People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

[DrunkAndTiredInFLA]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Red, I don't see anything but the last two posts. lol I don't know where the "right place" is. lol

[Ne/Neva Eva]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Bminor;1216017 wrote: LOL! I haven't had MD 20-20 since College. Wow, that brings back some memories!

Regarding that other thing Ne, I think what I will do is wait until I am completely off of Baclofen and see what happens. But to answer one of the questions you posed, I don't think it does anything for anxiety for me personally.
I've never had the pleasure of the stuff, but picked up a couple of empty bottles of it in the park down the street that morning on my dog walk. Made me think of you. I'm kidding, of course.
It makes sense to wait. But not tooooo long. Then you'll just forget!
Interesting about the anxiety.

DrunkAndTiredInFLA;1216024 wrote: Bminor, a few months ago, I did a research project for school. Thankfully, the professor let us pick. =) The more you dig to find out about alcoholism being a chemical imbalance the more you will find that it is true.
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Just as it took time to imbalance your brain, it's going to take time to officially re-balance your brain. =)

The papers that have a topic assigned are annoying. I'd much rather write and research about booze! :H And the last part makes an awful lot of sense to me, too.

Bminor;1216159 wrote: It was actually really cool because last night my younger brother was in town and we went out to several bars. At one point I was sitting at a bar with him (he was drinking a beer) and I was about 3 feet away from a row of UV vodka bottles...(Vodka used to be my go to sauce) I thought to myself, "would that taste good? do you want that?" And I was easily able to just tell myself "no man, it really wouldn't taste very good and it wouldn't move you forward at all in any way to order a drink" "you can sit here and drink diet coke and enjoy spending time with your bro and feel RELIEVED that you don't need that shit" That mental dialogue was something very cool for me and I think I'll remember it for awhile... it almost relaxed me and made me just enjoy being out and about watching other people dance and have a good time and just enjoy trying to work on being myself instead of being under the influence.

Nice! both the experience and the retelling. Bravo, B. And thanks.

[Bminor]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Day one @ 40mg (down from 50) went fine yesterday. No side effects, no issues sleeping. Will stay at this dose for at least 4 days, maybe a week.

[Bminor]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

I just realized that I joined this board 3 years ago this month and only have 96 posts... wow, I'm lame.

[Bminor]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

This is my 4th day at 40mg, (down from a maint. dose of 200mg for nearly a year) well I actually have another dose of 10mg to take before bed but anyway, things have been going fine. I've had no noticeable side effects and I think at this point I have the whole alcohol craving thing mentally beat. Not sure when I will go down to 30 per day, perhaps after the weekend. I just thought I would keep this thread going until I'm completely off Baclofen.

B.

[Bminor]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Yesterday was day one at 30mg. No noticeable sides. I'll probably hang here for 4 or 5 days and then go down again. The problem I will run into now is that I am already splitting 20mg pills in half to get 10 mg. I am going to need to halve them again to get them to 5mg... this is going to be a bitch lol. I wish I could get my hands on some 10mg pills.

[bleep]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

I don't think I'd bother, to be honest. Just try and reduce to 20 and see where you go. From what I've read, baclofen withdrawal doesn't hit you like a brick, you start feeling odd and it goes from there. If that happens, you'll know that you've gone down too quickly, so just take more.

I'd apply the same approach to stopping completely as well, but that's just me.

[Bminor]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

bleep;1220896 wrote: I don't think I'd bother, to be honest. Just try and reduce to 20 and see where you go. From what I've read, baclofen withdrawal doesn't hit you like a brick, you start feeling odd and it goes from there. If that happens, you'll know that you've gone down too quickly, so just take more.

I'd apply the same approach to stopping completely as well, but that's just me.

bleep,

Do you mean just taking 20mg once per day instead of splitting the dosage? Or perhaps just 10mg twice per day?

I may try that.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Hey, B.
I can't speak to the suggestion, since you're the guinea pig. It makes sense though. I do wish that someone, anyone, just once, titrated up/down according to the grand "plan". But that's got nothing to do with you. I wonder what the muscle spasm patients do?

I am going through the whole, "I just don't want to take any more damn pills" thing. I think we all go through that occasionally, and I'm sure that this will change tomorrow, but I'm still eager to see how you get on. Thanks for continuing to do it.

[SlipperyPete]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

I think mailing pills would be inconspicuous enough, right? They're not too bulky. I might know someone who could do that...

The muscle spasm people have to taper craaaaazy slow, or else they'll get spasms.

[Bruunhilde]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Bminor;1216159 wrote:

Anyway, yesterday was another day of 50mg with no new side effects present so I'm thinking I may drop another 10mg starting tomorrow. It was actually really cool because last night my younger brother was in town and we went out to several bars. At one point I was sitting at a bar with him (he was drinking a beer) and I was about 3 feet away from a row of UV vodka bottles...(Vodka used to be my go to sauce) I thought to myself, "would that taste good? do you want that?" And I was easily able to just tell myself "no man, it really wouldn't taste very good and it wouldn't move you forward at all in any way to order a drink" "you can sit here and drink diet coke and enjoy spending time with your bro and feel RELIEVED that you don't need that shit" That mental dialogue was something very cool for me and I think I'll remember it for awhile... it almost relaxed me and made me just enjoy being out and about watching other people dance and have a good time and just enjoy trying to work on being myself instead of being under the influence. Maybe that sounds dumb or maybe I just don't articulate things very well but it was a good experience for me.

Hiya B, that's the type of self talk that Jason Vale's book talks about. I've been using it and it seems to be helping and growing on me. I will see how it goes BUT have to give gabapentin (mood lift) and stomach problems alot of credit to getting me AF for the times I've been there.

Regarding the discussions about the chemical imbalances in the brain, don't the books address that already? You can be diagnosed as a type of alcoholic according to Joan Larson by your genetics and how you reacted to AL your first use. That's what all the supplementation is about, well, that and repair. For instance, I'm celtic, and apparently my ancestors ate alot of fish. Thus alot of fish oil helps me in many many ways, including depression and alcohol. Etc etc. Maybe those books (Seven Weeks to Sobriety, Depression Free Naturally, Mood Cure, Diet Cure, etc) don't qualify as research? I don't know, but it all makes alot of sense to me.

Keep posting B, I'm interested in your results. I'm tapering down on (low dose of 40-50mg) bac due to running out and its having little effect - in fact, I went AF yesterday and the only difference between yesterday and the prior week's days was gabapentin. And gabapentin hasn't helped me avoid alcohol in the past, so I'm not suggesting it did anything but help my mood, and perhaps the Jason Vale book words are swimming around in my mind too. I keep thinking, when I see people buy booze, I wonder if this person has a problem, or I know this one does, is this all for her? And, I don't need or want that crutch, I'm not an alcohol dependent person anymore, etc. You know what they say, say it enough and it will come true. That's my hope! Hopefully in a few weeks or months I won't look at this and delete it out of horror and embarrassment in a drunken moment. I don't want that in my life anymore. I want the freedom.

[Bminor]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Ok cool, glad people are still interested in this... I will keep going with the updates.

Ne- The whole "being sick of taking pills" was also a big deal for me and part of why I am doing this.

Bruun- The Jason Vale book is fantastic. I think I read it at a point in my transformation where it was just perfect timing... it sort of brought it all together for me mentally and helped clear up some of the stupid shit I would run through my mind on a daily basis. I feel less like an outcast for not drinking now, it's like I realize that the jokes not on me for not drinking... it's the other way around.

More than happy to be the test monkey,

B.

[Bminor]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

SlipperyPete;1221036 wrote: I think mailing pills would be inconspicuous enough, right? They're not too bulky. I might know someone who could do that...

The muscle spasm people have to taper craaaaazy slow, or else they'll get spasms.

:H I have good stock of the 20mg pills still and not that far to go on my taper. I'll make it work somehow. I think I have a pill splitter laying around somewhere... I still have boxes I haven't unpacked yet from my move in late August

Thank you for the offer though! I think that was an offer? :H

[SlipperyPete]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Bminor;1221085 wrote: Thank you for the offer though! I think that was an offer? :H

Of course it wasn't

[Ne/Neva Eva]

People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

Bminor;1221081 wrote:

Ne- The whole "being sick of taking pills" was also a big deal for me and part of why I am doing this.

Yeah, well, I wasn't sober when I started this journey. Never been sober in my adult life for 30 consecutive days until now, and I will damn sure be taking pills for many more days to come. But I get your point! :H

(See, I told you I'd change my mind. Didn't take but a minute of thought about where I was lo those very few months ago!!! Plus, as my husband points out with an annoying eye roll and shrug, it's my prerogative. )