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Cass: I've called him 3 times since I started. I think I just need to give this dose a longer time for my body to adjust. Thanks though

Red: Weekend has been pretty good! Full of catching up with old friends.

I am still on 60-40-40-40 broken up 0800, 1200, 1600, 2000. This seems to be much better for me than 60-60-60 as far as SEs go. The only main SE I have is being so tired. It isn't THAT bad though because I am not working. I don't know how I could do this while trying to hold a job.

The main times the SEs are the worst are around 1300-1600. For some reason I am extremely tired at some point during the afternoon and I get head snaps where my head will literally fall down and I'll snort and wake myself up snapping my head back up.

It aint that bad!

Rob

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Up to 200

Well it was monday yesterday and that is my titrate day. I am now at 50-50-50-50 dosing at 0600-0800, 1200, 1600, and 2000.

[Cassander]

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hey Dose --how's it going? Cass

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Cass, everything is good here thanks. I titrated up again to 60-60-60-60 at 0600-0800, 1200, 1700, 2200.

Last night I felt indifference... complete and total indifference. I went to the bar and drank some shots, but only because I was with a friend I hadn't seen in a long time. Even though I drank 7 shots or so, I kept leaving beers out and around. My friend even commented multiple times that he couldn't believe I was pouring out beers that were warm. Funny thing is he wanted to try baclofen too. I think he is an addict / alcoholic but he says he isn't. Either way, I gave him Dr. L's contact information and left him a few 20 mg pills. Like a true addict he wanted to start at 20mg and wouldn't let me cut the pill for him.

This has been a strange journey, and I have lost a lot of AA friends who don't want to listen to anything I have to say on the subject. I guess if it works for them I'll just leave it alone. "Science may one day accomplish this, but it hasn't done so yet." My experience is different!

Loving life,

Rob

[Bruunhilde]

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Awesome Dose, hope you continue to go down on the drink. I'd like to get there me self. 180mg/day and lower seems like dosages that work particularly well for younger people, quite well. Can I ask your age?

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Bruunhilde;1197182 wrote: Awesome Dose, hope you continue to go down on the drink. I'd like to get there me self. 180mg/day and lower seems like dosages that work particularly well for younger people, quite well. Can I ask your age?

I am 33 y/o male

[SlipperyPete]

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Good to hear it's working for you man.

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Ouch... I am having major baclofen SEs. I cannot sleep... at all. Last night I had 45 minutes of sleep and today I still cannot sleep and its nearly midnight. I took my last dose at 2000 and I am having major problems with my throat closing. On the other hand, I bought another bottle of rum and have no desire to drink it. I have no desire to drink at all. Tonight I have had one beer and last night I had one third of A BEER. This is crazy for me -- I could not put a wounded soldier down for any reason before taking Baclofen.

I am stuck though -- I am going through a major depression and I know quitting drinking is a large part of it.

Right now I am quitting my job; left my girlfriend; am moving states; taking baclofen; have a kidney stone, am taking viccoden and flomax for that; am in a generally in a fucked up state of mind; am so tired I cannot see straight; and going through massive debt because of it all. There are so many changes in my life right now that I couldn't point a finger at any one cause for my depression. I just hope that everything is happening for a reason and know that I cannot stop fighting.

I just want to sleep; anything for a night of deep sleep. I remember coming off booze before and going through a depression because of the loss of my coping mechanism. This time though, I do not have anything like AA to turn to. I know you people help me a lot, but feel like I need to talk to someone face to face.

Going through a rough patch -- and my side hurts so badly I am in constant pain.

At the moment life sucks!

Rob

[Cassander]

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Hey Dose. Yes, that all sucks. Our son is up north of 200 and going through a terrible depression, too. Not drinking either, but very depressed. I have urged him to talk to Dr L but don't know what else to do. Any one else have suggestions for Dose or Young Cass? We are with you, man.

Cass

[Otter]

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Have you tried Zopiclone for sleeping. It knocks you out in about 10 minutes for about 6 hours. It seems the depression is a major problem with coming off booze. Can you not still go to AA for someone to talk to other than here? You might give Phill Thomas a call. He would give you some free advice which might help with the depression and he was a doctor and is a hell of a good listener.

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Otter;1198798 wrote: Have you tried Zopiclone for sleeping. It knocks you out in about 10 minutes for about 6 hours. It seems the depression is a major problem with coming off booze. Can you not still go to AA for someone to talk to other than here? You might give Phill Thomas a call. He would give you some free advice which might help with the depression and he was a doctor and is a hell of a good listener.

Thanks for the info Otter. There is so much anger on both sides of THOMAS that I would prefer if this thread is not derailed into some sort of argument. I would hope both sides would respect that and not comment either way.

I slept for about 10 min just now... it was horrible sleep and I was awake for parts of it, but it felt really good. Shame to wake up and look at the clock and its 10 mins later though!

Going to go back and see how things go.

Rob

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strange how life works sometimes isn't it. I recently had a friend tell me he has a cpap and bipap machine. I had never heard of such a thing. He explained that he was tired all the time because he was waking up over and over due to his airway closing and it was called sleep apnea.

I have sleep apnea so badly right now that I cannot physically go to sleep. My airway completely closes and I wake myself up. It is caused by the baclofen without a doubt and people have listed this as a side effect. I am going to ask my friend if I can try using the machine for a nap. I'll keep you guys updated. I am pretty sure this is why I keep waking myself up gasping for air -- the baclofen relaxes my airway to the point I cannot breathe.

It was funny too because I went to the hospital for my kidney stone yesterday and saw that my o2 level was at 94%. This struck me as odd because they made me wear the o2 sensor the entire time I was there -- they didn't care the last time and I was always at 99%. *** I AM NOT A DOCTOR JUST MY OPINION *** This is because I haven't slept in the past 48 hours and my body is being depleted of o2 while I stay up.

I am going to try sleeping seated upright and see if that helps. I tried sleeping on my side and it is a no go.

Strange coincidence?

*** EDIT *** Lack of sleep can cause depression... hrm!

[SlipperyPete]

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The sleep apnea sounds horrible, dude. The good news is it appears to be temporary, but getting some quality sleep is a high priority.

If you don't have AA where you're at, have you considered a therapist?

[Lo0p]

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How much do you weigh man?

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Lo0p;1198905 wrote: How much do you weigh man?

I'm 6'0 220, but I wouldn't call me fat. I don't look like you, but I lift almost daily.