People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

[Bminor]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Ne/Neva Eva;1215701 wrote: What about this?






It's not so much debate. And it has a lot to do with withdrawing cold turkey. Not such a good idea.

Glad you're doing well! And, um, I haven't forgotten!

LOL! I haven't had MD 20-20 since College. Wow, that brings back some memories!

Regarding that other thing Ne, I think what I will do is wait until I am completely off of Baclofen and see what happens. But to answer one of the questions you posed, I don't think it does anything for anxiety for me personally.

[DrunkAndTiredInFLA]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Bminor, a few months ago, I did a research project for school. Thankfully, the professor let us pick. =) The more you dig to find out about alcoholism being a chemical imbalance the more you will find that it is true. What I could not find, however, was when the chemical imbalance began. Are we born with this? I couldn't find any research on this. However, there is some research to suggest that at some point your brain develops it. If this is the case and your brain develops a chemical imbalance, who is to say that baclofen doesn't undo that chemical imbalance. Once the chemical imbalance is undone, who is to say that you will forever need to be on baclofen. Mind you, I don't think that once you have hit the switch that you should say bye bye baclofen. Just as it took time to imbalance your brain, it's going to take time to officially re-balance your brain. =)

[DrunkAndTiredInFLA]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Here is the research that I found. It's actually out of a book of some sort. If you have the time, it's 23 pages, but it's a great read. =)

Neuropsychopharmacology - Neurocircuitry of Addiction

[Bminor]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Thanks Drunk and Tired. What you say makes a lot of sense. I really appreciate you digging that up and I'll give it a read. I really do think Baclofen helped me in some way and I'm not out to prove that it didn't so I hope nobody thinks that's what I'm trying to do. I guess I just have questions about HOW MUCH it really did for me if that makes any sense?? I guess in the end it really doesn't matter. Truth is, if it weren't for the one side effect that the drug gives me, I wouldn't even be messing around with trying to get off of it.

Anyway, yesterday was another day of 50mg with no new side effects present so I'm thinking I may drop another 10mg starting tomorrow. It was actually really cool because last night my younger brother was in town and we went out to several bars. At one point I was sitting at a bar with him (he was drinking a beer) and I was about 3 feet away from a row of UV vodka bottles...(Vodka used to be my go to sauce) I thought to myself, "would that taste good? do you want that?" And I was easily able to just tell myself "no man, it really wouldn't taste very good and it wouldn't move you forward at all in any way to order a drink" "you can sit here and drink diet coke and enjoy spending time with your bro and feel RELIEVED that you don't need that shit" That mental dialogue was something very cool for me and I think I'll remember it for awhile... it almost relaxed me and made me just enjoy being out and about watching other people dance and have a good time and just enjoy trying to work on being myself instead of being under the influence. Maybe that sounds dumb or maybe I just don't articulate things very well but it was a good experience for me.

[DrunkAndTiredInFLA]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Bminor;1216159 wrote: Anyway, yesterday was another day of 50mg with no new side effects present so I'm thinking I may drop another 10mg starting tomorrow. It was actually really cool because last night my younger brother was in town and we went out to several bars. At one point I was sitting at a bar with him (he was drinking a beer) and I was about 3 feet away from a row of UV vodka bottles...(Vodka used to be my go to sauce) I thought to myself, "would that taste good? do you want that?" And I was easily able to just tell myself "no man, it really wouldn't taste very good and it wouldn't move you forward at all in any way to order a drink" "you can sit here and drink diet coke and enjoy spending time with your bro and feel RELIEVED that you don't need that shit" That mental dialogue was something very cool for me and I think I'll remember it for awhile... it almost relaxed me and made me just enjoy being out and about watching other people dance and have a good time and just enjoy trying to work on being myself instead of being under the influence. Maybe that sounds dumb or maybe I just don't articulate things very well but it was a good experience for me.

I don't think it's dumb. I have noticed myself saying the same things to myself. lol I am glad to hear that someone else says those things to themselves. =)

[DrunkAndTiredInFLA]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Bminor;1216159 wrote: Thanks Drunk and Tired. What you say makes a lot of sense. I really appreciate you digging that up and I'll give it a read. I really do think Baclofen helped me in some way and I'm not out to prove that it didn't so I hope nobody thinks that's what I'm trying to do. I guess I just have questions about HOW MUCH it really did for me if that makes any sense?? I guess in the end it really doesn't matter. Truth is, if it weren't for the one side effect that the drug gives me, I wouldn't even be messing around with trying to get off of it.

Funny that you say dig it up. I really did go to the paper recycle bin and dig it out. lol I should have kept it for myself anyway. Lesson learned. Thankfully, digging in the paper only trash wasn't all that bad. lol

[DrunkAndTiredInFLA]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Bminor, I wish that they would do more research on whether or not it's something that we are born with or something that we develop. For the moment, they only look at the brains of people who are already addicted. This is helpful, but it doesn't help people like me who wonder if it's something I have always had or something that was developed over time.

[Bminor]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Drunk and tired... I really would love to have that answered ss well. I lean strongly towards it being something we develop over time. I just feel like it has more to do with circumstances and our reasons for drinking, and habits and patterns.

[DrunkAndTiredInFLA]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Bminor;1216300 wrote: Drunk and tired... I really would love to have that answered ss well. I lean strongly towards it being something we develop over time. I just feel like it has more to do with circumstances and our reasons for drinking, and habits and patterns.

I would like to think that they will have some answers within the next 10-20 years. It probably won't do us any good by then, but something is always better than nothing. =)

[DrunkAndTiredInFLA]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Bminor;1216300 wrote: Drunk and tired... I really would love to have that answered ss well. I lean strongly towards it being something we develop over time. I just feel like it has more to do with circumstances and our reasons for drinking, and habits and patterns.

And yes, I believe that we start drinking for one reason or another, but I don't believe that this is where the imbalance started. Perhaps for some people, it started right away. However, for others, it was probably a slow process. Hence, the reason why it's a slow process of getting and staying sober. It would be stupid of anyone to get to indifference and then decide to get off of baclofen right away. I am sure that it may work for a select few, but, in my opinion, it's not worth the risk. I plan to stay on baclofen for a year. Depending on if I have to increase my dosage again or not. Right now, I feel safe but that could all change. I will see where this journey takes me. But I don't plan to be on baclofen for the rest of my life.

[redhead77]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

I won't reference the past garbage. I'll just say congratulations D&T. Good for you! The other side is wonderful.

[DrunkAndTiredInFLA]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

redhead77;1216325 wrote: I won't reference the past garbage. I'll just say congratulations D&T. Good for you! The other side is wonderful.

Thank you Red! =) It's still all new to me, and I don't know quite what to think about it. This is why I started my "Indifference, I think..." thread.

[DrunkAndTiredInFLA]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Where did Red's post go?

[redhead77]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

I put it in it's proper place.

Edit Again: Sorry, I'm not home. I'm posting from my phone.

[redhead77]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

I think the first post was better. :H