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    People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

    Ne/Neva Eva;1229309 wrote: Definitely something to think about, B, in terms of managing your anxiety medicinally (including supps of course!)
    I gotta tell you that this statement really amuses me. I don't know if you'll recall, but I was (and still am in some ways) very reluctant to use any medicines or supplements or anything in pill form to manage my life. :H

    The experience I had with bac (it fixed whatever was broken) and the reading I've done since then has convinced me that this brain chemistry thing is a really fundamental starting point for whole-wellness. So now I pop the occasional pill! This is a complete turnaround from a woman who was reluctant to take anything but benadryl and ibuprofen prior to (and during) bac! Really. I didn't take aspirin when I was titrating up. Now I have a drawer full of supps and meds that I use as tools--occasionally and with an eye toward not depending on anything at all, ever. I even consider the multivitamin a bit of a copout. (But really, how much seaweed can a girl eat? I'll stick with the multi and gobs of fish oil and vit. D until I live in Greece on the water and my husband catches our dinner every night. Next life, maybe.) The bottom line, for me, is that I don't need anything (except for bac, ATM) to deal with life on life's terms. That's pretty damn cool. Like you, I do know that keeping myself well, balanced and focused is very important. I think an apt analogy is pain meds. If a person has chronic pain (neuralgia for instance) and takes pain meds early on, and regularly, the nerves have a chance to heal and then the pain goes away. If a person does not take the pain meds, early on and regularly, then the nerves may die and the person is stuck with chronic pain that will need to be treated for life. Makes sense to me that the brain, being part of that nervous system obviously, should be treated the same way. Right? And if there is one thing the research is consistent about, it's that it takes time for our brains to get right...

    anyway! So glad you're doing well, B, and that things are resolving themselves...(itself?) Keep us posted!

    (My husband has been at 140mg for a while, and his drinking--or rather his enjoyment of drinking--has picked up. He went back up to 160mg and may go up more if he still thinks of getting drunk as fun. It's anathema to me, just as it is for you. ugh. I'm so glad I don't ever have to be drunk again! Aren't you? woop!)

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      People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

      totally sober

      Hey ne, was interested to hear about Ed. My ex partner (as you know) was not really interested in getting sober (still isn't I have heard). My honest opinion , and I have read heaps, is the partnership which starts with lots of alcohol involved, is so very hard to break, no matter what,

      Just sayin Ne, I have had to totally remove myself from ANYONE who still thinks that alcohol is OK, I have no invested interest anymore in people who view it as an option in their lives, meds or not. Priorities are the only thing that count now.

      You know, I know.

      Missy xxx

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        People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

        Hiya, Miss!!!

        Nah, Ed's alright. He went down (with baclofen) a little too far. No worries. He just needs to go back up again. And I think maybe true indifference takes a little time. In the meantime, he's ...Well, I don't want to gush, and this ain't my thread, but he's pretty fantastic. (Who knew???) I really, really like him. Even when he's being annoying.
        I also have a very vested interest in people who have only this option in their lives. We all need help and a hand... (I am NOT for a moment suggesting you should speak to, much less extend a hand to, your ex. Oh no. I'm so glad you got far from that situation and hope you feel good about that decision. It's not easy. I know. And I know that you know! :l)

        How are you?

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          People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

          As always Ne- Thanks for you're input and perspective. So many ways to think about so many things... What you typed makes sense. I don't beat myself up for using Benzo's... I just realize that daily use is not a long term solution as tolerance builds quickly and the effects essentially wear off for me. They are highly physically addictive too. (I don't get psychologically addicted to benzo's, they don't "get me off). But I do know that my body builds tolerance quickly. I'm trying to minimize daily use during the week, and then give myself a chance to use more if needed on weekends or during social settings. The difference really is night and day with me when it comes to being comfortable around other people.

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            People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

            Bumpity bump for those interested in seeing if tapering completely off can be done...

            I have been off of baclofen now for 11 full days. No return of any cravings, no urges to drink. Only significant time will tell the full truth, but for now I'm feeling very positive about the transition.

            Again, just a bump for those that were interested in the topic, and we all know how threads can get lost on this board. I neither recommend or discourage anyone from giving it a shot if you feel you are at a point where you can make it on your own. This is just my experience I am sharing.

            B.

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              People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

              Hey B,

              I guess I was way off base in my post to you. I just thought since you were thinking of tapering down on the benzos, you were confident that you could. When you said it was fairly easy for you to tell people you don't drink when you go out, I assumed things were going relatively well with the social anxiety. I think I missed some things in my reading. I'm grateful to the others who 'get it'.

              Anyway, good luck with it all.
              This Princess Saved Herself

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                People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

                Its the benzos not the baclofen
                Taper off both completely

                Take 250 mg of test, no soy milk and you'll be good to go. THey have estrogenmimickers in them. Also take anastrazole .25mg day to even lessen estrogen production,. That could be a cause too.Too much aromatase.
                Dont do it all at once.
                Try each therapy at a time

                Then if that doesnt work, when you get your health insurance, make an appointment with an endocrinologist just to make sure there isnt a zebra as a diagnosis instead of a horse

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                  People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

                  BillP you crack me up.

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                    People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

                    redhead77;1231233 wrote: Hey B,

                    I guess I was way off base in my post to you. I just thought since you were thinking of tapering down on the benzos, you were confident that you could. When you said it was fairly easy for you to tell people you don't drink when you go out, I assumed things were going relatively well with the social anxiety. I think I missed some things in my reading. I'm grateful to the others who 'get it'.

                    Anyway, good luck with it all.
                    Hey no worries, nothing off base. I've always been anxiety prone and Benzo's seem to help but I don't want it to be a long term solution. What I meant about easy telling people I don't drink, I just mean that it used to embarrass me to tell people that... like there was something wrong with me because I didn't drink. I know that's not true now lol. I still get social anxiety but it's 2 different issues I was talking about.

                    Anyway, yesterday marked two full weeks with no Baclofen. Still doing great on the no cravings, no drinking front.

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                      People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

                      Bump for anyone curious. Well over a month Baclofen free and I don't feel any different than I did while on Baclofen (with regards to alcohol craving, drinking etc.).

                      Just thought I'd give an update and also throw this out. My *unit* has still not fully recovered. I'm still noticing decreased sensitivity and erection trouble at times. I know my body and know that this was caused by baclofen. Why after a month and a half of stopping, am I still seeing side effects? What did baclofen change to keep me fucked up? Anybody?

                      I KNOW my body and you can ask **Lo0p if you want, because he's seen pictures. I have never in my life experienced libido/erection/sensitivity issues until this substance was introduced.

                      ** Lo0p has not seen pictures of my penis. :H

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                        People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

                        Oh, and for f*cks sake why is the search function so utterly useless on this board???/

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                          People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

                          B,

                          Did you just delete on another thread? I was going to respond and you were gone!

                          LL
                          The hardest arithmetic to master is that which enables us to count our blessings.

                          *Don't look where you fall, look why you slipped*

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                            People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

                            B, a short term solution would be Ciallis. I hear it can be great fun once in a while even when things are OK.
                            I too am noticing some of the things you mention and I am using Bac. Nothing too bad though and I'm not sure this is the right place to discuss matters of the penis.
                            Perhaps we should start a new thread title "The effects of Bac on sexual prowess in males" or similar.:H
                            Diggin' being alive

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                              People who have tapered back to a low dosage?

                              Off Bac

                              I haven't posted for a long time - just checking in every once in a while. But my experience coming off Baclofen was as follows:

                              Pre Baclofen alcohol consumption about 150 UK units per week (2 bottles of wine per night) but never much more than that.
                              I never reached indifference, but immediately noticed reduced cravings. At about 240mg Bac I reduced Al to about 25 UK units p/w. Titrating down off Bac to 80mg maintenance for about a year - Al still at about 25 UK units p/w.
                              About Christmas I decided to come off Baclofen - and reduced by about 5mg every one or two days. Since then I have not increased Al and if anything have reduced to about 20 UK units p/w.

                              MWO and Baclofen were a life saver for me.

                              I hope this helps.

                              S

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                                LadyLush;1249336 wrote: B,

                                Did you just delete on another thread? I was going to respond and you were gone!

                                LL
                                Yes, I did delete. My apologies. Just a personal decision.

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