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    #31
    Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

    Ukblonde;1186033 wrote: Cassander

    Back towards the end of last year, when I was struggling and looking at baclofen that was when one or two posters were insisting it works absolutely. I won't name names but that was what was being said back then, and the reason I said "OK I'll give it a go if that it so".

    The posts have now shifted to "It works for a lot of people".

    No I won't be posting on any more baclofen threads, I decided that
    before you made your post above because it's quite clear it is not welcome. My experience was a one off as I've been told time and time again, and it will only put others off. I initially posted hoping I'd help anyone who had been or was in the same situation as I had, where they might feel alone or under pressure - but it's obvious that isn't required and I don't want to have to justify my posts which is why I said "I'd moved on", I have made a concious decision not to interfere or comment on baclofen, or share my experience of those few months any more. Having to post this is actually breaking my promise to myself not to get involved any more, and just reminding me how fed up I am of this 'justification of what can and cannot be posted'. It's a public forum which belongs to RJ, I can post whatever I like as long as I'm not offending or being abusive.


    I'd actually just got through a difficult day, but with a great ending to log in here hoping for inspiration and support. To find people making assumptions again.

    I had already moved on and forgotten it.
    UK -- a few last points on this before we all move on and forget:

    1 "One or two posters" last year was not then and is not now "everyone". Right? And nobody on this board then or now knows anything for absolutely sure. Right? So I don't think it was or is true that "everyone" says baclofen works for everyone and I think you can safely let this concern drop. Forever.

    2 I wouldn't say "not welcome". I would simply and respectfully say, "not helpful". Please post opinion when you are fairly certain you are adding something new and helpful, but please remember the overwhelming majority of posters on the bac board have not had quite the same difficulties with bac that you have had and don't believe your issues are necessarily generally attributable to bac. (In this regard, I would remind all of us proponents of bac, including we "messiahs", that nothing is absolutely known yet about this drug and some will have side effects that are impossible to get past.)

    3 You end by saying that you came back today "to find people making assumptions again".
    Nope. Its not people. Its just me trying to get to the bottom of this one so that you and we can all move forward beginning right now with a better understanding of what's been going on here and how we can improve. I'm just trying to help you understand why your contributions don't resonate better. Hopefully, you will wake up tomorrow feeling more welcome than ever.

    So, you're right -- lets move on and hope that we can all be as helpful as possible in getting the word about nal and bac out there and helping people recover from this terrible disease as best we can.

    Cass
    With profound appreciation to Dr Olivier Ameisen for his brilliant insight and courageous determination

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      #32
      Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

      Ok

      Just to spell things out again.

      When I said people were saying it worked, not doubt about it etc etc I was referring to that period towards the end of last year AND NOT NOW.

      In future I'll make sure I spell absolutely everything out because it was assumed I meant right now.

      I didn't which is why I posted the above explaination.

      So to be clear I was referring to the end of last year.

      I don't even know why I'm doing this because as above I had put this matter completely to bed.

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        #33
        Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

        What makes me so sad about this thread is that I truly meant well.

        I didn't want it to be a "them against us" kind of thread. I know I misstepped on the "messiah" thing and I know the title is not what it should say.

        This thread should have been titled "If you can't take Baclofen there are other options.." or some such.

        I meant this thread as a call to those who try Baclofen and can't use it for whatever reason, not to give up.

        I am ecstatic that Baclofen works for so many. I know the pain and anguish this addiction causes.

        I also know how demoralizing it is to try something with so much promise and it isn't possible to use it. Threw me into a tailspin.

        I was just trying to send a message to keep on trying.

        Should I just delete the thread?

        Love,
        Cindi
        AF April 9, 2016

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          #34
          Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

          no, cindi, this is a very good thread! please don't delete. i think the dialogue between uk and cassander is a good, healthy one, albeit probably painful in some ways. uk is an important member here, and it would be a great loss to lose her. cassander made good points very diplomatically, and uk gracefully took the opportunity to clarify herself. i, for one, now better understand where uk is coming from, and i am very glad for it. i hope you, uk, feel somewhat more understood.

          i don't interpret the conversation here as yet another 'us vs them' one. and i feel for you about your thread title; it is a cryin' shame that we can't edit those! how many people start a thread in the depths of despair and title it in a way that does not AT ALL match their reality many, many posts later?! but, alas.

          keep the thread going. let's keep the conversation mutually supportive. i'm quite sure we'd all like that very much.

          rudy b

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            #35
            Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

            WHAT HAPPENED TO UK BLONDE?????!!

            Her posts are now appearing as MWO GUEST !?????
            ------------------------------------------------------------
            "Alexander The Next" 's Experimental Combo Journey with TSM (Naltrexon) and Baclofen -- Progress Diary
            https://www.mywayout.org/community/f20/alexander-next-s-experimental-combo-journey-tsm-naltrexon-baclofen-49307.html

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              #36
              Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

              She left the site.

              I had been trying to defend her with this post but it was a mispost. I often open mouth and insert foot.

              I miss her. She is a true fighter and found her way. I am happy for her.

              Cindi
              AF April 9, 2016

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                #37
                Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

                Cinders;1186439 wrote: What makes me so sad about this thread is that I truly meant well.

                I didn't want it to be a "them against us" kind of thread. I know I misstepped on the "messiah" thing and I know the title is not what it should say.

                This thread should have been titled "If you can't take Baclofen there are other options.." or some such.

                I meant this thread as a call to those who try Baclofen and can't use it for whatever reason, not to give up.

                I am ecstatic that Baclofen works for so many. I know the pain and anguish this addiction causes.

                I also know how demoralizing it is to try something with so much promise and it isn't possible to use it. Threw me into a tailspin.

                I was just trying to send a message to keep on trying.

                Should I just delete the thread?

                Love,
                Cindi
                I agree with Cinders.

                This is exactly how I felt...
                "I also know how demoralizing it is to try something with so much promise and it isn't possible to use it. Threw me into a tailspin."
                It starts to feel like being on the outside looking in and trying so hard for it to work for you.

                I had all the same story as UKBlonde with limited benefits until a near 911 situation pulled me out, the SEs got out of contol -- and its a shame that some newbie discoverer who just joined in June comes on here and starts telling off other members for simply saying there are other options...
                btw its all been done before sister. Its why I'm rarely on here anymore these days.
                ------------------------------------------------------------
                "Alexander The Next" 's Experimental Combo Journey with TSM (Naltrexon) and Baclofen -- Progress Diary
                https://www.mywayout.org/community/f20/alexander-next-s-experimental-combo-journey-tsm-naltrexon-baclofen-49307.html

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                  #38
                  Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

                  Cindi, thank you for this thread.
                  Hugs to everyone. I hope everyone finds their way out.

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                    #39
                    Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

                    Lo0p, I've been trying to figure out what is in that pan of goodness. Looks like eggs and maybe bacon, but do you eat bacon? And I'm sure you have some veggies in there like onions and peppers. You probably don't eat broccoli for breakfast, amirite?
                    Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
                    George Santayana

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                      #40
                      Baclofen is not everyone's panacea

                      Whoever comes closest to guessing gets 100 Pete Points. Trust me, you want Pete Points!
                      I don't want any shenanigans, lest some rapscallion try to split their Pete Points with Lo0p.
                      The game is on!
                      Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
                      George Santayana

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