Me, myself and getting sober

[StuckinLA]

Me, myself and getting sober

Argh. "Either way" sounded weird... I mean, well what I meant was...

I have no idea what I meant. I'm just thinking about you is all. But don't post if you can't be arsed to post.

I'll just entertain myself on your thread for a while is all, until you stop me. Now there's a threat that might bring ya' back around! :H

Totally kidding. Love ya'.

[playland]

Me, myself and getting sober

Hi Space,
I'll be glad when you are feeling better, I am betting the wedding is totally getting you "arsed" and so I can understand and give you a little space to feel better.

So, I guess Stuck and I will have to entertain ourselves here until you get back, so for Space and Stuck, I'm finding the London English Language very interesting, like what does "arsed" mean, it's like, "i can't be bothered" but more emphatic, like, "I can't be F_ing bothered" right? You know a few years ago when I flew from New York to London then to Barcelona, I could not for the life of me understand anything that the stewards or pilots said in English, the "English or British Accent (what do I know) " was actually like a foreign language.

Space, if you are reading this, can you let me know if I will be able to talk with you when you come to Spain, or will you be speaking a foreign English language? even Sun sometimes speaks things that I don't understand, such as the word "lager?", is that beer? she lives in the United States, why doesn't she say beer?

Ok, back to Stuck, there is a guy called "RyRye" that you need to go check in with, he is posting kind of on the med thread, he just posted yesterday saying that he is having trouble and is Mad. So, he needs some encouragement, trouble with his girlfriend, me and kradle have responded to him, maybe you can go and talk with him also, sounds up your alley.

Now, I'm also curious about how Spain was your "best time ever". I don't want to know all the womanizing details, just the details that had an impact on your life.

ok, entertain away,
love,
play

[StuckinLA]

Me, myself and getting sober

Hi Space and Play.

I did check in with Rye, not quite sure how his thread made it to meds when it seemed like more GD women were responding... but hopefully I'll see any more of his posts.

The Brits are fun when it comes to the language. Well, I guess it's technically "theirs,'" considering it's named for them and all. Personally, I'm more a fan of the punctuation, like the inverted commas for 'quotation marks', and the way they always punctuate outside the 'quotation marks'. But "lager" comes from German, meaning "to store," from what I remember, and it has to do with aging the beer in casks longer than other beers. I think it's also a top fermented beer as opposed to bottom fermented, but I could be misremembering that entirely, and I don't remember the difference between the two regardless.

I do remember seeing Space define this elsewhere, though, and I guess the lagers she's talking about are cans, about a pint, and wildly popular in the UK. I Think they're maybe a tad stronger than American beers, so maybe 6 or 7% ABV... but I could be just making that up. But it would sort of be the equivalent of picking up a couple of tallboys here in the US. Not that that's what Space is doing, but all the younger guys probably put them in paper bags on their way to the football match. Yes? Feel free to correct me on any of this, Space. Or tell me to go F myself for sharing your business. But I do remember seeing this in some thread or another.

As for Spain, no, there was no womanizing... Though I was there with the Chicago friend, and that's become it's own long, drawn out issue.

What was so great about it was that 1) it was freaking Spain, 2) Pamplona for the Festival de San Fermin, 3) it was f-cking Pamplona and there's a Hemingway statue there, and it was the Festival de San Fermin.

It was a week long, continuous party. Wine skins slung over our shoulders, wearing all white and red sashes, ordering drinks in a bar and taking those drinks to the next bar when the mood struck us. Eating the most delicious tapas I've ever had, which were laid out free for the taking in every bar. Drinking from our wine skins if we didn't have a drink at hand, and all of it until 6, 7, 8 in the morning. Just everyone in the streets all night, every night.

And the social contract of acceptable behavior was amazing. If people saw you urinating in public, they would just shame you by throwing their drinks at you (this never happened to me, BTW, I always used restrooms). And everyone's wearing all white and drinking red wine, so it's pretty clear what happened if you are suddenly covered in wine stains.

Then, have I mentioned it was Pamplona and the Festival de San Fermin? We ate dinner at Caf? Iru?a, which is mentioned by name something like 50 times in The Sun Also Rises, where we sat at the tables outside in the Plaza del Castillo, drinking pitchers of sangria and smoking Cuban cigars as the sun set. Then we went out all goddamned night long, joined the birthday party of a young German woman when we met her and her group in a gay bar. Left there all as one large group, kept taking pictures of the lot of us trying to pose as a single party, and trying to communicate in broken English, German, French, and Italian. Then slept for barely a couple hours, and woke up at 6 the following morning.

Then I f-cking ran with the bulls. So yeah, Spain was really, really good.

Guess I'll go check on Rye again, then be back here. It was great talking to you, Play, and I'll be sure to ask you for some of your stories... unless there's any you'd like to volunteer while I'm away?

See you soon, Space and Play.

[spacebebe01]

Me, myself and getting sober

Im glad you asked questions, because it gives me something to talk about instead of myself, or probably as well as myself. Lager is beer and we get it in cans, around 3/4 pint or pint cans and its not that strong usually Stuck its about 4.5 or 5%. It is very popular here, but paper bags arent, we have plastic carrier bags, Ive never heard of a tallboy. We also have draught lager in pubs, along with bitter and mild in older pubs, mostly old men drink those tho. I hope we will be able to understand each other even tho we are speaking different languages haha.

I am having a totally crap time over this wedding and cant wait for it to be over, I hate these kinds of things to begin with and his mum's (lesbian couple) are both so hysterical and streessout merchants I knew it was going to go downhill before it happened but it was just ridiculous. The weekend was their hen and stag do's, my daughter went to Creamfields a dance music festival which was ok until it got rained off and the field got flooded so that got stopped but ok, a bit dissapointing but no biggie, her bf who I met in rehab and used to go to AA, there is a stopy here but to cut it short he insists that he doesnt want to drink and wants to be totally abstinent, as I find myself having to tell my family but then every now and again he runs off and gets pissed. Apperantly, he was pissed on Friday, then on Saturday he was going with his best man to get their suits and then they where going away for the weekend to Wales walking, well he was drunk most of the time and yesterday he had a fight with his best man who took him back to his mums and dosnt want any more to do with him, so now he hasnt got a best man, but also his mums are trying to get him to cancel the wedding because they cant take the stress and so there has been arguing since yesterday morning. I had to go and spend the day with my daughter until he got home around 7pm and then his mum came and there was more carry on, and she is still going on about it. I dont know why they are trying to get them to cancel the wedding in case he gets drunk on the day, because surely if he did cancel now he would feel even worse and be more likely to go and get pissed. Because they are all watching him and hes not supposed to drink he ends up getting in all kinds of situations when he drinks, he has been found passed out in the street, been on the train station roof, fallen out of a window trying to get out to go to the shop and broken his arm and damaged his back, decided one night to run away and ended up miles away lost and the list goes on. The ask me for answers because they all think Im AF but even if I was I still wouldnt have any answers would I. Ive also got their dog so he cant have an excuse to go out and then get drink, but then Ive told them that all this watching him and not wanting him out of their site is likely to do his head in and make him more anxious. This is supposed to be the happiest day of my daughters lifea dn right now she says she just cant wait to get it over with, she is dreading the whole thing, worrying about it all, about him and having to put up with the mad inlaws.

Anyway apart for all that Im ok, Im trying not to spent much time on my laptop as I do waste a bad amount of time, not much on here but just watching films and stuff, a few days ago I watched 5 films!!! and also my sons pc isnt working properly so I have been lending him this.

Thanks so much for coming on my thread and asking about me, it means a lot. x

[wuthrich8]

Me, myself and getting sober

Oh Dear, it does seem you are under a lot of stress! I hope its getting better for you. i have too much right now myself, but will be checking in too, to see how you are doing... much love ... and lots of hugs too! xxoo

[Bruunhilde]

Me, myself and getting sober

Holy cow, Space!

Do you want them to get married? I know this isn't the ideal time to call it off but if he's having a time now, might he end up being an absentee dad down the line? I know I'd have been a shit mom if I had kids, which is one reason I didn't. Drinking and temper together are a bad combo and I know a little kid doesn't deserve it. I'm sorry to ask this but hearing how he's acted in the past doesn't sound good. Your poor daughter, it sounds like the in-laws are nutzo. And she's to be stuck with them.

Hopefully it will go off without a hitch and surprise everyone. If they can keep the pressure cooker turned OFF, that would help as you say.

What day is the wedding, next weekend?

[playland]

Me, myself and getting sober

First Hi Space and Stuck more to Space Later

Dear Space and Stuck,
First a very short response to the both of you, Space I'm thinking that we should invite Stuck to join us for our get-together in Spain, I think he would be a perfect mate, what do you think? He probably can't join us anyway because of school but I think he would fit in nicely.

Stuck and Space, I have some fun stories about Spain myself, it seems to be the only place where youngish men, or any men for that matter, fall instantly in love with me and want to marry me as soon as they hear me speaking English, they mostly seem to be from exotic foreign countries and find me beautiful and the perfect "ticket to America", it is quite flattering, but unrealistic. Yes, I love the Spanish Culture too, life starts at Midnight after dinner at 10pm, especially if you don't need to get up for work the next day. So yes,Spain really is heavenly, but Stuck, please don't "torture the bulls" again if you expect to "run" with Me and Space, we are Animal Lovers, and Space, you better back me up on this one, for Reals.

Ok, bye for now, Space and Stuck, the next post is for Space and regarding her nightmare post.

Love, play:h

[playland]

Me, myself and getting sober

Totally To You Sweet Space

Dear Sweet Space,
All I can say is Oh My God, and your daughter expects you not to drink? And does she not know about her husband to be? And I guess the only other thing that I can say is that you will not be the "center of attention" once this marriage takes place, all the attention is going to be on this unfortunate couple, I really feel sad for your daughter, Space, have you talked to her about what she is getting into? Or will she talk to you about it? Is she in total denial about what is going on?

This seems like such a strange situation given the fact that your family goes hysterical about the thought of you having a beer if you want. Maybe there is something I am missing here?
Who cares if you have a drink with this situation going on?
Love,
Play:h

[wu1969]

Me, myself and getting sober

Space,
This seems like a very difficult situation indeed. We all have our own difficulties with trying to stop and or limit ourselves from drinking, and so perhaps our hearts naturally go out to one going through the same trials and tribulations. Of course you as a mother must have it coming at you from all sides right now, wanting your daughter to be happy, not knowing what the outcome of this might be (or perhaps knowing all too well but still hoping) then much of the wedding is already paid for, and to top it all off the other side of the family is a little bit Gaga to put it lightly. Any relation to the Lady? Sorry... I could'nt resist that one... hoping it made you laugh.. once again.... I am very visual.

I wish there was something that I could say that would be of comfort, or make things better. We are all here for you, and you know that. Come on over to the other thread and let people know whats going on with you as they have no idea, and are wondering whats going on with you, or may i suggest they drop in here? HUGS!!!!!
:hug:
Lots of Love Honey,
WU

[spacebebe01]

Me, myself and getting sober

Of course I worry about the future fore my daughter, I have talked to her about it and said that with her having me and her dad both with drink problems why is she marrying an alcoholic, she just said she didnt choose who to fall in love with and that apart from the drinking everything is great. But its not, he doesnt work and I dont think he will and I am even more worried about that than the drinking in lots of ways, also he refuses to try meds, once I gave him some Campral to try and he wouldnt take them because of the dihorreah (no clue how to spell that one), it was him who got the antabuse of his doc and gave them to me because he just told everyone he was taking them but then didnt. I cant get through to him and talk to him because he just starts lying and I cant be arsed listening to him. He doesnt drink that often, he just causes mayhem when he does but thats more to do with my daughters reaction and his mad mums and all their shouting.

The dresses are a mess, I have messed them up and cant do anything much to revive that situation, I know they should have been done months ago so Im still stressing over that. My mum has gone and taken her suit back to the shop because she said she didnt like it anymore so I have to go inot town with her today so she can get something else. WTF what else, oh yes I know, my money still hasnt come into the bank because I was overpaid tax credits when I was working last year. Oh well, only a few days left to go and it will all be done. The good thing is I dont have a hangover today, I didnt drink enough last night to get one, I dont know why I just didnt feel like it. so after my getting pissed last week and really honestly feeling like I was a mess and not getting anywhere I am back to being a bit ok again.

Thanks for all the replies, it was great to wake up to them this morning. Ohand Wu I know I should also be putting this on the other thread but I cant be arsed going tho it again.

xx

[playland]

Me, myself and getting sober

Time to Relax Space

Hi Sweet Space,

I think it is just time for you to RELAX and let what is meant to be, BE, it will all work out in the wash, and I know she is your daughter, but in the end you have to let her live her life and now if your family could just return the favor:H:H: let you live yours, everyone would be much better off:h.

Ok, please try to just stop stressing about the dresses, it will just be OK. And I do understand, how can you write stuff TWO Times, here and another thread? well, that is impossible, this thread is for you, the other is for the couches and stuff.

and now I must say, it is time for you to start thinking about our little holiday in Spain, get thru this wedding, let them have their day, they will work things out, then we will have our little holiday, and it will just be the first of many, you know, we will be able to meet up many times in Spain, remember I am there more than I am at home, for me it is work with all the problems with my daughters health and the baby's problems, and the little vacation that we can have will be the fun part while I am there. So, I would love to bring you maple syrup but I understand that you can't take it home, you will have to eat some while you are with me, we will make lots of pancakes:h, sorry boys that they will miss out, but it's our holiday:l

Ok Space, just relax, we can't control what our children do, all that we can do is to be there for them in the future, there for them if they need to talk, and I think the best thing that I have found is to try to stay out of their relationship and marriage, I have to try awfully hard at doing that when I am in Spain and staying at their house so much of the time, you know I want to tell them how to do things, but then I have to remember that they have their own life and it is not my place to try to fix things or tell them how to do things, I mostly just try to "KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT" I ONLY GET INTO TROUBLE WHEN I DON'T DO THAT.

Ok, love you and talk soon,
play

[redhead77]

Me, myself and getting sober

playland;1370115 wrote:
Ok Space, just relax, we can't control what our children do, all that we can do is to be there for them in the future, there for them if they need to talk,

Hi folks,

Thanks for this, Play. Perfectly said, and it sums it up. You've talked to her, and she still wants to go through with it, Bebe. She's a grown adult. You can only stress so much. She does know about him lying and everything else though, right? She knows everything about him that you do? I don't want you to waste your energy getting it through to me, but I do want you to waste it with your daughter. If there's things she doesn't know about him. You just mentioned he lies and I wonder if she realizes this?

Anyway, I hope that didn't make things worse. I don't want to do that. I would assume the wedding is next weekend? There's only a little time if she did want to change her mind. I'm hoping she's got all the info she needs to make an informed decision is all.

Love you, Bebe.

[StuckinLA]

Me, myself and getting sober

Hi Space, I've been really quiet here for a while, and everyone's saying stuff way better than I would here. But just want to jump in for a sec to... I don't know, to say I'm thinking about you.

[spacebebe01]

Me, myself and getting sober

I am glad to say I am feeling better about this whole thing now, in the few minutes time I spent wiht him alone yesterday I got on with him again and he stopped winding me up. Yes Red, she knows everything I know about him and they do love each other a lot, and try to look after each other, and I think thats is the biggest thing they can build from. Its their life and I have always tried to be supportive and not interfere. So it will all be ok. I hope.

I am so looking forward to Spain, this will be the first time ever that I will have had a break from my family and I dont care if it sounds bad but I cant wait beautiful Spain and no one telling me what to do, it will be perfect.

I am back taking my AD's again, it was a really stupid thing to try to stop them when I did so loosing all that anger I was feeling is definately a good thing.

Lots of love xx

[taw]

Me, myself and getting sober

Hey Space!

I just wanted to send you hugs and support. I have been following, and wanted you to know I was thinking of you! Glad you are back on your AD's...me too!!