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    TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

    It's been 365 days since I reached my "switch," indifference to alcohol at 280mg/day baclofen. I'll try and keep this short and sweet....

    Some background: I'm in my 40's I drank heavily for 20 years, just about every night for the first 15, and more often during the days, then 24/7 towards the end. Typical week night for me was 8 beers and almost a pint of scotch, weekends were no holds barred.

    In my late thirties I had 4 trips to the ER, 2 outpatient detoxes (lorazepam), and 2 inpatient detoxes (phenobarbital). Attempts at moderation invariably put me in the exact place I left off in a month or less. CBT, SSRI's, counseling, did zero. AA was a profoundly poor fit for me as well (to put it mildly). I did try Moderation Management online, and had no luck finding Rational Recovery.

    I heard about, then read Ameisen's book in early 2010. I stumbled upon MWO soon after. I began titrating in March 2010 with Fexobac baclofen ordered online from India, 4rx.com. I was also extremely lucky to find a psychiatrist who began writing me a legit script in late spring 2010.

    Post "switch," my indifference has been effortless. My titration, however, was *definitely* not. I had very, very severe side-effects and wound up restrained in the ER and hospitalized for 5 days when I tried to increase my dose too high, too soon (recounted here). Increasing 20mg/week was too rapid for me and I settled closer to 10mg/week, and even then, day 2 after the increase was always a doozy, with intense hallucinations and shocks to my hands/fingers. All in all, it took 7 months of slow, steady titration for me to find indifference @280mg/day.

    I am very happy to report that today I am indifferent *and* side-effect free on high-dose baclofen (currently 220mg/day). I have been taking baclofen continuously for 19 months.

    My simple answer to overcoming side-effects is 1)slow, consistent titration 2)even dosing on an even schedule 60/60/60/60 at 6am/12pm/6pm/12am 3)consistency in brand of baclofen - don't interchange brands day to day and if you need to switch brands do it this way: (100% Brand A to 75% Brand A + 25% Brand B to 50% Brand A + 50% Brand B to 25% Brand A + 75% Brand B to 100% Brand B ).

    I've had a beer or 2 (or 3) a few times and that probably doesn't fit many people's definition of sobriety, but I know that baclofen has cured my alcohol addiction. I don't think about drinking, I don't remember about drinking, when I try and make a plan to drink a beer to enjoy the taste of it, I always forget it. I don't like to have more than 1 or 2, I don't like the feeling (it doesn't get me buzzed or drunk anymore) and I don't like how I feel in the morning. I don't have any of the cravings that made me feel like every night I was missing out because I couldn't drink a beer. I don't know if it will last forever, and maybe it's a slippery slope, but that's the way it is, and I feel confident, sane, and sharp as ever. Thank you Dr. Olivier Ameisen for making this journey possible, and Dr. Levin, Ne/Neva Eva, RedHead77, Lo0p, Cinders, craving, ZenStyle, beatle, ignominious, Murphy, bleep, _serenity_, moglor, guardian, birdy02, Otter, and anyone I've left out, for helping me along the way.

    -tk

    p.s. I've posted it before, but check out the link in my signature......
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    TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

    Congrats TK, that's amazing and a great story to tell everyone! Especially the titration. I think that will help many people. Thanks for telling your story and congratulations again!

    :wd:

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      TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

      Congratulations Terry, brilliant result! I don't post here much, but I have read a lot of your posts with interest. All the very best for the future.

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        TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

        Congrats Terry. I find your posts brilliant and well thought-out. Glad you've stuck around :goodjob:
        Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
        George Santayana

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          TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

          Major congrats, Terry, on your milestone. You rode out some seriously horrible SEs and look where that got you! Glorious indifference. I've always been impressed by your eloquence and obvious intelligence. I sincerely hope you continue to stick around this forum! :l

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            #6
            TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

            Congratulations Terry. So glad for you that you found your way out of hell. Life is good without AL in the drivers seat.

            DG
            Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
            Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


            One day at a time.

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              #7
              TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

              Congrats Terry! Best wishes for continued success!
              Nov 1 2006 avg 100 - 120 drinks/week
              April 29 2011 TSM avg 70 - 80/wk
              wks* 1- 6: 256/1AF (avg 42.6/wk)
              wks* 7-12: 229/3AF (avg 38.1/wk)
              wks 13-18: 192/5AF (avg 32.0/wk)
              wks 19-24: 176/1AF (avg 29.3/wk)
              wks 25-30: 154/10AF (avg 25.6/wk)
              wks 31-36: 30/37AF (avg 5/wk )

              I may not be there yet, but I'm closer than I was yesterday.
              http://www.thesinclairmethod.net/community/

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                TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

                Huge congratulations, Terry :goodjob:

                And an even bigger thank you for being one of the "voices of reason" on MWO.

                You rock!!!
                I'll do whatever it takes
                AF 21/08/2009

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                  TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

                  A beautiful result. Congrats.

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                    TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

                    Great work Terry k, delighted for you, Love reading your posts & keep up the great work your doing :-)


                    :congratulatory: Clean & Sober since 13/01/2009 :congratulatory:

                    Until one is committed there is always hesitant thoughts.
                    I know enough to know that I don't know enough.

                    This signature has been typed in front of a live studio audience.

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                      TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

                      Good stuff Terryk:goodjob:

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                        TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

                        Well done old son!
                        "energy" drinks contain a bunch of chemicals that may counteract baclofen's anti-craving mechanism (inositol is the ingredient that caught my eye
                        Terry, can you explain this? The Wiki passage you go on to quote doesn't suggest it, at least not to me.

                        The unexamined life is not worth living

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                          TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

                          I'm very happy for you TerryK, congratulations! You're story is a very important one.

                          I also really want you to know how much I value your participation in this community, however hard we all know it is sometimes. Reading your thoughts are generally like a breath of fresh air to me.

                          I wish that I had more time to actively engage you in a couple of the discussions we've had in the past. I feel like I had/have some meaningful things to say in response to some questions you've asked me (regarding food and baclofen), but just didn't have the time to hammer out my thoughts.

                          I always appreciate your opinions, which are usually (if not always) about as factual as you can possibly make them.

                          :goodjob:
                          :nutso: I take pride in my humility :nutso:
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                            TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

                            Murphyx;1183359 wrote: Well done old son!

                            Terry, can you explain this? The Wiki passage you go on to quote doesn't suggest it, at least not to me.
                            Energy drinks are known to be pretty evil on the old mind and body. I remember inositol being flagged up somewhere some time ago.

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                              TerryK celebrates 1 year of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

                              That is inspiring. But going up by 20 was too much for you and you wound up in ER? I have not had full on hallucinations but it has been pretty bad sometimes. Everything I have read here says to increase faster. I tried that and it was a massive failure for me. If I walked into the room and saw me in the condition that I was in when I was trying to increase so fast I would have taken me to ER. It was bad. I could not go to work which is very bad because people are getting let go all the time. I could not even follow a TV show. Not even if it was a rerun.

                              I work to hold the line at 20 and sometimes skip a week because I cannot bear taking anymore. Maybe from now on I will just try 10 a week.

                              Thanks for the inspiration. I'm glad that you found your way out.

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