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    #16
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    ging, it has been great seeing you around the threads.

    hope you have a great night's sleep tonight. i have had that dizzy thing lately, too. fortunately not often and it never lasts longer than it takes me to lie down for a few minutes.

    and ain't that wild about the higher doses vs the lower ones?! you'd think low would be easy, high would be hard. but it ain't so.

    stick around and keep us posted.

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      #17
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      Thanks Rudy and Bruun. I have use-it-or-lose-it sick days accumulated so I decided to use a few and keep going. I didn't even have to lie! I told my sup that I've been nauseous and feeling woozy.

      I think the baclofen builds up throughout the day and that's why the nights are hard. It makes me cranky that I can't know it advance what it's going to be like. I hate feeling blindsided by the side effects.

      Anyway, I have a few more days to sort it out.
      Ginger



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        #18
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        I've noticed the same thing Ginger. I wake up all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. Then as my bac doses increase through the day, I start to feel any number of things. Sometimes it's a good feeling; sometimes it's not. Just keep on, I have my fingers crossed for you.
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          #19
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          VavaVOOM Red, nice avi.

          Keep it up you guys.

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            #20
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            I'm right there with you, GD. I've been getting some of the dizziness, as well as the light flashes behind my eyelids when I'm going to sleep.
            And after being amazed at not having tinnitus at all while going higher this time, it came back with a vengeance last night and made up for lost time. :H It's good that you have some sick days to use!
            Better Living Through Chemistry

            Switched at 180mgs of Baclofen on 1/31/11, and again on 10/8/11 at 200mgs.

            Could've been a swan on a glassy lake, could've been a gull in a clipper's wake. Could've been a ladybug on a windchime, but she was born a dragonfly.
            ~Clutch

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              #21
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              Thanks guys. It's nice to know that I'm not alone in the wackiness of it.

              My trip to the grocery store I thought took about 1/2 an hour. It turns out it was 2 hours. I'm having a pretty decent day. I hope everyone else is too.
              Ginger



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                #22
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                ohh, you are not alone! no way, no how! the se's you describe are VERY familiar, i've had them all and sometimes still do. i just went through a whole bunch of this kinda stuff and its attendant questions. i figured out that i was taking too much, too late. as a result the bac wasn't doing its job on the cravings, either. phew! bac goes down more evenly throughout the day and, voila! night time is more smooth, sleep more restful, and i'm not itchy for ale.

                i can't remember what your dosing scehdule is, but if i remember correctly, you ramped up very high, very fast. try to stay steady, and take 20 mg at a time, evenly and without piling it up late in the day, and note what happens. i may be being redundant to what others have said, but it bears repeating.

                let us know how you're doing tomorrow. good you took the day (today?) off.

                xo rudy

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                  #23
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                  Well, last night was fun. As I said earlier, I reduced my dose because being physically ill just does not work for me. Last night when I was just going to sleep, I had tactile (?) hallucinations that were a kick. It felt like I was racing through air, my body was buzzy. It was a little like being on a roller coaster that could move in any direction. I could somewhat control direction, go forward, go backward, go up. There was no visual or audio to go with the ride. Just the physical sensations were great fun. I was fully awake and aware that it was a side effect. I didn?t want to go to sleep because I didn?t want it to be over.

                  Then I felt guilty for enjoying a chemically induced, mind altering experience. :teeter:

                  The next thing I knew, I was waking up in the early morning.

                  My alcohol consumption yesterday was close to nil. I tried a beer two different times and both times they got too warm to drink. The breathing prob came back but not as bad and nothing I can?t deal with. I would like to say that I will park it here, but I?m not sure where here is (or was yesterday). Time keeps slipping away when I run errands and I?m not carrying the baclofen with me. Then I had to drive over to a friend?s house and round up her escaped dog and brought it home with me. I know that I missed a dose both those times. I tried using a pen and just making ticks for each pill taken but most of the time would forget to make the tick and sometimes wasn?t sure if I remembered to take the pill.

                  I?m going to try to keep better track today.

                  A lurker to meds wrote to me in PM. She said she has ?a package? of baclofen but has received conflicting info about dosing. She wanted to know what I did. I could not be very helpful since I have not kept records but told her that I did it too fast anyway. :new: I encouraged her to ask here. I think she might be shy and a little reluctant to post in this colorful and sometimes mercurial forum.

                  Could someone with more knowledge address her question about dosing? :thanks:
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                    #24
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                    Hi Ginger,

                    Your titration sounds similar to mine, in speed and erraticness. Keeping track of the pills is difficult when you're doing like that, if you can come up with some form of a system it will help you immeasurably. Mark out times and doses on a sheet of paper, and actually put the pills on the paper first thing in the morning, or something like that. That way you can tell at a glance whether you are on track or not for the day. I never did it, but something like that would have helped no end. I don't know how practical that would be though for your situation?

                    Take some heart from the fact that you handle baclofen well. It means you should be able to get through this quickly, and with minimal bother! Despite what you are feeling, these are some of the 'better' SE's, and you have the right attitude.

                    A safe and simple titration would be 3x5mg's for 3 or four days, then add 20mg's every few days.

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                      #25
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                      I could do that, Bleep. Making ticks on a scrap of paper seems too much to ask of me later in the day! It's a good idea to do that in the morning when I'm still on top of it.

                      Thanks too for saying that I handle it well. Even when it's very bad, it's short lived. Except for the not sleeping part but I'm doing better now.

                      I did pass on your advice to the person who asked me about it. I really hope she posts here. Since there are two methods by doctors, Levin and Ameisen, I was wondering if those could be added to the "basics of baclofen" thread, along with the variations. That's not what the thread is named but I can't remember what it is called. The one on NE's signature line. Come to think of it, I'm going to put that link on my sig line too.
                      Ginger



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                        #26
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                        Ginger, do you mind my asking, are you young? Just curious.

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                          #27
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                          I just realized that the "Consolidated Baclofen" thread links to a thread that's all about doses. So, never mind that.
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                            #28
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                            I am 49. I plan to have a complete meltdown on my next birthday.

                            I put my basic info in my profile.
                            Ginger



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                              #29
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                              Ginger. I like you. You have made me smile, with teeth, at least twice today. Thank you.


                              A very belated welcome.

                              GingerDust;1191350 wrote:
                              Then I felt guilty for enjoying a chemically induced, mind altering experience. :teeter:

                              The next thing I knew, I was waking up in the early morning.

                              My alcohol consumption yesterday was close to nil. I tried a beer two different times and both times they got too warm to drink.
                              and hmmmm. Felt guilty, didn't want to sleep ...and then woke up early in the morning. I can remember those days. Completely unrelated to bac, of course.

                              And congrats on the warm beer. I LOVE that. Don't you? Actually, I distinctly remember being rather annoyed about it after a while. At first it was like, "Woohooo!" Then it was, "Dammit! That was an expensive beer!" (I made it very hard for myself to quit drinking... When I stopped liking wine, I switched to beer. When I couldn't stand the cheap beer, I bought expensive beer. When that was gross, I started drinking reds, rather than my habitual whites. And those got increasingly expensive. i once even spent, like $25 on a bottle! :H)

                              And also on the planned meltdown. I've only been 29 for a couple of years less. It's lovely, 29. At any age.

                              Nice siggy! When I remember what Lo0p told me to do to make the thing say "Consolidated..." instead of the MWO gibberish, I'll let you know.

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                                #30
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                                Thanks, Ne.
                                "Dammit! That was an expensive beer!"
                                :H

                                I'm really look forward the savings. We could sure use a break like that. I had a few beers yesterday. Not enough to get drunk on but more than I wanted, so I'm going back to where I was. The nice thing about waking up early is that I can start taking it early.

                                :thanks:
                                Ginger



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