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    #31
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    Hi All
    Jim inappropriate not at all! Sharing so honestly with us here is brave on your part. You never know when words we write here help a member. So glad to see you worked your way through it.
    This action years ago left my cousins without a father. Everyone in a family suffers.

    Stay Healthy and Keep Fighting
    AF 5-16-08
    Stay Healthy and Keep Fighting
    AF 5-16-08

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      #32
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      I am sorry to be late on this - I just saw this post. I am so sorry you are all feeling this pain...seems there is really nothing you can do to stop someone if they have it in their head to go through with it. Alcohol clouds the judgement as you know and brings up a shitload of underlying pain that without AL lies dormant. Very very sad. My father committed suicide and my ex husband tried 4 times in our 11 year marriage. He ended up dying from drugs and alcohol so in a way he committed suicide as well. A good friend, a police officer, took his life two years ago. Too much drink and a firearm. It still stings. I wish all of you peace, and I will pray for the people who left us. Love Waggy.
      February 27th, 2013. A New , Successful Start. :h

      When everything seems like an uphill struggle, just think of the view from the top!!

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        #33
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        How very sad and such a waste of life. RIP.
        Jim, what a blessing your post will be to others here, thank you for trying to make a difference.
        Life is full of unfairness and unanswered questions and for some to be able to try and fathom why suicide occurs is almost impossible as no one can enter anothers mind.
        Bless you all my frineds
        xx
        HOUR BY HOUR, DAY BY DAY

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          #34
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          Geez, how terrible. Been there but did not have a gun thank god. Hang in there.

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            #35
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            Oh God Waggy...how awful
            yeah...I dont like guns either
            I love my family more than alcohol.:h
            Live in the Solution....not the problem

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              #36
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              Thank you, everyone.

              Road to Recovery;1287332 wrote: NE,
              I am so sorry to hear about this. You must remember that this is not a result of anything you did or didn't do. Unfortunately, Michelle must have felt very hopeless, I have been there. When I was 20, my friends and I would always get together at the house and drink and have a great time - we all enjoyed our time together so much and everyone seemed happy. One Saturday afternoon, a friend was at another friends house and one friend said " I need to go outside and check on something. While outside, he heard a gunshot. He rushed inside and found my other friend had shot himself and died. No one knew he was feeling so low - There may have been warning signs along the way but no one saw them.

              People sometimes say "How can someone do that? Don't they know that they are hurting other people? What a coward - took the easy way out of his problems"

              Well after I heard the news, the following weekend while at my sister's house - drinking, getting ready to go to a party with my friends - my sister and husband were leaving to go out as well and my sister said as she was leaving - "Have fun tonight; don't kill yourself". There in that instance - that one innocent comment, something inside my head snapped. Like a lightswitch, "don't kill yourself". In that instance, my brain snapped - don't kill yourself. It became my every thought - constant thoughts of killing myself. Use one of the guns - use a knife - I feel so hopeless - I am never going to feel normal again - just kill yourself already - it's over, you won't live to see next week.
              When we talk about suicide - we think "he had everything going for him. Great job, great family, has money". But it's not always about what you have, sometimes it's this thought - however it got there - it is telling you that everything is hopeless. My thoughts - My car payment is due this Friday - yah but who cares you are going to be dead soon anyway. Hey - I got a raise at work! Who cares, you are going to kill yourself. I am starting to feel better about life - yah but you are going to kill yourself.
              My sister had to remove the guns from the house, I couldn't eat, I couldn't see my friends, I just wanted to lay on the couch and try to understand why this was happening to me. How is this possible?
              I finally told my mother and she took me in to see a docctor and I was put on anti deppressants. Slowly but surely, I started to feel normal again. The thoughts were becoming less frequent - I could finally see myself being around long term.
              That feeling of hopelessness - it is very very scary. You are all alone. Know one could say anything to make it go away.
              There are those that get angry and in the heat of the moment do something that can't take back - they are gone. But also, there are those that suffer, feel hopeless - sometimes they reach out for help, sometimes they surrender - it's too much.

              I wrote this here in hopes to help some understand what some people are going through and how they can be driven to such extreme actions. If anyone feels what I have written is innappropriate - I will remove it.
              Take care my friends.
              Jim
              Thank you so much, Jim. She described much of what you shared here. I was and am very moved by your post.
              :l
              Karen

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                #37
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                RIP. I'm sorry to hear of such a tragedy.

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                  #38
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                  How sad.....I've been around for awhile and have had friends on this site that have taken their lives. That's why we need to be vigilant and listen and watch out for little sign words that may lean a person to be on the verge of suicide....Remember: "When we help each other, we help ourselves". RIP.
                  ?Be who you are and say what you feel because
                  those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.?
                  Dr. Seuss

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                    #39
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                    I am so sorry for all of you who have lost someone due to suicide. :l

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                      #40
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                      I'm very sad to read this tonight. My father shot and killed himself during a binge some 25 years ago. The tragedy just never seems to end as both I and my son, as well as several other family members, are now trying to deal with this terrible addiction.

                      I'm sorry to post late on this thread but I just became active here and wanted to offer my understanding and condolences.

                      Sis

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