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    #16
    Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

    Hi Bruun,

    Bruunhilde;1318168 wrote: Hi Want,

    I think most people don't lose weight unless they're already fairly active physically. You definitely won't lose if you replace the sugar in alcohol with carbs/sugars of other types. As you know.

    I was thinking about this because I'm actually getting fatter again, fatter than a year ago and then I was drinking martinis every night. Right now I go on and off AL so I would think that in spite of the occasional Ben and Jerry's, I should be losing a few pounds. Not happening.

    I'm convinced its a metabolism thing. The AL screwed up our metabolisms. I went to an endo and they want to measure my cortisol among other things.

    I only have two months til my bday ... need to crush this! I eliminated dairy, grains, sugars, etc and didn't lose weight until I did HCG and even then it was slower than everyone I know. But after the HCG, I didn't keep active and it came back on because I drank again.

    How come some people can just eliminate the glass of wine or glass of milk daily and lose ten pounds in a couple months and we're sooooo far from being able to do that? Metabolism all F'd up.
    Here is the clue!

    Mark my words! This is the clue for weight loss!

    Monitor your blood sugar all the time!
    If it is below 100, you are losing weight!
    If it is above 120, you are gaining weight

    it is that simple!

    Don't eat sugar,
    Don't eat bread,
    Don't eat rice,
    Don't eat potato,
    Don't eat any kind of carbs except what is in veggies.
    Do not eat more than 20-25 net carbs a day!

    You will be rewarded!
    And I know it is hard, but that is the only way you can lose weight
    when you have your leptin (master hormone) messed up.

    Here are some of the best diets you can find on the internet:

    Dr. Rosedale: The best and healthiest!

    Welcome to Dr.Rosedale's Website

    Mark Sisson: Also very healthy.

    Mark's Daily Apple

    Paleo diet: Very good.

    Paleo Plan | Making the Paleo Diet Easier


    good luck!

    Brian

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      #17
      Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

      Tough for a chef with a love of food.

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        #18
        Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

        Hi Mollyka,

        mollyka;1319748 wrote: mmmmmmmmmmmm awful friggin limiting Could dump the sugar and the rice I s'pose - but spuds and bread never again??
        Anyways I eat shedloads of all the above and I lost 4-5 stone when I stopped drinking, and it just sort of stays off!
        Yes. It is tough on the long term, but if you really want to lose weight, I think you can do it for a month or two. Then if you go back on your regular diet, the cycle starts again.
        I actually prefer fasting. You can lose a lot of weight by water fasting and when you reach your target, you can slip up again!

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          #19
          Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

          Hi COSGringo,

          COSGringo;1319734 wrote: Tough for a chef with a love of food.
          Yes COSGringo,

          Tough for anybody!

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            #20
            Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

            So true!

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              #21
              Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

              Isnt fasting really bad for you, where are you getting your vitamins and everything else, plus doesnt your body go into starvation mode and start storing and clinging on to all it can get to keep you alive.

              The problem here for me is whats the big picture, my not drinking in a way that destroys me, my trying to sort out the other problems in my life or my trying to loose weight and in doing that starting obsessing about food, I think its part of my alcoholic mindset, if I cant have something then I want it more, I dont worry about cakes but when I cant eat them because I need to loose 2lbs in a week I start needing them and craving them.

              Feeling deprived makes me not well. Why are all the foods containing all those carbs called comfort foods, I think its because they do give comfort in some way.

              I have been thinking of the idea of giving up one thing, I cant actually work out what that is tho, I dont eat much chocolate, or bread, or rice or anything else of one thing. Today I had my green smoothie for breakfast, then my roast dinner with roast potatoes and then apple pie and custard. If I hadnt had the pie then it would have been rice pudding or something so no I dont think giving up one thing would work for me. And for supper I will have a milky drink. I dont want to change this because it is good for me to have three meals a day, it has taken me a while to do this I use to not eat until evening and then just have a huge meal, that was not good at all. I think apart from the weight what I have is ok for now, but I do think my meds are contributing to my weight gain and Im not going to mess with them.. If I did I could end up back at square one in the woods with a bottle of vodka.

              What I am trying to say is nearly everytime I have concentrated on loosing weight I have ended up on a bender, there is some connection somewhere and Im not prepared to risk it again.

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                #22
                Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                I am NOT losing weight.:upset: In fact, I have put on about 5 lbs. at least. I found this out Friday when I finally bought some batteries for my digital scale. I was already very overweight when I quit AL and I thought one benefit from quitting would be weight loss, but not so. That said, I have not limited my calories nor have I been exercising regularly. I planned to do that but had hoped to see some weight loss simply from not drinking a half gallon of liquor every night, lol. Turns out I was dead wrong.

                I know I could eliminate sugar, flour, carbs etc. and lose. Anyone could. It's too restricting for me, however, and not a long-term solution. I am resolved to start eating more healthy and start exercising...what would be most effective, I'm not sure. I don't plan to join a gym.

                Any tips besides stopping eating an entire food group or weight lifting and running every day, for us "normal" folks?


                "I like people too much or not at all."
                Sylvia Plath

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                  #23
                  Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                  Hi spacebebe01,

                  spacebebe01;1319868 wrote: Isnt fasting really bad for you, where are you getting your vitamins and everything else, plus doesnt your body go into starvation mode and start storing and clinging on to all it can get to keep you alive.

                  The problem here for me is whats the big picture, my not drinking in a way that destroys me, my trying to sort out the other problems in my life or my trying to loose weight and in doing that starting obsessing about food, I think its part of my alcoholic mindset, if I cant have something then I want it more, I dont worry about cakes but when I cant eat them because I need to loose 2lbs in a week I start needing them and craving them.

                  Feeling deprived makes me not well. Why are all the foods containing all those carbs called comfort foods, I think its because they do give comfort in some way.

                  I have been thinking of the idea of giving up one thing, I cant actually work out what that is tho, I dont eat much chocolate, or bread, or rice or anything else of one thing. Today I had my green smoothie for breakfast, then my roast dinner with roast potatoes and then apple pie and custard. If I hadnt had the pie then it would have been rice pudding or something so no I dont think giving up one thing would work for me. And for supper I will have a milky drink. I dont want to change this because it is good for me to have three meals a day, it has taken me a while to do this I use to not eat until evening and then just have a huge meal, that was not good at all. I think apart from the weight what I have is ok for now, but I do think my meds are contributing to my weight gain and Im not going to mess with them.. If I did I could end up back at square one in the woods with a bottle of vodka.

                  What I am trying to say is nearly everytime I have concentrated on loosing weight I have ended up on a bender, there is some connection somewhere and Im not prepared to risk it again.
                  To answer your question: NOPE!

                  Fasting is very, very beneficial for you. Why do you think almost all religion is incorporating some sort of fasting in their rules?
                  Also there are many, many cases in history when people got stranded after plane-crash
                  or ship wrack and found later to found out that all of them were in remarkable health.

                  It is because fasting is cleansing your body and also it gives a chance to your organs to
                  regenerate themselves.
                  There are lots of people who do 40 days fasting on water, sometimes more.
                  You can heal any diseases by fasting.There are many books on fasting and also many
                  clips on Youtube on 40 day waterfasting:

                  40 day water fast - YouTube

                  I understand that it is not for everybody. However if someone does not have a fear of
                  fasting, it is very rewarding.
                  You are correct. Your body goes to starvation mode and when you start eating it uses most of the food it can, but it still worth doing it.

                  In your case it is really not worth to worry about dieting. Pies are still 100% better than vodka.

                  Brian

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                    #24
                    Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                    Hi LibraryGirl,

                    LibraryGirl;1319869 wrote: I am NOT losing weight.:upset: In fact, I have put on about 5 lbs. at least. I found this out Friday when I finally bought some batteries for my digital scale. I was already very overweight when I quit AL and I thought one benefit from quitting would be weight loss, but not so. That said, I have not limited my calories nor have I been exercising regularly. I planned to do that but had hoped to see some weight loss simply from not drinking a half gallon of liquor every night, lol. Turns out I was dead wrong.

                    I know I could eliminate sugar, flour, carbs etc. and lose. Anyone could. It's too restricting for me, however, and not a long-term solution. I am resolved to start eating more healthy and start exercising...what would be most effective, I'm not sure. I don't plan to join a gym.

                    Any tips besides stopping eating an entire food group or weight lifting and running every day, for us "normal" folks?
                    I am not sure what would be easy, but I know what is not working. Exercising is very
                    inefficient way to lose weight. You can walk on the treadmill for hours burning only a few
                    hundred calories, then go home and eat those calories back up again and lose all the benefits.
                    That is why you see so many over weight people at the gyms.

                    There is also another approach to weight loss:

                    The Gabriel Method – Weight Loss Without Dieting

                    This guy lost 226 lb with his method and kept it off, however it did not work for me.
                    Try it. Maybe it works for you.

                    Good luck!

                    Brian

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                      #25
                      Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                      I really, really hope that anyone even considering fasting to lose weight look at the science and research about it. Not the websites selling stuff, promoting people, and promising miracles.

                      I bet most of us have had enough of that just trying to get to healthy, sustained sobriety!

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                        #26
                        Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                        Hi Ne,

                        Ne/Neva Eva;1320096 wrote: I really, really hope that anyone even considering fasting to lose weight look at the science and research about it. Not the websites selling stuff, promoting people, and promising miracles.

                        I bet most of us have had enough of that just trying to get to healthy, sustained sobriety!
                        I 100% agree with you!
                        Though I am not aware of any websites that is about fasting and trying to sell anything.
                        I have never ever seen one. That is the beauty of it. You don't need anything to fast.
                        And I am not trying to convince anybody to do fasting. It is an option that someone could consider. And if someone considering it, then definitely should read lots of lots of info on it.
                        Fasting is not starving. It is a healing method that people has been using for thousands of years.

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                          #27
                          Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                          I like Jon Gabriel. I like his story and his message and his (relatively) sensible approach. Eat healthy, whole foods...
                          But make no mistake, he is RICH because he sells stuff that promises miracles.

                          Forget about the book...presumably you can get that at the library, or used on Amazon. But wait! You'll need a whole host of support, information, supplements (because restrictive diets deprive your body of needed nutrition. Without which your very cells cannot function, much less reproduce) and all for the low, low price of $39.95. He guarantees it with a money back guarantee, but he also says that most results you see on his website are atypical, it doesn't work for everyone, and that he, "takes on faith the tens of thousands of people it has helped."
                          BILLING NOTICE: after 30 days, you will automatically be billed $39.95, the discounted regular membership rate. You can cancel anytime, including before or any time after the 30 day period.
                          FREE 4-Disk DVD Set ? Gabriel Method Weight Loss

                          STEP-by-STEP LIVE COACHING (6 Weeks)
                          Normal Price: $993 Save 50%

                          aaaah, but very sadly, when you try to sign up for this you'll find that they are...Sold Out!
                          https://www.thegabrielmethod.com/step-by-step/

                          No worries. You can always just order the supplements. He guarantees them. Sort of.

                          Gabriel Method Supplements


                          I understand that we'll have to agree to disagree, Brian. I guess I point this out not because I have any issue with you or what you decide to do. I point it out because it's on the meds threads on a forum dedicated to finding healthy sobriety.

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                            #28
                            Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                            And it's not just the Gabriel method. It's fasting too. It can be dangerous. It can be really devastating to overall long term health and well being.
                            Long term fasting is...a lifestyle choice, not a health choice.
                            Repeated short term fasting undermines the body's natural (and positive) way for maintaining healthy weight.

                            Exercise, on the other hand, gives long-lasting weight maintenance, improved health of every system in the body, a greatly reduced risk of just about every disease known to humans, is more effective than antidepressants for mental health and lends itself (almost magically!) to eating well.

                            And now that I've written all that, I think it's time I get my butt off the couch and out with the dog!
                            Power on, peeps!

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                              #29
                              Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                              There are a few things that happen when you quit alcohol that lead to weight gain:

                              1) Alcohol is a powerful diuretic, and stopping it leads to water retention

                              2) Alcohol and whatever "base" liquid, be it beer, mixers, is calorically dense and nutritionally void, and stopping it leads to a calorie deficit that people tend to fill with sugar and simple carbs

                              3) Alcohol is a powerful GI irritant leading to nausea, malabsorbtion, and hangovers lead to loss of appetite, so stopping the alcohol leads to more food intake, and better absorbtion of nutrients.

                              2 and 3 are the main ones that get people. I wouldn't recommend worrying too much about your diet until you have the sobriety well in hand.

                              I don't want to get into a big diet discussion, but I would encourage people to read "The Paleo Solution" by Robb Wolf before making any big decisions on diet alteration.

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                                #30
                                Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                                I definitely agree with point #3. Man my gut is sure different now compared to what it was when I was throwing them back. Amazing.

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