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    Alice in MWO

    "But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
    "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
    "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
    "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."

    Seriously, this enormous release of steam (or whatever) is all probably for the best. The pressures have been building for many months.

    The MWO meds forum may not be the very best way for the baclofen community to get the word out, support those who want to see if baclofen works for them and who are working through its challenges, and follow clinical testing developments. Or maybe it is...

    But its certainly a time to reflect and consider how best to accomplish the goals of the community. We'll get past this and the miracle of bac will still be there for those who go for it.

    "Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
    "That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.
    "I don’t much care where--" said Alice.
    "Then it doesn’t matter which way you go," said the Cat.
    "--so long as I get SOMEWHERE," Alice added as an explanation.
    "Oh, you’re sure to do that," said the Cat, "if you only walk long enough."

    With huge admiration for the many courageous and compassionate folks on this board who have led the way. It ain't easy.

    Cassander

    (Quotes from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, Chapter 6)
    With profound appreciation to Dr Olivier Ameisen for his brilliant insight and courageous determination
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    Alice in MWO

    Shit, Cassander, I think this is sweet and brilliant, and I'm surprised more people didn't pounce on it. (I used to have the second quote on a beautiful framed illustration from Alice in Wonderland) I know I'm not aware of every single instance of drama around here, but I know it's gotten pretty viscous (sp?) at points. I second your sentiment and thought it was lovely way to express it. Thanks.
    "Yet someday this will have an end
    All choices made or choice resigned,
    And in your face the literal eye
    Trace little of your history,
    Nor ever piece the tale entire
    Of villages that had to burn
    And playgrounds of the will destroyed
    Before you could be safe from time
    And gather in your brow and air
    The stillness of antiquity."

    From "At Majority" by Adrienne Rich

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      Alice in MWO

      Cassander;1183796 wrote: "But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
      "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
      "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
      "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."

      BRILLIANT! From one mad Hatter to another :l

      Chill
      "In the depths of winter I finally learned there was in me an invincible summer ."
      AF - JAN 1st 2010
      NF - May 1996

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        Alice in MWO

        Cassander;1183796 wrote: [I]"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
        "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
        "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
        "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."


        :crazymonkey:ointup::dancingskel::yes2::confusedmonkey:


        :congratulatory: Clean & Sober since 13/01/2009 :congratulatory:

        Until one is committed there is always hesitant thoughts.
        I know enough to know that I don't know enough.

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          Alice in MWO

          Cassander;1183796 wrote: [I]"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
          "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
          "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
          "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."


          :crazymonkey:ointup::dancingskel::yes2: :H


          :congratulatory: Clean & Sober since 13/01/2009 :congratulatory:

          Until one is committed there is always hesitant thoughts.
          I know enough to know that I don't know enough.

          This signature has been typed in front of a live studio audience.

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            Alice in MWO

            We're all mad here

            Beautifully and poignantly expressed, Cassander.

            :goodjob:
            Better Living Through Chemistry

            Switched at 180mgs of Baclofen on 1/31/11, and again on 10/8/11 at 200mgs.

            Could've been a swan on a glassy lake, could've been a gull in a clipper's wake. Could've been a ladybug on a windchime, but she was born a dragonfly.
            ~Clutch

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              Alice in MWO

              'Now, I give you fair warning,' shouted the Queen, stamping on the ground as she spoke; 'either you or your head must be off, and that in about half no time! Take your choice!'

              'Nonsense!' said Alice, very loudly and decidedly, and the Queen was silent.

              Said Alice: 'They're dreadfully fond of beheading people here; the great wonder is, that there's any one left alive!'

              (With thanks to Lewis Carroll)





              .
              With profound appreciation to Dr Olivier Ameisen for his brilliant insight and courageous determination

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                Alice in MWO

                Cassander;1184627 wrote:
                'Now, I give you fair warning,' shouted the Queen, stamping on the ground as she spoke; 'either you or your head must be off, and that in about half no time! Take your choice!'

                'Nonsense!' said Alice, very loudly and decidedly, and the Queen was silent.

                Said Alice: 'They're dreadfully fond of beheading people here; the great wonder is, that there's any one left alive!'
                Sometimes I find myself looking around for the "Like" button. Now is one of those times.
                Better Living Through Chemistry

                Switched at 180mgs of Baclofen on 1/31/11, and again on 10/8/11 at 200mgs.

                Could've been a swan on a glassy lake, could've been a gull in a clipper's wake. Could've been a ladybug on a windchime, but she was born a dragonfly.
                ~Clutch

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                  Alice in MWO

                  GREAT!!!
                  Outside of a dog a book is mans best friend. Inside of a dog its too dark to read

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                    Alice in MWO

                    Isolde;1184758 wrote: Sometimes I find myself looking around for the "Like" button. Now is one of those times.


                    I'll help you out......
                    "In the depths of winter I finally learned there was in me an invincible summer ."
                    AF - JAN 1st 2010
                    NF - May 1996

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                      Alice in MWO



                      Thanks!

                      Can I be a Mad Hatter too? :nutso:
                      :nutso: I take pride in my humility :nutso:
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                        Alice in MWO

                        Chillgirl;1184779 wrote:
                        THANKS!

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                          Alice in MWO

                          Lo0p;1184783 wrote:
                          Can I be a Mad Hatter too? :nutso:
                          Cassander;1183796 wrote:
                          "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
                          Your here Lo0p arent you
                          "In the depths of winter I finally learned there was in me an invincible summer ."
                          AF - JAN 1st 2010
                          NF - May 1996

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                            Alice in MWO

                            Ah John ... thank you for sharing. Bye bye.

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                              Alice in MWO

                              cassander, this rocks!

                              but i must be mad! you're a guy?! jeepers, your name is john?!

                              it took me a sec to gander over here, and i'm so glad i finally did. after reading other poignant posts from this guy not gal, i knew i must be missing something good. thanks for the pretty dose of wisdom and literary genius.

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