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    Well, been running around and keeping busy, so haven't been on MWO at all the past few days. But here it is, 1:30 AM and I not only can't sleep but was on the verge of a full-blown panic attack, so here I am. Writing here always helps, and plus I figured an update wouldn't hurt.

    So I drove to Vegas over the weekend. One of my good friends from back home called last Wednesday to tell me he'd be there for a cousin's wedding, and though it was short notice I figured what the hell, right? How many times am I going to get the chance to run around Vegas with him? So after doing a bunch of laundry and stuff around here on Friday, I packed up and headed out. Took a long, long time thanks to traffic getting out of LA, and I was having some anxiety about going to Vegas in the first place, so it was kind of a mini-nightmare holding it together on the drive, though that did clear up a little as the sun went down and the traffic lightened. By the time I was out in the desert in the dark I was feeling pretty good for the most part - had coffee with me and smokes and good music on the radio. Got in around 10 PM and hooked up with him and his crew, and by that time the anxiety was coming back strong, not sure why. I think just being there, where you're kind of expected to be both really drunk and irresponsible, was enough to make me fear some kind of total collapse or something. I took 1/2 an Ativan before leaving the hotel room, and that did take a little while to kick in, but eventually it kind of evened things out.

    So we went to a nightclub in one of the casinos, and got bottle service and a reserved table, for what cost a FORTUNE, but my friend paid most of my share for me, 'cause I drove out there and because I don't drink anymore, so WTF do I need with bottle service. I was happy enough to toast with cranberry juice as our group took down two bottles of vodka. Then we stood over by the dance floor and watched the craziness ensue. My buddy was of course not done drinking by a long shot, so he started hitting the Jameson on the rocks really hard - my favorite - and hitting on women, surprised that they talked and flirted right back with him, and even more surprised to learn that they were prostitutes. So we closed down the club at 4 AM, and he wanted 2 things: at least another drink or two, and a single girl. So we're walking through the maze of casinos toward our hotel, and I find us a place where there's a bar with some people, and he spots a girl sitting by herself. Mission accomplished, right? I mean, I led him straight to the promised land, considering he was too drunk to really even know where he was. He said he was going to hit on this girl, who even being drunk he knew she was not all that attractive. So I left, and went back to the room and went to sleep around 6 or 6:30 AM. At 11 we woke up, and about the only thing he remembered from the night before was that he had sex with an ugly girl.

    At breakfast with his mom, he kept trying to figure out where all his money went and why he felt so awful, and I had to then tell him he started drinking Jameson after all the vodka was gone. "I did!?" was pretty much his response. "Yes. Yes you did."

    The wedding was that afternoon, and he was in the wedding party, so there was lots of getting ready and tuxedos, and the ceremony. Afterward we headed to the reception at this sushi restaurant, and I sat with my friend's mom and an aunt and uncle - I've met them before but don't get a chance to see them much. While the rest of the folks my age proceeded to get drunk again. After sushi we wandered this huge mall, heckled shopkeepers and hit on salesgirls, got giant margaritas and daquiris, gambled a bit, and then hit up a strip club.

    I'd not been to a strip club in Vegas, so I was interested in seeing what it was all about. Well, I was unimpressed but did respond when one of the girls massaged my shoulders a little and started talking to me, and asked me to buy her a drink at the bar. So we chatted for a bit, mostly me asking her about how things run in Vegas, and we negotiated a lap dance. Basically, this meant that she started around $100, and I started with "hey, but the sign over there says $20." I mean, I understand she works for a living and do want to support her and pay for the services she's providing - and yeah, to me that means just being there to look at, I feel they should be paid for their time because the club sure as hell isn't taking care of them. So that's my reasoning: she was nice and friendly, rubbed my shoulders for a bit and put on the act of flirting and being interested in me, and for that I'm willing to then pay for a lap dance. We settled on $40 for a couple songs. During those songs, while she was dancing, is when she propositioned me for sex back at my hotel room, and I had to politely decline, citing financial rather than moral objections.

    At about 2:30 AM we were about done with the strip club, but my friend was by no means done drinking. So I asked the group - which included the groom - if they trusted me, and they said they did. So I lead us across town to downtown Vegas, to this biker bar that I think is just the coolest place on earth. It's dirty, it's full of locals, it's a bunch of chicks dancing topless on the bar whenever they want, and bartenders in bikini-tops screaming at people over megaphones. I could stay there forever. What I did not take into account, though, which in retrospect was completely obvious, was that my friends are black. Black and from the hood. So they were shall we say less than comfortable right away, and even refused to walk toward the door until my friend went with me to check it out. That never even occurred to me, but no there were no other black folks there. But anyway it all worked out and my friend LOVED the place, like I knew he would. It was just the groom and two other cousins who were miserable and I felt really shitty and on edge because I'd dragged them out here, and that was balanced by how happy I was to be there again and just hang out and watch people have FUN. It's not like the rest of Vegas - people were just genuinely enjoying themselves here and if you were in that bar and not an asshole you were basically family.

    But my friend was also hitting on this girl from our group, and so as he continued to get inebriated he got more and more laser-focused on her, and everyone else wanted to leave and things just fell apart. And it was finally around 5 AM that I got him and this girl out of there and into a taxi. And they started making out in the back seat, and he decided to get out with her at her hotel, leaving me to take the cab back to ours - I was staying in his room. And he gets in at about 6, and has to leave for the airport at 6:30, and passes out the moment he finishes packing, and passes out in such a position that he's snoring violently for about 5 minutes until he stops breathing, because he's closed off his own airway with his fat head folded over his neck down on his chest. I'm waiting, one second, two seconds, about to get out of bed and roll him over, when he bolts upright, coughing so hard I thought he was going to be sick on me. He then passes out again, his mom calls, I start beating him with pillows and shaking him awake, twice, and basically push him out of the damned room. He will remember almost none of the entire weekend. He barely remembers almost having sex with that girl this morning.

    That was our weekend. I slept in until 11 again, and checked out of the room, returned his tuxedo, and drove back to LA. All in all, I feel like the more things I go do, and not drink, and not end up in catastrophe, makes the anxiety a little better. You know, I didn't need any Ativan the second night. And I didn't drink - I smelled my friend's Jamesons a couple times, but didn't drink. And there wasn't any catastrophe for me and no hangovers and no withdrawal. This time Vegas didn't have to be a 56 hour straight bender, capped off with a ton of Ativan on the ride back. I feel like each time I do things like this I should get a little stronger.

    But I got back here and got home and just got so, so down. I was happy to be coming back. I was annoyed as shit with my friend. I was tired. I wanted to be back here, but man I just got so low and cranky and kind of pissed off and anxious about a lot of stuff. By the time I got in bed around midnight the anxiety was already taking over. Took 600mg of neurontin, but then almost immediately also took 1/2 an Ativan. Starting to feel better. I probably shouldn't have made almost a full pot of coffee this evening, but I really wanted it.

    I have a writing deadline on Thursday.

    The other development is the girl back home - the one I slept with, and am going to see again in San Diego next month. We talked on the phone almost the whole time I was driving back. And she's decided to fly out here in 2 weeks for a weekend visit. She didn't want to have to wait another month. And I didn't want to wait, either. I suddenly really like this girl. Like really like. It's kind of inexplicable, and complicated of course, with me being fairly new at this sobriety-game, and her getting out of a 6 year relationship. But we'll have a weekend with just the two of us soon, and then a week in San Diego with a few other friends. And we're already talking about plans over the Christmas break when we talked on the phone I think two more times after I got home tonight. Maybe it just all adds up and anxiety took over? I don't know.

    Sorry this turned into such a long post. I just really needed it. The Ativan is starting to kick in and I'm getting pretty sleepy. And It's 2 AM and I have alarms set for around 7 so I can get up and start writing for this deadline. So guess I'll sign off here, and take my ass to bed for some much needed rest after this self-inflicted exhausting weekend.

    Hope everyone's well. And I'll probably be around the boards a little more again the next fee days. Hang in, everybody. Space, thinking of you especially. And Skull I think I saw you got 60 days - that's awesome, man. Keep it up!

    :l:l

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      Damn just lot my post.

      Stuck you are really doing this arnt you, reading through then I kept on thinking you would say you caved and drank but you did it, had a cool weekend and helped your friend out. I am so happy for you and somehow proud of you. Since you first came on here and started this thread you have changed so much. Im glad about this girl you like, its great that this has happened now your not drinking, you are making plans and it sounds so good.

      Im not so good but you have just inspired me to get up and do something with my day instead of staying in this slump Ive been in so thanks, I cant drive to vegas but will clean my house a bit

      Take care stuck and have a great day you deserve it.:l

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        desperadoss;1565566 wrote: uhm, can i puke now...
        Hi desperados!

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29

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          Oh My Dear Stuck, what an adventure and I do congratulate you on not drinking thru the whole ordeal, so well done. And it's nice that you have an actual human connection to a woman now, that is really wonderful:h and i hope it goes well for you.

          Now I'm also thinking that you might want to keep your female friends here, even the ugly ones? Hmmm, we are not all beautiful on the outside, it's the inside that really counts

          Lots of Love from Play

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            You are quite right, Play. We are not all about the beauty on the outside - so sorry about that. My buddy was acting like that girl stole something from him, which I thought was weird considering he hadn't gotten laid in over a year, and now that he does hook up with someone he gets mad that she wasn't *up to his standards*. I thought the whole business was ridiculous, but maybe it didn't come across that way?

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              StuckinLA;1566082 wrote: he gets mad that she wasn't *up to his standards*.
              Quite pathetic.
              I don't remember you mentioning he has to marry her.
              If she wasn't good enough for him, he should have stayed away from her.

              I guess this says more about him than about her. But hey, he can always blame the alcohol.

              But I'm glad that you did find yourself an appealing girl.
              Today is the first day of the rest of my life.

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                7 months, 5 days alcohol free. The streak came to an end in New Orleans, with an ex-girlfriend. Nothing too bad happened. Yesterday I woke up drunk, felt awful, had a couple bloody marys at the airport, then a couple Jamesons waiting for my connecting flight, and when I got home it felt too easy to drink again since the AF streak was broken. Why not get a bottle of Maker's Mark and a 6-pack of a good ale that I used to like, right?

                So last night I hung out at the apartment, sipping bourbon from my new Bourbon St shot glass and drinking beers, and talking on the phone with the new girl, who's sort of an official long-distance girlfriend now.

                The problem - and this is a really tough thing to swallow - is that I don't think I really like drinking anymore. And I mean that in a different way than we alkies tend to say it. It doesn't seem to do what I remember it doing, and having the first couple drinks wasn't euphoric, or didn't even really feel like much of anything at all, and then suddenly I'd be drunk. The bourbon wasn't all that great even, though of course I kept drinking it until I passed out. And now today I feel like shit, my sinuses are super jacked-up from the flight, and I think I've come down with a cold from being out in the weather in New Orleans, where it was *not* warm at all. So this sucks. There doesn't seem to be a point in moderating, and I don't like being hungover even if I'm not in horrible withdrawal, which I don't think I am at the moment. And so I guess I'll just go back to abstinence and see how that goes, only now with a couple more beers in the fridge and a 1/2 bottle of bourbon in the cabinet. Heading home for the holidays on Thursday, and I don't want to be drinking when I have a rental car 'cause that's really a recipe for disaster.

                I really am just bummed out, most of all. It feels like when I realized weed didn't work for me anymore, either, a couple months ago. I was really psyched to get high, but then didn't actually like being high. And now I feel kind of the same about booze, and it's sort of just depressing as hell. Oh well, that's f**king life I guess.

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                  Hi Stuck, just making the rounds and wanted to send a shout out.
                  Merry Christmas brother.

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                    Stuck, just to revive/refresh your thread pal

                    www.thestar.com/news/insight/insight/2014/01/10/the_wreck_i_was_walking_in_the_shoes_of_an_addict. html

                    I've tried my best, In't good with stuff like paste and whatever...

                    just google: 'toronto star Jim Coyle The wreck I was'

                    should show up as numerous page testimony of a great Canadian journalist

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                      Hi whatever, thanks for the link to Jim Coyle's article. Very interesting. Are you Canadian? Hope you are having a good evening.
                      JMum
                      My first "indifference experience" Saturday January 11, 2014. Thank God for Baclofen!

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                        Jazi's Mum;1613649 wrote: Hi whatever, thanks for the link to Jim Coyle's article. Very interesting. Are you Canadian? Hope you are having a good evening.
                        JMum
                        Proud of it!

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                          Hi Stuck - I am up to Hemingway and Fitzgerald - in the Olivia Laing book. Its pretty interesting and throws some yet more insight into the bullshit of why writers drink (and think they must). I am not impressed with the way she is a cheerleader for AA. Can't understand why she has to do that in this book. The book is a lot about her (too much IMO) and kind of a little too cutesy middle class. You may see what I mean when you get to read it.
                          I have been reading/watching a few things where AL is in the fore - not in a self help way but because I am interested in how it plays out in some of our visual and literary culture. Kind of fascinated with some 70s Brit TV shows like 'The Lotus Eaters' and 'Bouquet of Barbed Wire'. In the latter - every time there is a crisis/problem/anxiety - gulp - have a drink - as well as when there is sex and celebrations. They do drink tea and horrible looking coffee too.
                          This isn't my area of expertise - but just something thats intriguing at the moment - much as the hairstyle and shoes are! I got so fed up with self help and confessional books on AL and have moved on to some of the literature and movies.
                          Anyway - thought it might fit into your thread. Wee saga that it is as well.

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                            Yeah I flipped through enough before forgetting the book at home that she includes the 12 steps at the back. That's weird, considering none of the writers she talks about were in AA. If she'd written a chapter on David Foster Wallace that would actually make sense, but she didn't.

                            Speaking of which, not many people remember this but about 1/3 or so of Infinite Jest takes place in Boston AA and a 1/2way house, and is super fascinating and pretty emotional and really cool. Another 1/3 is in a youth tennis academy and that part's good too, and the last 1/3 can fuck off and burn. So if anyone out there finds a copy with those divisions marked, let me know.

                            The most recent film that pissed me off a lot, Tree, is Flight. Seen it? The opening crash sequence is AMAZEBALLS it's so good. And John Goodman does kind of save the whole thing at the end, but in between there's so much stereotyped addiction BS and then the end-end, oh god, I could scream even now I hate it so much goddammit. But the movie's streaming free on Netflix, if you have that, and overall I'd say worth a look if you're not doing anything else.

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                              Holy Cow :yuk: I don't know if I've ever read a movie review and recommendation quite like that :H:H
                              My first "indifference experience" Saturday January 11, 2014. Thank God for Baclofen!

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                                Stuck - I watched Flight - on a long haul Flight :H:H true I did. And it annoyed me a lot too. I know a lot of people on MWO really like it - but to me it was Hollywood and stereotypes and all that. I was half expecting the theme tune from Rocky to start being played when the main character "conquered his demons".

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