Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

[FixMySelf]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

Oh, In my case it was more like, if I hadn't taken baclo for about 12 hours I was gong to feel very anxious.
Serious baclofen wd I assume are seizures and delerium. But the hypertension and strong anxiety/depression I felt was unbearable. Clonazepam killed hypertension, muscle rigidity and anxiety. Unfortunately it makes me lethargic and very mildly depressed.. but better than the other stuff. It has been 3 days now since last baclofen dose of 25mg although 50mg was taken 6 hours prior to that.

For me, phenibut withdrawal (from largeish doses) always started around 30-32 hour mark. The drug itself seems to last longer than baclofen, it has a stated hafllife similar to baclofen. So from short term use I don't see how it can take 96 hours for wd to present itself in my case. Although I do believe and hope it shouldn't take longer than ~110 hours

[FixMySelf]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

Well I have had check-ups before and everything has been fine.. I'm in my 20s and I have never been an alcoholic. When I say protruding abdomen it might sound worse than it is. I think it's the same reason I never really drank, my liver and kidneys just do not handle alcohol well. I have visible abs (6pack or whateveer), but you could tell it was all bloated up cause it looked like I'd been doing 10000 crunches. so thats what I meant with protruding.

Anyway's im on day 5.5, I've slept but waking up 2-3 times a night.. waking up irritated. Been numbed down by the clonazepam into terrible boredom but I haven't felt any other baclo WD symptoms. I doubt I'd have slept much at all without clonazepam. Oh well, boredom and borderline depression is better than depression, anxiety, insomnia and muscle twitching/minor grade seizures.

I was irritated because I didn't want to take baclofen for another day because it was causing me massive anxiety attacks, as I wrote the post I couldn't swallow water cause my throat was so jammed up from muscle rigidity... because my tolerance had rocketed too high and I wasn't following by increasing dosages.. and then got told to taper down which would only cause more extreme anxiety attacks WHILE increasing the length of time the drug has been in my system. Also the fact that Benzodiazipines do not help? from my perspective and situation this seemed wrong.So I chose my option and it worked for my situation. Anyways I feel like I'm at 85% now. Should be back to normal by 100% and then I'm never using baclofen again. Even though I have like 20x 25mg strips.

I preferred phenibut for once a week use, it doesn't make me drowsy like baclofen and gives me more of that strange dopamine kick.

Sorry if I seemed harsh but baclo WD watered down with clonazepam isn't exactly my best state of mind.

[GingerDust]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

I'm glad you are okay, FixMySelf! From what I've read, the tolerance you are describing, having to take larger doses of baclofen, is unusual but we're all wired differently. I've noticed that my lower dose of baclofen is becoming less and less effective for both anxiety and cravings, so maybe some of us do build a tolerance.

The rigid throat thing sounds terrifying! I completely agree that boredom is better than seizures and all the rest. I hope you are back to 100% soon.

[FixMySelf]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

Thanks Ginger. I wrote to follow up because I was googling how to deal with WD'd and benzo combos for days and couldn't find anything concrete pertaining to my situation. I've seen people who have used phenibut for 3-4 weeks as well and have had to cold turkey. Yes well, I'm mixed races and while we're all human different races and mixes tend to break down enzymes differently in the liver. I really miss the sleep of phenibut though, super REM sleep.. like a log no waking up 8-9 hours wake up happy and ready.

Oh well, I look forward to doing it once a week when I'm completely in the clear. I prefer it over drinking socially, cheaper too and no stench.

My advice is if your gaba-b use is 2 months or less, get yourself on a benzodiazipine and perhaps ambien for 7 days. It will remove the worst of the symptoms. If you've been on it very long term then you're going to have to come up with a looong battleplan and this does not apply to you.

[missyabby1]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

Why were you taking bac in the first place if you don't have an alcohol problem? This all sounds a bit suss to me.

Missy

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

FixMySelf;1255172 wrote:
... because my tolerance had rocketed too high and I wasn't following by increasing dosages.. and then got told to taper down which would only cause more extreme anxiety attacks WHILE increasing the length of time the drug has been in my system.
Baclofen, tolerance, increasing dosages? Nope.

You use these drugs recreationally and assume that it is going to be without repercussion. You chose baclofen (at 75mg-125mg/day) to get off of phenibut, and you used benzos to get off of baclofen. And you were put out because your 6-pack abs seemed swollen and you were sleepless and full of anxiety.

Dude. You're in the wrong forum. Try Bluelight.

GingerDust;1255180 wrote: I'm glad you are okay, FixMySelf! From what I've read, the tolerance you are describing, having to take larger doses of baclofen, is unusual but we're all wired differently. I've noticed that my lower dose of baclofen is becoming less and less effective for both anxiety and cravings, so maybe some of us do build a tolerance.

The rigid throat thing sounds terrifying! I completely agree that boredom is better than seizures and all the rest. I hope you are back to 100% soon.

Anyone who takes baclofen in the amounts that he took it, without titrating up, or down, is going to have some side effects. Especially when coupled with withdrawal or use of other drugs, recreationally. It has nothing to do, absolutely nothing, with how and why we take baclofen. Tolerance levels? Please. We struggle with intolerance levels, remember?

FixMySelf;1255193 wrote: Thanks Ginger. I wrote to follow up because I was googling how to deal with WD'd and benzo combos for days and couldn't find anything concrete pertaining to my situation. I've seen people who have used phenibut for 3-4 weeks as well and have had to cold turkey. Yes well, I'm mixed races and while we're all human different races and mixes tend to break down enzymes differently in the liver. I really miss the sleep of phenibut though, super REM sleep.. like a log no waking up 8-9 hours wake up happy and ready.

Oh well, I look forward to doing it once a week when I'm completely in the clear. I prefer it over drinking socially, cheaper too and no stench.

My advice is if your gaba-b use is 2 months or less, get yourself on a benzodiazipine and perhaps ambien for 7 days. It will remove the worst of the symptoms. If you've been on it very long term then you're going to have to come up with a looong battleplan and this does not apply to you.

Your advice is unwarranted, and incorrect for those of us who are looking to actually deal with our inability to cope with life without addictive substances.
Good luck with the phenibut use.
Again, you might want to try bluelight.

[Bminor]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

FixMySelf;1252976 wrote: I think it's clear you haven't thoroughly read my posts.

If I cut down 10-20mg per day per week, no 1. I would get severe anxiety problems and physical taper wd which I've been suffering. Number two.. I've only been on the drug for 1-1.5 months. If I do this slow taper I will have been on the drug for an additional month, while my kidneys continue taking this pounding. In fact I need 75mg doses to feel ok for 4 hours and then I need to dose again, meanwhile I experience all kinds of pain and between doses extreme anxiety. They're highish doses but I've only been on it for a short amount of time.

I don't know how you can blurt out any benzo will not work.. I just spelled it out on my previous post what situation it will work for. It is currently working for me and my situation so that disputes your claim. Situation dependant it will work. Whether it's two different parts of same receptors is irrelevant. Benzos have anti convulsant, anti seizure and anti anxiety effects. All which are symptoms of baclofen withdrawal.

Oh well, I shouldn't have posted since I answered all my questions by myself and was suggested something that would be detrimental and just put me into a longer state of anxiety, put me out for a lot longer than 5-7 days of fluffy clonazepam use. Cause me to needlessly suffer. I'm a bit annoyed but whatever, I made the right choice for my situation. Trust me, I wouldn't even be in a state of posting on a forum if I was on a baclo taper right now.. I'd be all jitzed out, aching body. Worried about the next anxiety attack.

but hopefully if someone else googles an equal situation as I was doing myself they'll find something that might help in this thread.

LOL. I just saw this and read the rest of your posts. Amusing. Like you said though, if you can answer your own questions, then why ask them?

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

Joeymama;1256749 wrote: ANNNNNDDDD your medical degree came from WHERE?'

Your advice is to go to BLUELIGHT, interesting, you suggest a foum out of New Zealand or Southeast Asia dedicated to abusing medications. Thats awesome advice from an obviously untrained individual with an axe to grind on people who are here to help themselves and ask questions.
"GO TO A DRUGGE FORUM!!""

Really is that the best advice you can give? I mean really, are you that much of twisted old bat. They didnt go to Bluelight, they came to a selfhelp forum, they maybe 16 years old, 17-18 years old that dont know anything and with addicted parents. You send them to bluelight? You are just a horrid individual. I hope you are 15 years old b/c a grown mature adult would never give that advice. Shame on you

Hi, Bill/Bluto/et al. Your attacks against me...Will they cease? Or did you create this username for that sole purpose? AGAIN???

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

This was where joeymama was...Before he was deleted by the administration and banned from the forum.

[introspecta]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

I'm sorry but this was one of the most informative post for baclofen withdrawal because i'm finding it hard to taper due to the rebound anxiety in between doses and was going to use a benzo for the withdrawal. Only been on about a month. I used soma for long term phen withdrawal in the past and it worked so I have to agree with the OP that it does't matter if its Gaba a it will mask withdrawals as long as its not too long. I now am not fearing my withdrawal as much thanks to this post. I also will agree this isn't the right way the med should be taken and is best used if not switching from one gaba b agonist to another but if anyone is having trouble tapering in the end you can use a benzo for a few days if you experience rebounds. You gottta try something before you can say it won't work.

[introspecta]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

BTW i just registered here to comment on this thread because after searching endlessly I can't seem to have any success finding reports of people saying they tapered off succesfully. All the threads end while they are still tapering and don't say how it went down when they jumped off completlely. I wish there were more reports of people getting off successfully. You hear a few people say they got off without problems but thats about it. I'm currently on 40 mg's a day and am experiencing sleep issues and anxiety, mood, headaches side effects. I just want a clear head and this drug does not leave me clear at all.. I can't believe what people are willing to put themselves through to not drink. How about go to an AA meeting and surrender to drugs. I'm no better here but I know how ridiculous it is to take a drug so I won't take another drug. I'm not drinking but i'm drunk on a pill. Maybe more functionable but really is it any better? I know some people have good success but I hear alot of shitty stories of major side effects and fogged up drugged up people. Its kinda sad knowing that this disease can be healed through just showing up to AA and the power and energy of the mtg along with the intention heals. Pills don't heal or Cure. Saying Baclofen is a Cure is ridiculous. And Doctor L is a Moron. He told me to just stop taking my suboxone at 6 mgs before I got on baclofen. Thats real smart advice. I'd be withdrawing for months. And prescibing xanax and baclofen together? Does he realize they potentiate each other making each other stronger down regulating the whole gaba system. wow. Doctors are just complete idiots who live there studies as word of god but have no subjective knowing whatsover. Good luck to all and if I offended you i'm sorry just speaking my truth and frustration here.

[LadyLush]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

It must be hard to come up with a different screen name EVERY day.

[introspecta]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

Trust me I'm not the OP. I promise you that. I knew someone would think that because I've seen people accused of that before.. I swear I am not. This post was just useful and I guess I have a bit in common with the op. If he were that pathetic to comment on his post saying i agree just to prove he was right that would be sad. Its cool if you don't believe me but i'm def not that guy. haha.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

Oh, goody! Another drug addict with all the answers and no solution.

Hmmm. Let's see. You were on 6mg of suboxone a day. And then you got up to 40mg of baclofen and you presume to have any idea what we're doing, why and how? And you relate to the OP who was looking for a substitute for his drug of choice because he's an addict and his pet wasn't going to work for him? So he's going to use a benzo to get off of bac, then moderate the phen, and therefore not drink.
sooo....
There are plenty of people around here who not only quit drinking, they quit using anything that defined their lives, and have successfully tapered off of baclofen.

We'll be here when you're ready to get off the carousel. Until then, stay safe.

introspecta;1268169 wrote: BTW i just registered here to comment on this thread because after searching endlessly I can't seem to have any success finding reports of people saying they tapered off succesfully. All the threads end while they are still tapering and don't say how it went down when they jumped off completlely. I wish there were more reports of people getting off successfully. You hear a few people say they got off without problems but thats about it. I'm currently on 40 mg's a day and am experiencing sleep issues and anxiety, mood, headaches side effects. I just want a clear head and this drug does not leave me clear at all.. I can't believe what people are willing to put themselves through to not drink. How about go to an AA meeting and surrender to drugs. I'm no better here but I know how ridiculous it is to take a drug so I won't take another drug. I'm not drinking but i'm drunk on a pill. Maybe more functionable but really is it any better? I know some people have good success but I hear alot of shitty stories of major side effects and fogged up drugged up people. Its kinda sad knowing that this disease can be healed through just showing up to AA and the power and energy of the mtg along with the intention heals. Pills don't heal or Cure. Saying Baclofen is a Cure is ridiculous. And Doctor L is a Moron. He told me to just stop taking my suboxone at 6 mgs before I got on baclofen. Thats real smart advice. I'd be withdrawing for months. And prescibing xanax and baclofen together? Does he realize they potentiate each other making each other stronger down regulating the whole gaba system. wow. Doctors are just complete idiots who live there studies as word of god but have no subjective knowing whatsover. Good luck to all and if I offended you i'm sorry just speaking my truth and frustration here.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Use clonazepam to deal with baclofen withdrawal?

Oh, and btw, there is an account of a heroin addict around here somewhere. He's free now, too. Baclofen.