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[StuckinLA]

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Oh, sorry. No, I'm not going nuts. Not off completely, just down maybe for a bit. Again, still asking for advice on this point.

I've just somehow managed to turn myself into a total drunk again, even on a whole bunch of bac, so wondering where to go from here. Especially given that I can't, unfortunately, disappear for the next few weeks and fix this.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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Sleep makes a whole lot of things much more tolerable Stuck. Life also becomes doable.

You can lose your shit for a brief amount of time, and still continue on with life. Even if it's just tonight.

You won't be able to solve these burning questions from the bottom (or even the middle) of the bottle, with little or no sleep and incredible anxiety. Remember how you felt yesterday afternoon? Versus how you felt yesterday morning? It DOES get better/easier. And soon.

What're the chances you can go get some sleep? You'll likely have to talk yourself into it, and be calm and soothing and gentle. You can sleep, though. Don't let fear overtake reason. Fear rules, but reason is right. You know?

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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Oh. And the 60 yo. :H:H:H

THAT is FUNNY.

And the essay? I'd love to read it. That is a great opening line. Maybe mine would be...hmmm. Now I've put myself on the spot. But I have no doubt that I saved my own life. The evidence of the resurrection is happening right now...I'm sitting on the patio of an apartment in a retirement community watching the sun come up over a marsh/forest. It is spectacular.

And contemplating, no actually realizing the dream not just to go to school and do well, but to go to a really GOOD school. With really smart people. Other really smart people. (It took me 40 years, give or take, to realize I can realize my potential. Feck. That's too damn long!)

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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Oh. And stick with your thread. You'll thank me later.

[spacebebe01]

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I got worried there I thought you were thinking of coming off bac all together and just getting pissed every night instead, glad you cleared that up.

OK what I think is the most important thing for you to do right now, as in today, well tonight really but you should plan it today is get a good nights sleep. Right?? Do what you have to do, it takes time, when I drank a lot my sleep was bad because I just passed out, and then after a few hours when the al had started leaving my system I would wake up needing another drink and feeling awful. Then when I stopped/cut down drinking for a few days I wouldnt sleep at all just go day, night, day, night no sleep but then start to sleep. I was also scared to go to bed, terrified of the quietness and aloneness of being in bed in case my head started going on about all the shit I have done, and who is after me and all that crap, so I would stay on the settee, with the tv on so the noise would drown out my thoughts, and it worked, I would dose off, for a bit, eventually I got a night sleep, then I could go to bed. I take melatonin every night and used to take other sleep meds when I had problems. Now I just need hot milk and Im giving it zzzzzzzzzzzz's.

I dont know what you should do about the bac, if it was me Id come down a bit but then Im a total bac wimp and just cant take it, its one of my big regrets that I have never managed to get what Ne and others have achieved from it, so then Id say no, stick with it and dont do what Id do because what I do is often wrong. Whatever you decide can you try and cut down on drinking a bit somehow, I dont know how, try L glut, or nal, or campral or chocolate or walking anything just to help you feel better.

What have you got to do today? ok I just looked you teach from 2 - 4 and are going to skip the lecture. So Im assuming you sober yourself up to go and teach, and you will have already taken some of your bac, will you have eaten anything? if not do so. then at 4 you could take your largest dose of the day, before you start drinking again. And dont forget to eat again later on, in fact you need to eat at least 3 times a day

Thats all Ive got, Im rooting for you, You can do this stuck

[bleep]

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That's a great opening line.

I think that as well as getting to a high number, there's also a time element at play here. So hanging around at a lower number isn't necessarily a waste of time I don't think. You are slowly adjusting to baclofen all the time, and I think that even having less than the required amount running through your brain still brings you closer.

I think a year ago I would have just recommended going up, regardless. Now I can't see what the rush is for. Whether it takes 6 weeks or 6 months to reach indifference doesn't really make much difference in the grand scheme, provided of course you aren't a shot glass away from cirrhosis.

[StuckinLA]

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Man, support does help. Who knew you'd all be right about that one, too?

I'm not dropping anything crazy, but I am going to come down--slowly--and just see. I'm also going to have to get the drinking under control. I really don't want to pour anything down the drain... But if I just come straight home tonight there isn't enough here to get me into too much trouble.

I actually am up, and about to jump in the shower, and it looks like I'm going to make it to that lecture (why, oh why?). Er, I'm writing this sentence last: rethinking the lecture.

Then I've got until Monday before this rigamarole starts again. Only my online job for a few hours each day over the weekend. So sleep won't really matter for the next few days. :upset:

And I do hate tinkering with the dose. It's all pretty clear, from combined experience to that very-official document whose officiality we can't really verify, that going up steadily is really the only thing that works. Any movement other than that and, well, Stuck again.

I'll be around, and honest, so y'all can hold my feet to the fire if I'm screwing up. Thanks again.

Oh, and holy crap, the Supreme Court just UPHELD THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. Go progressives, go!

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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bleep;1342350 wrote:

I think that as well as getting to a high number, there's also a time element at play here. So hanging around at a lower number isn't necessarily a waste of time I don't think. You are slowly adjusting to baclofen all the time, and I think that even having less than the required amount running through your brain still brings you closer.

... provided of course you aren't a shot glass away from cirrhosis.
Yep. A resounding yes. I completely concur and defer, fwiw.

StuckinLA;1342354 wrote: :upset:

And I do hate tinkering with the dose. It's all pretty clear, from combined experience to that very-official document whose officiality we can't really verify, that going up steadily is really the only thing that works. Any movement other than that and, well, Stuck again.

Not true. In fact, the opposite might be true.
Let me be clear: I would not change how I did it. (Okay. I might have tried to give up the booze instead of insisting on drinking every available moment. But who knows? I don't remember what that feels like anymore, so maybe I'm full of malarkey.)
I would still titrate all the way up to 320mg. I would have taken the last leap of faith and gone from 260mg, when I didn't think I could take another minute, to 320mg in a couple of days.
I couldn't count. I could not count out my pills for the following day. Ed had to count them out for me and put them in the appropriate time-labeled bags. bleep helped me figure out the time schedule so that I could tell Ed. yep. booze+HDB=not so much brain function. That said, I would not wish it, as bleep said back then, on my worst enemy, but I'd give it to my best friend.

There have been many, many accounts around here of people who reached indifference without that drama. They took xanax, or something similar, and regularly, not just willy-nilly. Or they went slow.
Going down may take the edge off so you can get a grip on the booze. Getting a grip on the booze will allow you to function AND go up.
You might just find that if you go down to 160mg (for example) today, that you have a much better day, and a much easier night. And if not, you can always take more.

I'll always be a fan of the Pez approach, but I had nothing (though I didn't know it consciously) to lose.


StuckinLA;1342354 wrote: Oh, and holy crap, the Supreme Court just UPHELD THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. Go progressives, go!

Minus the clause that everyone has to be insured. Which was the only way it would function, get paid for, or work out in the long term.
*sigh*
Still, it's a step! rock on.

[StuckinLA]

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Minus the clause that everyone has to be insured. Which was the only way it would function, get paid for, or work out in the long term.
*sigh*
Still, it's a step! rock on.

No, really, they did! Individual mandate stands. It's weird--they rejected it on the grounds the gov't argued, that congress is regulating interstate commerce. BUT they interpreted the mandate as a tax, which congress can do.

From Roberts's decision:

?The individual mandate cannot be upheld as an exercise of Congress?s power under the Commerce Clause. In this case, however, it is reasonable to construe what Congress has done as increasing taxes on those who have a certain amount of income, but choose to go without health insurance. Such legislation is within Congress?s power to tax.?

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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YOWZA!
Holy shit, that's going to make a lotta people really mad. And hmmm. Unlikely that Congress would pass a new tax unless someone gets some backbone...in an election year...Which could go either way.

The battle begins for real now. Have you heard of Cuccinelli, my attorney general? Well, he's not mine. In fact, I disown him. I wish he'd disown me and move. What you might not know is that the AG's office is a direct line to the governor's office. And that knucklehead is not conservative. He's scary.

But I promise you that a discussion of politics will result in a kerfuffle, and maybe even a blow out/up and chaos. so I'll delete some of this info shortly. Politics and religion...Doesn't really matter in the scheme of things for the purposes of MWO. Plus, the peeps from other countries don't want to hear us bicker. :H

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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I really, really wish COS would check in. Has anyone got his email address?

[spacebebe01]

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I can second that our own UK politics does my head in enough, I dont want to hear about yours:H

No I havent got COS's email, Ive sent him a pm, I do wish we did hear just a word to say hes ok.

[spacebebe01]

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Just to let you all know COS is ok, he should call in soon

[COSGringo]

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Thanks all. I posted this elsewhere but wrong place I think. Been crazy here but today calmed down. Wind stopped for a while so I could get out help some folks and get some things done. Needed some produce too. Been talking with locals and family and been busy readying in case things got worse. Have the house shut up so no smoke gets in. Dog is going crazy.

Fire has stayed West and not moved towards us yet and I think we are good now even though we have some weather coming through. Got everything done which is good. Smoke and ash starting to move in.

Some crazy photos here-
Stunning images reveal warlike damage in Colorado Springs : News : ColoradoConnection.com

Obama comes here Friday. Maybe I can get a photo of me giving him a fist bump? Secret Service might have issues with me since I am on that nasty med baclofen.

I feel for those that lost their homes and my friends are among them. No one has lost their life (that's the important thing) and I don't know how since it blew through some areas Tuesday and no one expected it. There are worse disasters and atrocities in this world so no need to dwell on this.

[COSGringo]

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For some reason the link is not posting right. Let's try it again-

PHOTOS: Waldo Canyon Fire near Colorado Springs : News : ColoradoConnection.com