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    I like that suggestion a lot, IFul. Reminds me of a layover I once had in Amsterdam during one of the major rugby tournaments, when a friend of mine and I spent the morning in a pub. There was a group of Scots over in the corner, a little rowdy for 8 am local time, and they were harassing one of their friends for drinking cider. The harassed friend held up his pint, looked at it for a second, then said "hey it's juice, it's me breakfast!" Or something to that effect.

    If you're looking for something a little less alcoholic, Sticky, a friend here on MWO suggested cascara sagrada, which is I guess some kind of natural herb-y type thing.

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      Totally new to forum, sort of new to bac

      I'm with Bruun on the magnesium, Sticky. Also, some good probiotics would be beneficial. Alcohol kills the good bacteria in our gut. I like the probiotic called Healthy Trinity. It's made by Natren. It's a bit pricey, but worth it in my opinion. Garden of Life makes some good ones too-again pricey. Or just drinking kefir on a regular basis (if you can tolerate dairy) might help. The probiotics are a slow, but maybe much needed fix. Spinach is awesome too! Close to a miracle food.

      Hope I'm not too late in responding. There's no need to bring up my thread. I'll update it soon. I'm thinking within a week or two. I'd like to wait until I hear whether I've been accepted to school, so I can tell you about it, as well as get some much needed advice and support. In the meantime, I'm doing okay.
      This Princess Saved Herself

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        Hey guys

        Thanks so much for your words of wisdom on the shitting front!! I have to say that fortunately I saw the GP prescribing me bac today. He gave me some Coloxon which, though it's a laxative (which i'd rather not take), worked almost immediately! Yay! But those ideas above are great, esp spinach as we have that from our vege order and in the garden, and Magnesium.
        Also instead of the super low dose Diazepam (4mg for every 2nd day) the doc's been giving me once a fortnight for a coupla months, I am now going to try melatonin to help me sleep. The last time I took that was back in the 80's I think over the counter in the U.S. in my trolley dolly (flight attendant) days. It made me feel so zonked out the next day i didn't bother again. Anyway this stuff i got today is homeopathic & apparently will not make me feel zonked out tomorrow. Worth a try & not addictive, unlike benzos and sleeping pills.
        Had to cancel a dinner at home tonight we had planned for a friend from Oz and another couple as I was so not up to it. Also hubby was so not up to it. He is tired, grumpy and stressed and was pissed off with me today as i haven't been in the office much. We have lost some potential work b/c neither of us has had the time to get back to potential clients. Having said that we still have plenty to last til Xmas. This is traditionally our super busy time as mentioned above. Now we just have to tie something up for mid/end Jan and we are sweet. Except we aren't. My other frequent worry since I've know hubby (nearly 20 years) is lack of money and not paying bills on time. The joys of being self-employed and having an overly optimistic partner! The fact that he is overly optimistic and even now somewhat of a workaholic has meant he has successfully had his own business for like 30 years. The last 14 years it (they, as we have 2 businesses for the past 3-4 years, but no time to develop the secondary one to its full potential) have had my Assistant Manager input.
        Must sign off here as time to tuck in younger son.

        Cheers
        Sticky

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          Oh & Stuck (& everyone else)

          Re your leg pain thing, i have had sensitive gums since starting bac. GP didn't think it was related but i know it's since starting bac that it's happened and when i take bac it gets worse. Also like i said i am taking the bulk of bac at night 8.30/9pm. Mentioned that to GP today but he didn't suggest changing it. Is this a dumb idea and should i spread it out a bit more?

          Stuck, you may not see yourself as much of a role model, but i did mention to doc today your idea of going down. i have no desire to go from 170 to 80 at this stage nor to do what i think NE said she did and go up & down. But a slight decrease is not out of the question. i said to Scott (GP) today i wanted it all fixed tomorrow, after 17 months which ended in disaster doing TSM. And 20 years in AA with many relapses. But in the real world we all know that's not going to happen. i also said perhaps my only opportunity to be at so high a dose where i couldn't drive a car was when we go to Sydney 4-20 Jan for younger son's futsal (indoor soccer) tournament and summer holiday. But by the same token i don't want my holiday to be ruined. Holidays are something i need and very much look forward to. They are not to be ruined at any cost!!

          Sorry to rant on and maybe i should strike up my own thread again. I'll play it by ear.

          Thanks for your support
          Cheers
          Sticky :wave:

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            Sticky;1411585 wrote: Oh & Stuck (& everyone else)

            i also said perhaps my only opportunity to be at so high a dose where i couldn't drive a car was when we go to Sydney 4-20 Jan for younger son's futsal (indoor soccer) tournament and summer holiday.
            Please open a thread Sticky. I am also stuck at a point where the somnolence is not too much of a problem but when and how do I make a run for the controlling dose, a.k.a. switch?

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              Studying nutrition and metabolism in class this morning. Do you think it would be disruptive if I entered myself as a conscientious objector? Feckin' food pyramid. Are you kidding me?

              I know I've got a sympathetic group in you peeps. I'm going to pretend to pay attention now. If I actually listened I'd just get pissed off. Thank goodness for pinterest.

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                Ne/Neva Eva;1412312 wrote: Feckin' food pyramid. Are you kidding me?
                I hear that. The Food Guide Pyramid=obesity and chronic illness=Big Pharma=lots and lots of money. Cha ching!
                This Princess Saved Herself

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                  To make it overly simplified. :H
                  This Princess Saved Herself

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                    And it frusterates me on a good day and really pisses me off on a bad one. I see sick people everyday who listen to this BS. They then pop their medications. Lipitor, something for hypertension (maybe a couple for that), insulin or an oral hypoglycemic agent to manage their Type 2 Diabetes. They get fatter most years. Some need open heart surgery or have a stroke. It's very sad.

                    I'll get off my :soapbox: now.

                    Have a good day everyone. :l
                    This Princess Saved Herself

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                        Now that's a food pyramid I can relate to! (Where are the peanut MnMs???)

                        And yep. It's a one-way ticket to obesity, diabetes and cholesterol issues. And medications, medications, medications.

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                          it's utter bullshit Stuck!
                          this is how i've been doing all my work over the last few years and it sucks. and i HOPE the drawings i did 2 or 3 months ago aren't the last ones i ever made. i hope and i know.
                          i read a quote today, of course i lost it whilst in my nonsense. something like

                          "it's through our wounds that we show our inner self and blablabla" (i'm probably the one that's making this sound like a sukker)

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                            Totally new to forum, sort of new to bac

                            I meant the food pyramid! Not Stuck's food pyramid. :H That one isn't very healthy either of course.

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                              Happy Thanksgiving to everyone (who happens to celebrate Thanksgiving, what with this being a worldwide forum and all, and given the complicated cultural/political history of the holiday, not to mention the legacy of U.S. imperialism that, honestly, is still a huge part of our foreign policy)!

                              Anyway, I know it's cheesy, but I'm incredibly thankful for all of you being here, and for the advice, wisdom, guidance, friendship, strength, kicks in the ass, etc. that you've all given me over these past six months. So thank YOU, and I hope it's a wonderful day filled with family and friends.

                              :l:l:l

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                                i'm thankful for you and the rest of you being here also Stuck.
                                i kind of like being in touch with your kind of silly seeming holidays (anyway, which holidays are not silly? we have "sinterklaas" over here in two weeks. kind a' silly, but can get to quite cozy situations none the less. it's not the item that counts, but the things it results in. something like that anyway, in my crooked english)

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