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    #16
    My Bac journey has begun today.

    That's pretty cool, Woy. That whole craving thing is such a conundrum, isn't it? I torture myself wondering if I'm having a craving..."Wait! Is that a craving? hmmmmm." then I wait a few minutes and realize that nope, it's not.
    I'll give you an example: My sunday mornings used to involve brunch and Bloody Marys. I could actually drink before noon. That was a highlight. I could drink before noon in public. Which made it even better. And I was always dreadfully hungover, so the Bloody Mary felt good. (I shudder about what used to make me feel good.) So when you mentioned Sunday morning, what came to mind was a Bloody. (Not the brunch with friends, mind you. crazy.) And I thought, "yumm. That would be good." But it wouldn't. I would take a sip and not like it. But old thoughts are still there...

    Anyway. Sorry about the digression into Ne-land. I'm glad you got the kiddies off and are going to see another band. What'd you play? Have you stopped altogether? Lots of musicians around these parts...

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      #17
      My Bac journey has begun today.

      Ne I hear what you are saying about cravings. When I use your thinking of "Wait! Is that a craving? hmmmmm" it usually is not a craving at all- just me thinking about drinking which is what I had done for so many years. In fact, I find I have a lot of memories about things I used to do, both good and bad. Maybe because my mind is clearing up. I'm not sure.
      Anyway, the kids were not impressed with the band yesterday but I was, so we sat in a club, where I would normally do what one does in clubs and enjoyed coffees and pizza and the band were terrific.
      I've done up to 100mg today with a few noticeable se's such as a mild headache, a little blurred vision but nothing I can't handle. Will probably stay on this for another day or 2 before going up again.
      I must say I really enjoy the quality of sleep I'm getting atm.
      Diggin' being alive

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        #18
        My Bac journey has begun today.

        Nice thoughts, Woy. How old are your kids that you get to take them to a club?
        And, ugh, I hope the coffee in clubs is better down under than it is here!
        And btw, what is it with people that thrill from the excruciating pain of hot sauce? It ranks up there with football (both kinds) and a visit to the dentist. Well, actually, I keep thinking it sounds and looks like fun, the hot sauce and the football. But I try and find out that it really isn't. Sounds familiar... I did watch pigskin football yesterday with my husband, but I lost interest when he abruptly stopped rubbing my feet.

        Alright. So. Some unsolicited advice from yours truly:

        7 days in and you're taking 90mg? I can't exactly figure out the timeline, but I think that's close. That's an awful lot of bac, Woy.

        You are having some SEs. I had the headache and eye thing, too, at different points. The eye thing really messed me up for a while. They both go away. BUT, I think maybe the SEs can be a reflection of too much bac. Kinda like a hangover... A little (or big! ugh!) reminder that all is not as it should be. Sometimes you gotta just push through it, and sometimes making a change is an important step. But sometimes it might be a good idea to just sit tight. (I wouldn't know. I did that only in the beginning.)

        I've seen more people give up and flush the bac because everything was going fine, until it wasn't. "Listen to your body" was good advice I rarely heeded.

        Your life sounds fun!

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          #19
          My Bac journey has begun today.

          Compared to the terrible permanent hangover I always had, the se's are akin to a good strong espresso but I hear what you are saying and I'll slow things down for the next few days.
          The American Football was the on tv's at work yesterday morning and we find it a fascinating game even though it's a bit long and not much action seems to flow.
          Anyhow, another night of sleeping all the way through and time to head off to work now feeling a millon bucks.
          Diggin' being alive

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            #20
            My Bac journey has begun today.

            Still on 100mg today with the same minor se's with an incident.
            I'd forgotten to get some lunch today whilst at work so I went downstairs to the car park with the intention of driving a couple of minutes to the shops to get something healthy.
            Something must have caught my eye and I walked right into a steel girder which collected me 3/4" above my eyebrow. I was just a little under normal walking pace so it hurt and I had to go back upstairs to my desk to sit down and get the first aid person to bring ice packs and this helped keep the swelling down. I ended up with a mild concussion, which I've still got now 4 hours later, a stinging headache, still got that now too and lost a bit of blood. A few dizzy spells and spot in the eyes but I stayed at work as the go home option would involve a trip to the hospital or doctor's for in insurance reasons and no way was I going to sit in a hospital for 4 hours waiting for some clown to say "you'll be right mate, just get lots of rest and fluids"
            I put the accident down to being a little dopey from the Bac and also the girder being painted black and being in the shadow of the building.
            Diggin' being alive

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              #21
              My Bac journey has begun today.

              Nothing new to report today. No cravings at all and I don't even think about drinking.
              Still on 100mg. Still have a cracker of a headache from the accident yesterday so I'll stay at 100mg for a another couple of days.
              Diggin' being alive

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                #22
                My Bac journey has begun today.

                I'm glad all things remain the same, including and especially your booze-ambivalence.

                I'm sorry about the headache. Are you sure you shouldn't be getting some sort of official input? I don't know anything about concussions. Except that they can be serious.

                Keep on, and keep updating!

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                  #23
                  My Bac journey has begun today.

                  It's been a few days since an update as I've been working away from home.
                  Still on 100mg per day and the se's are almost gone. I'll give it a few days and think about going up. I'n not really sure I need to as I've still no desire to drink nor to be around anyone whom is.
                  A few other noticeable things- I cannot stand the smell of cigarette smoke. I'm an ex smoker and whilst I don't enjoy the smell, right now I find it hideous. Weight gain. I've put on about 5kg even though I am eating far healthier and getting more exercise.
                  Diggin' being alive

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                    #24
                    My Bac journey has begun today.

                    Hi Woy and Ne. i am newbie and have just stumbled across this thread. Right now I am on day 1 of AF. Today was hard work indeed. I was down in the dumps and disappointed at myself for letting myself spiral so much out of control, especially of late. Plus I think they day has been one long craving. Eating seems the only relief. Our drinking pattern sounds pretty similar Woy. Similar amount of units most week nights and more on Fri/Sat. I tried to pull it back a notch on Sunday but not always successfully. Wine and beers are my drink of choice too. I've just been looking into baclofen and it sounds like a good option for me. Your experiences with it seem extremely positive. I'm definitely going to give it a try. I suffer with anxiety at times, so perhaps it will help in that department too. Do you all also take supplements as well whilst on Baclofen? Is it easy to acquire a script for it in Aus in your opinion. Congratulations on your achievements!

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                      #25
                      My Bac journey has begun today.

                      Willow I didn't bother looking for doctors to try.
                      The day I stopped drinking, I called the drug and alcohol service looking some help with the withdrawals and was told to use harm minimisation as it was xmas time and no one was available for about 2 weeks. They said they would also have someone call me when they were returned and also someone to talk to me about treatment options. 2 weeks later the withdrawal team called offering me an appointment. I thanked them and explained it was a little bit late. Next day the counselling service called, asked me if I was still interested in their services to which I said I was. They conducted an initial assessment on the phone and advised that they would see me and have placed me on a waiting list. This would be close to 2 weeks ago now.
                      I first heard about Bac on the day I stopped and ordered it that day. I though I had nothing to lose and everything to gain by giving it a try. I try not to sound like a disciple but this stuff just works. It's not a silver bullet but with some mindfulness, exercise and diet changes it has been a revelation for me.
                      Point is, if you are ready to try it, does it really matter where it comes from? I think not, and I recall someone here stating Bac is not a prohibited import in Oz. Mine was not opened nor inspected by customs.
                      Diggin' being alive

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                        #26
                        My Bac journey has begun today.

                        Quick update, up to 120mg today with no rhyme nor reason. I just thought it was a good idea. Funny thing is, the somnolence I have been experiencing about 2pm is not there today. Go figure. Sleeping at night has been odd but refreshing enough. When drinking I would go to bet about 9.30-10pm and now that's 11.30-12. I sleep and avg of 5hours and wake feeling pretty good. No dreams though.
                        No real craving but some thoughts about drinking but when I examine these thoughts they go away pretty quickly.
                        Diggin' being alive

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                          #27
                          My Bac journey has begun today.

                          Well done on the AF front wow, its great things are going well for you (except to the girder accident, owch!) I hope your head is ok now. I cant imagine how you manage on 5 hours sleep at night, last night I had 7 hours late night watching tv and reading in bed and I regreted it this morning. Usually get around 8 more at weekends.

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                            #28
                            My Bac journey has begun today.

                            Still on 120mg with a few se's. Facial pimples, lethargy, very fitful sleeping patterns with some very strange and vivid dreams and the weight gain is still there.
                            A few thoughts about drinking yesterday and this morning but yesterday was the first day off from work in a fortnight and I've also get the next 3 days off. I'm going to take the kids out and about as they go back to school next week.
                            Diggin' being alive

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