Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

[Cinders]

Please, understand. This drug does not work for everyone.

I hope it works for a large amount of us but if it doesn't, we still must keep fighting our "whatever you want to call it."

So many here sound like messiahs. Give it a break. For those for whom it works, awesome.

For those for whom it doesn't help, keep trying.

I had a dear friend on this forum who went through years of trying to get sober. His mantra was "never give up giving up."

His name here was "Bear." He is my Ursula Major in the sky.

Do not lose the sight. We are here trying to get sober. The right way is the one that works for any of us.

Love,
Cindi

[KatieSmiles]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

Love you Cinders :l

[Dosage0]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

You are correct, and I hope whatever you find works for you. However, for some people this is the biggest breakthrough in their lives and I hope you can understand that they might be excited about it -- even to the extent they do. I am hoping it works for me, and I hope you find whatever works for you.

Rob

[RudyB]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

yeppers. your post has a decided undertone of condescencion and an obvious subtext of 'baclofen is probably terrible and you shouldn't love it.' maybe that impression is hugely due to the enveloping context of the nature of your recent presence here. and yep, sure enough bac is not the only way. but this is not a competition, a race to find the poster child of recovery medicine. it's a 'hurry up and don't die' kinda situation. what gives with the snarkiness shrouded in concern?

[Dosage0]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

Cinders;1184965 wrote: Please, understand. This drug does not work for everyone.

I hope it works for a large amount of us but if it doesn't, we still must keep fighting our "whatever you want to call it."

So many here sound like messiahs. Give it a break. For those for whom it works, awesome.

For those for whom it doesn't help, keep trying.

I had a dear friend on this forum who went through years of trying to get sober. His mantra was "never give up giving up."

His name here was "Bear." He is my Ursula Major in the sky.

Do not lose the sight. We are here trying to get sober. The right way is the one that works for any of us.

Love,
Cindi

Look... I would ask for both sides of the argument to stop and take a breath. I know this thread and this post is going to cause both sides to erupt in an argument because the of the second sentence about the messiah line and because it is directly posted in the medication forum. Please, I wish both sides would just calm down and realize that there is no one specific way to stop drinking and we are both trying to make it work in our own way. AA is correct when they say that there is no one way to stop this problem. I sincerely hope that whatever way you find is the right way for you. I am so passionate about baclofen, that I can barely stop singing its praise from the mountain tops, but I realize that it is not a magic bullet. There are so many different aspects of drinking and why people drink that there cannot be one way that works for every person on the planet. Please... just please... stop hating in either direction. I know when people come here and hope that drinking will stop because they take a certain medication and it doesn't work causes a lot of heart ache. I understand your pain. But please also understand that for some people this is the magic bullet and it has helped so many. Just be good to each other and stop the hate in each direction.

Just find what works for you... whether that be a spiritual program, a pill, some psychological counseling, AA, or whatever you find. Just post your positive experiences and stop all of the negativity. We can be negative in so many ways to each other... just please allow us to grow in a positive direction whatever the circumstance.

Allow the positives to overtake your negative comments,

Rob

[RudyB]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

good idea, rob.

i hope i don't come across as hateful. i'm not. maybe a bit defensive and ruffled in light of recent events and tones on the threads, but not a bit hateful. your sentiments resonate with me, dose, and your compassion is evident.

where's the 'refresh' button for the vibes in meds?

[Lo0p]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

Cinders wrote: Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

Of course you are right Cinders...BUT...


































...whatever goodness I am whipping up in this pan just might be:





MMMmmmMmmMM mmm!!!

[Dosage0]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

RudyB;1185035 wrote: good idea, rob.

i hope i don't come across as hateful. i'm not. maybe a bit defensive and ruffled in light of recent events and tones on the threads, but not a bit hateful. your sentiments resonate with me, dose, and your compassion is evident.

where's the 'refresh' button for the vibes in meds?

No, you are not hateful nor do your remarks come across as insincere in light of what you have felt about medication. I can just see how someone whom it didn't work for can be angry about their hopes were not met by bac. In light of what happened to a person whom I liked reading their thread happened, I just do not see why either side should continue. I just don't see why either side should continue fighting as both sides have valid points. This is true of any argument. Neither side is completely right or wrong. I just wish the forums would be left to positive comments rather than negative ones. I wish both sides would just stop... breathe... and realize that each side has a point. I hope the non medication people would move their positives to the non medication forums and the medication people can continue to inspire people to follow in their path.

Rob

[Greg]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

I'm definitely in favour of anything and everything that works to help with alcohol dependence, so much so that I once posted a very controversial little essay about alcohol substitutes as a treatment method (which I later retracted, as I thought it was going a bit too far putting it on a recovery forum). I myself used cannabis as a way of keeping off the booze for 19 months, and while it didn't cure me and I don't recommend it to others, it was way more positive (in my opinion) than keeping on drinking. Sometimes drastic problems call for drastic solutions. I'm in favour of baclofen because it appears to be more effective than standard treatments available for alcoholism, purely based on what I have read around here, but I would never try to talk anyone out of some other method of recovery if it was helping them either.

There is simply no need for an "us and them" mentality with this, because other psychological disorders also have numerous different possible treatments, none of which work for every person. You see this with the treatment of depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and various other disorders. It would also apply to most physical disorders too I imagine.

[mario]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

For the majority of us we have enough of a struggle with alcohol without struggling with whose recovery group or way out is best or worst. I have said it before - If it works for you great, hold onto it, if it doesn't then try another approach. Think of the recovery scene as a restaurant with a large menu - choose what suits and respect other people's choice.
Come on people we are all here after the same thing goal, To stop our abuse of Alcohol lets focus on that.

[ashanka1]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

Could some one please lead me to some articles or links that explain how baclofen works ....... I have tried naltrexone of the Sinclair method ....... and that clearly didnt make much of a dent in my drinking.

Thanks in advance.

[mario]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

ashanka1;1185063 wrote: Could some one please lead me to some articles or links that explain how baclofen works ....... I have tried naltrexone of the Sinclair method ....... and that clearly didnt make much of a dent in my drinking.

Thanks in advance.

https://www.mywayout.org/community/f2...ead-50513.html, Hope that helps as I dont do meds myself ,I am sure someone will be along soon to guide you a bit more good luck and dont quit quitting

[Lo0p]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

Okay so I guess I'm not as good at killing threads as I thought I was.

And yes, ashanka the consolidated thread is a good place to start.

[LadyLush]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

Hi all,

Good to see everyone up bright eyed and bushy tailed! Of course my Texas time may be off a tad. LoOp since you are up and cooking breakfast for us and knowledgeable about supplements have you ever heard of 'Anacervix?' It contains Vincamina and Piracetam. I remember Isolde always spoke about Piracetam to help with the somnolence of Bac. I have been taking this in the morning after I take my first dose and it really helps jump start me.
Any thoughts are appreciated.


LL:l

[RudyB]

Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

lady, i dunno, but anacervix sounds like it might be best for your female parts.