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**Ne/Neva Eva** · September 7, 2011, 07:18 PM

Bac Nal Combo

Sammi, it's been done before, a lot.
Lo0p is the resident go to guy regarding the combo. PM him and you should get an answer. You can also use the difficult search engine to find a lot of related info.

**Sammi33** · September 7, 2011, 08:03 PM

Bac Nal Combo

Thanks Ne, I tried the search and became very frustrated! I will persevere.

**Guest** · September 7, 2011, 08:46 PM

Bac Nal Combo

Sammi

I can only advise on Nal on it's own. I did actually try 1 nal tab whilst still on Baclofen but that's all my experience of the two together.

So Nal on it's own - yes you could have been about to hit the jackpot when you quit and this is the biggest reason folk fail with TSM (from what I read plus I too have gone through those spikes).

It's difficult to predict if taking nal right now will help you because it doesn't always reduce drinking binges initially, some people take 6 -12 months to regain any sort of control. I can confirm however that I appear to have regained mine after the spikes I was having a few weeks ago.

All I can suggest is that if you can take the combo, then give it a whirl. I remember one member here who also couldn't take high dose bac, used Nal with low dose bac instead and so benefited from the reduced anxiety whilst experiencing lesser binges.

Oh and thank you so much for sharing your experience regards the side effects - or should I say lack of. There has been a lot of incorrect information floating around on this subject, and the only real side effect I've ever come across has been the transitory nausea which most(if you do have it) get over in a few days to a full week, and the slight tiredness when/if you do drink on it which compared to baclofen is negligible.

I don't think using the two will do you any harm, and if it works then it's a chance worth taking. I'm not a medical professional so this is only based on stuff I've read, heard and my own experiences too.

I think it was Charlieboy(?) who moved onto the two combined earlier this year, if that helps in your searching.

**redhead77** · September 7, 2011, 09:39 PM

Bac Nal Combo

I think it's important to be aware that you've already received medical advice. Your personal physician prescribed both to you at once. Considering you've had some success with nal, your doc deems the two safe together, and you actually have a script in hand...well, I'd be all over it.

I have done some research on nal...just a little. I will say, as I've said on my own thread (when the SEs were so bad at my switch dose, and I wasn't sure if I could continue on) that I would take nal if needed. I can't say it won't happen still. If I can't reach indifference and function, I would back down some, to what would still be considered HDB, and add nal into the mix. It is expensive without a script, so I would prefer not to do it. I won't hesitate if I can't get this to work for me (although it seems to be getting a ton better

).

I was often the kind of drinker who could force myself to have a number of AF days in a row. I then drank to blackout the minute the booze hit my lips. Not unlike what you mention, Sammi.

**Bruunhilde** · September 7, 2011, 11:22 PM

Bac Nal Combo

Hang in there Sammi, you are not alone in your down-n-outness. Many of us are there now and many have gotten out. Some very wise people here told me NEVER STOP STOPPING so keep that in mind and know its a journey. Don't penalize yourself for struggling, its wonderful that you're struggling because it means you're on your way out. Good luck my friend, keep posting.:l

**Sammi33** · September 8, 2011, 03:53 AM

Bac Nal Combo

Thanks so much to you all.

RH you are right my doctor has prescribed both so he must know they are safe together, I guess I was just curious as to what I might experience on both and wondered if anyone had thoughts. The other thing about my doctor is that he seems to prescribe very casually. He works at an addiction centre so I guess he sees this suff all day every day which is good because he obviously knows a lot about it, but I do feel his attitude is casual. I have seen him 3 times, the first time he prescribed nal, the second time he added campral and the third time he added bac. I stopped the campral because i was gaining weight (nothing to do with the beer of course!!), and when he prescribed baclofenhe told me to look up the side effects on the internet, which I found a little bit odd, particularly with some of the SE's I have experienced. If not for this forum i would have had no idea what i was getting in to.

UKBlonde, sorry if I misunderstood i thought you were on low dose bac as well. You are so right about the nal side effects, i think thats the best thing about it, and I love that it doesn't effect your mind or your thoughts. You reminded me about the sleepiness side effect if you drink when you take it, I had forgotten. I actually thought that was great. Basically the reason I was taking it was to try and drink less, and feeling sleepy and going to bed definitely made me drink less. I would rather feel sleepy at 8 and get a good night sleep than be dancing on tables at 4am!!!!! In fact, reminding me about that has made me think I am going to dive in and take both and see where it goes.

And Bruun, thank you, i will not stop stopping, i will keep on keeping on, great advice.

**redhead77** · September 8, 2011, 08:01 AM

Bac Nal Combo

I think maybe PMing LoOp may be the best way to get advice on what both would feel like. I can't imagine it would feel much different since you said nal gives you zero side effects. Do keep in mind, we are all different, so his experience may not be identical to yours. In regards to your prescribing casually, I think you are tremendously lucky. I'll bet some here would feel very happy to have a prescribing addiction doc locally. And he's willing to give you an aresenal if need be. I think all three drugs are pretty safe and don't seem to interact, so there shouldn't be harm in taking them, or two of them together. I think this probably allows him to be more casual when writing your rxs.

As far as him telling you to research the SEs on the internet...this is strange. Then again, if you actually read the drug pamphlet, there are so many SEs for him to go over, it would be rather exhaustive, and it might make you more alarmed than you need to be. Be happy you can get what you get from him, and have found other resources for the rest. :H

Keep posting! Tell us how this bac/nal combo goes.

**Sammi33** · September 8, 2011, 09:37 AM

Bac Nal Combo

Help.......

**Cinders** · September 8, 2011, 09:40 AM

Bac Nal Combo

Sammi,

Are you okay? What is wrong?

Cindi

**Sammi33** · September 8, 2011, 09:41 AM

Bac Nal Combo

Badness...just normal alkie stuff

**Cinders** · September 8, 2011, 09:43 AM

Bac Nal Combo

Gotcha,

Can you go lie down and drink some non-alcoholic beverages?

We have all been there.

Cindi

**Sammi33** · September 8, 2011, 09:44 AM

Bac Nal Combo

Just a normal bad AL night, thank you for caring

**Sammi33** · September 8, 2011, 09:45 AM

Bac Nal Combo

oops cross post sorry...can't, help me

**Guitarista** · September 8, 2011, 09:56 AM

Bac Nal Combo

Oi. Sam. Take control friend. Do it yourself, as no-one else will. Stay in touch, and go for it.

Greg.

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