Me, myself and getting sober

[spacebebe01]

Me, myself and getting sober

Yesterday was a crap day for me, I sppent about half the day sleeping then most of the rest feeling shit about the fact that I couldnt seem to get myself to do anything else. I also bought and ate a big load of chocolate, I have been trying to cut out the cocoloate but so far have only managed 1 day without any then went mad yesterday, even carrying on eating the stuff when my head started hurting and I just took painkillers for it rather than stop eating the damn stuff. Since being AF I know my addiction has switched to chocolate, sugar, and over spending, I am in debt and instead of sorting it out I continue sticking my head in the sand. Lady, I cannot take the 5HTP you take as I take effexor and have been taking antidepressants for a lot of years, whether they do any good or not I do not know, I have been prescribed pretty much all of them and still suffer with clinical depression, I am pretty much stuck with them right now bacause there is no way I would risk coming off them. I have never read seven weeks and think I will order it, I think it is meant for newly sober peeps but am wondering if it may be of use to me now. I do take quite a few vits and supps but follow no set protocol with them, just kind of wing it myself.

[spacebebe01]

Me, myself and getting sober

I have just checked on Amazon for the seven weeks to sobriety book and notice that their is a seven week depression book by the same author, I am wondering if that might be more appropriate for me as I am not now struggling to get sober any more but am struggling with depression right now. Has anyione read/or heard anything about this, as Im also trying to stop my spending I dont want to go buying both books or starting two regimes at once.

[spacebebe01]

Me, myself and getting sober

*BIG NEWS ALERT* i JUST GOT A SHOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont know when I turned into such a minger but Ive seriously goot to snap out of it.

[MWOLady]

Me, myself and getting sober

Hi Space - happy sunny Sunday! I'm not sure what a minger is? Is it a person who doesn't wash? or is it a cheap person? If it's a person who does not wash yes you have got to snap out of it!!!!!!

I know that when I'm depressed I get like that - and my sister, and poor departed brother too - we all have depression and we all get/got like that - too down even to shower and get dressed. Don't be too hard on yourself. There are worse things!!!!!

If you are taking efexor and it's not really doing much for you maybe you are right to seek another kind of therapy. Try the Seven Weeks depression book. But as you know you need to talk to your doctor before you quit your anti-d. You could wean yourself off of you decide to use what's recommended in the Seven Weeks book - but be sensible!!! You can't just zip around from one thing to another. Isn't that what we use our Tool Box for? Get your TB together and stick to it.

Anyway glad you're still around and doing well. And good news on the shower!!

[Nutshell]

Me, myself and getting sober

spacebebe01;1240917 wrote: *BIG NEWS ALERT* i JUST GOT A SHOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont know when I turned into such a minger but Ive seriously goot to snap out of it.

Sorry, I wasn't following closely enough. You just had a shower installed, or you just had a shower? Either way, a nice shower is great.

[spacebebe01]

Me, myself and getting sober

I just had a shower and sorry I forget most of you may not know what Im talking about, a minger is someone who doesnt wash all too often. Im not considering coming off the effexor, Ive been on antid's too long to think about that just now, but I do need to get my toolbox sorted, in fact I wouldnt say I have a toolbox, I just leave my tools for recovery hanging around in a literal sense as well as a imagery sense. I do need to start getting more organised in my mind and home, but I have made a start on that as you know by using fly lady which Im finding very useful.

[spacebebe01]

Me, myself and getting sober

Another day of depression, I am going to have to list and check out everything I am taking and doing and try to come up with some sort of new plan specifically designed to treat my depression. This cannot go on much longer.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Me, myself and getting sober

:H to the shower. I got it, and I get it.

I think it's a really good idea to list and check out what you're taking! No more of this willy-nilly thing. This calls for direct and immediate action!!!

And on that note, and without further ado, I'm going to make a suggestion that you (and others) are going to think is because I think bac is the be-all and end-all. I don't. I'm not a pusher. I get it that some people need other options. But here goes anyway:
You could take some bac, Space. I feel pretty sure it might help, given your experience on it, before you got to the place where you couldn't function. (It was what? 5 weeks that you were on it? Six?) It's an effective antianxiety and therefore a pretty effective antidepressant, just in that you won't be inundated with those awful thoughts that circle around telling you how awful you are. (You're not. That's the disease talking and you should tell it to shut the f* up. Now. It's wrong.)
Forget about the switch, indifference, the rest. LDB works. We know that.

Just a suggestion, and the only time I'll make it. Take it how it's meant, okay? Friend to friend, just a suggestion, with no implied judgement either way. Okay?
:l
and hang in there. The beast lurks. But you can squash that bugger.
(Minger is now in my lexicon. Thanks!)

[Nutshell]

Me, myself and getting sober

I agree with this. I found that LDB, would make me generally calmer about things that would usually make me unhappy. It's worth a try if you haven't already.

[MWOLady]

Me, myself and getting sober

Space, I don't understand. If you are taking Effexor why are you still feeling depressed? Can you up your dose? Are you taking a walk every day, and listening to relaxation cd's? And eating right? As you say, you simply must put ALL your tools into play if you expect success in putting the sunshine back into your life. You are on the right road but you are not jumping over the hurdles!!! When you get to a hurdle you are sitting down and going back to sleep!!!!

Not putting you down, girl......just want to keep reminding you to move forward, one baby step at a time. Once you get to another small hurdle, jump over!!!! then you never have to jump over that particular one again - it's behind you.

I remember you saying you've been eating a lot of chocolate lately. Here's what I do. I break the chocolate into small pieces and put it into a baggie. Into the freezer it goes. Then when I want some I take it out one piece at a time. Then I'm not tempted to eat too much at a time. The dark kind is much more satisfying than the milk chocolate too so try that!! Have a great Space Day!!

[ATLThrash]

Me, myself and getting sober

Ne--I have been lurking for sometime on the meds forum but post from time to time on GD. I do not want to highjack Space's thread but I wanted to ask if I could pm you at some point? You are a very eloquent writer and I have been inspired by many of your posts. Just a few questions but not worth a whole thread I think. If you would rather me not I totally understand.

Space-- sorry to highjack. I love the word minger-- But am sorry you are in such pain with depression. The brain is so complex that solving issues with it has to be multifaceted many times. Good luck

[spacebebe01]

Me, myself and getting sober

Great ideas for me, I am sitting here laughing at the thought of me wandering along the road then sitting down in front of the hurdle and going to sleep,:H how do you know me so well Lady are you a spy? i get your point and no I havent been excersicing or eating well just talking and thinking and moaning about it a lot but today I took one of my dogs out for a walk tomorrow I will take the other one out, they are unruly and I need to train them hence the only taking one at a time which is strangley something I never thought of before, I have just been taking them together and being a nervous wreck when another dog comes along. Also Lady I have been taking antidepressants for 20+ years now, they dont work, but my doctor refuses to accept this so we just carry on doing the same routine .... start taking, wait a while, increase dose, wait a while, increase dose to max, wait a while all in all this will probably have taken around 6 months or more then he accepts that ones not working so decrease dose, down, down stop, start a new one, increase.........and on and on and on we go,

Ne, I have never thought of LDB, and yes I was ok on bac both times I tried it until I got to around the 40-50mg mark then just became wiped out all the time and falling asleep all over the place. As Im not drinking I dont need to take it looking for indifference either so I will consider the LDB, but what Im wondering is havent I read on here somewhere that bac can make depression worse? I will have to look into this more.

thanks Ne, Nut, Lady and Thrash, I was made up to come in then and read what you all have to say to me, you have brightened up my day and given me something to think about and also a bit of a kick up the arse which is definately something I need:l:l:l

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Me, myself and getting sober

Sure, ATL. Feel free.

Depression seems to be a factor, Space, when doses are changed or taken irregularly. It's one of the reasons (the main reason!) I'm very careful tapering down. I was honestly wondering if maybe that wasn't part of what you were dealing with a little bit.

And, um, space, if something ain't working, and you've tried it for a while, say 20 years or so...I'm pretty sure it just doesn't work for you. Just a guess.

[ik1966]

Me, myself and getting sober

thanks ,spacebebe i am going to take a shower too you gave me a good idea!!!!

:thanks:

[ik1966]

Me, myself and getting sober

done....