with breaking the habit of coming home and diving in because it was the norm. I set a 30 day goal so that coming home and not drinking became normal - does that make sense? Either way, just some ideas for you to think about and I think you are doing great.
If 50 mgs is working for you than you are right, probably not much point in going higher, as long as everything is manageable. Keep us posted though, ok?:yay::happy:

[PHOTOGIRL]

Advice on doseage of Bac please!!!!!

ABSOLUTELY-FLIPPING-LUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!! When hubbie away - I did play! It was probably a way of me thinking "you're going out and enjoying yourself - so so am I". :nutso: That over the years lead me to be wanting the same "high" when he wasn't out ... so the secret drinking started and that, to my shame, would be hidden vodka in the untility room .... sometimes I would do one heck of a lot of washing:sigh:. Then, for whatever reason, its hit me that I need to do something about it this time for once and for all. I'm never going to say I'm going to be totally AL free. Always and always I've wanted just to be able to have a few drinks and be satisfied and I think I'm achieving that with Bac. Tonight I decided I would have some wine ..... afterall I'd had my parents visiting today for 4 hours who are enough to drive the Pope to drink (:H). Now whether that was just because of habit or what I don't know but, again, it's a struggle. I've probably had 1/2 the bottle over the last 3 1/2 hours .... in the past that would have been onto the 2nd bottle. If this is how I can be on Bac forever - bring it on. Happy Days:H
Thanks for your comments - really makes me feel I'm not alone:thanks: