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    #46
    Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

    I have tried soy milk and it was revolting, not tried the silk tho, the think is I want something to put in my tea. Will try drinking more herbal tea instead.

    It is so difficult to sort out whats good and bad, and eat and feed my sons at the same time without having to take up armed robbery to pay for it all. The thing is really I think I know how to eat right, just eat unmessed with food, by that I mean I use frozen fish and veg so its not all fresh, and make as much of my meals myself, but even thats hard, time, energy, money and my sons wanting things like fish fingers and chips (our tea tonight lol).

    I did do the Atkins low carb diet for around 2 weeks before I went on my last bender DUH! and did feel good lost some weight and wasnt having cravings for carbs but Im sure all that meat and eggs wernt good for me and even if they were they cost too much and got really boring really quickly

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      #47
      Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

      I use non-dairy creamer in my coffee...also look for coconut milk. One brand that makes coconut milk creamer is So Delicious. It's not really all that delicious, but it's dairy free, fat free and low in calories, lol. Doesn't taste like coconut at all.


      "I like people too much or not at all."
      Sylvia Plath

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        #48
        Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

        Very interesting thread, thanks! I've been reading up to know and can say that I too is a bit lost as to what is good and bad anymore.

        I feel especially lost after I watched four season of a show called Penn and Teller's Bullshit. Penn & Teller: Bullshit! (TV Series 2003) - IMDb The subtitle is modern myths, piles higher and deeper. I would recommend it to anyone, as it really makes one think! Yes, the presenters are crass and can be assholes but some of what they have to say really makes sense.

        They have quite a few shows on the health food industry and obesity like this one "Penn & Teller: Bullshit!" Eat This! (TV episode 2003) - IMDb and its amazing how much we believe things just because major corporations or the FDA tells us to believe it.

        Personally I don't believe in the low fat hype. I think you will lose weight if you eat less fat but I think if you are messing up your health if you are eating loads of highly processed 'low-fat' products. For instance, fruits and veg are low fat, but low fat margerine is full of trans fatty acids, something your body doesn't even recognize as a food type (as far as I heard)

        Although I can't really afford buying organic and I think that some people are marketing the organic thing too much I do believe in buying local. And I have found that if you look hard enough there are quite a few co-op type websites in most areas now. This is a website in the UK The Co-operative - good for everyone (I just stumbled upon it and havent gone into it so please excuse me if its not as great as it appears at first sight) In fact, I think you'll do much better if you just google your local town and 'co-op' or 'buy local fresh produce' there should be some links there. You are after a small business in your area that buys fresh produce locally and delivers it on a weekly basis.

        I have an 'Ethical co-op' here in Cape Town that offers me a variety of organic and locally grown produce. They collect it from all the local farmers and then drop it off at a selection of drop-off points. You can either pay to have it delivered to your house (like the milk man of yore) or you can collect it for free at a set time each week)

        The products you'll find are usually around the same price as those you find in the supermarket BUT what you will find is that a huge sum of money has been taken from the middle mans pocket. This mean that more money goes towards the farmer to sell you good honest much better quality bio-dynamic or organic produce, or free-range meat for the same price as the plastic stuff you get in store. As the middle man only has to run a website and pick up and deliver stuff once a week (and have hardly and advertising budget vs the millions supermarkets spends on this plus what it spends on storage, wages etc) it seems to me that its a win-win situation to go back to old-school practices.

        I've bought some books on healthy eating today, will let you know if I find any jewels of wisdom.

        Have a good evening.
        :l

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          #49
          Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

          One more post!

          I want to post some links to websites that are in my humble opinion are the best and healthiest diets there are on earth!
          I've been studying nutrition for 6 years or so, and believe me I have spent 100s of hours reading books and websites.
          These are the best and healthiest diets that I can recommend to anyone:

          Dr. Rosedale: The best and healthiest!

          Welcome to Dr.Rosedale's Website

          Also an article from him:

          Dr. Rosedale: The High Carbohydrate Diet and Related Health Problems - presented by Dr. Bass

          Mark Sisson: Also very healthy!

          Mark's Daily Apple

          Paleo diet: Very good!

          Paleo Plan | Making the Paleo Diet Easier

          Dr. Robert Young: pH Miracle
          - very good book! (He is a vegetarian and sometimes seems to be too far out, but you can get good info from this)

          pH Miracle: Alkaline Health, Diet, and Nutritional Supplements like greens drink and water ionizers for weight loss, diabetes, cancer, and improved health.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT9gp-jXJdk[/video]]Robert O Young The pH Miracle Diet Video - YouTube

          The last one is very very important! You have to watch the pH balance of your body!


          Dr. Carey Reams was a close friend of Einstein.
          He said:
          "We don't live off the food that we eat, We live off The Energy IN the food we eat!!!"
          He wrote a book that sometimes sells for thousands of dollars: Choose Life or Death



          Quote from a website:

          Dr. Carey Reams
          :

          Dr. Carey Reams developed the Biological Theory of Ionization in the mid 1900’s. As a biochemist and a biophysicist, Dr. Reams was able to quantify human health in a seven number equation. Through trial and error, he was able to take a long complicated analysis of body chemistry, fine tune it, and carry it out to the lowest common denominator, which resulted in the simple analysis of the urine and saliva. He tested every bodily fluid, the blood, the hair, the stool, and eventually discovered that the urine and saliva test would give him all the information he needed to evaluate the body chemistry of someone looking for answers about regaining health.

          For years, he worked within the medical industry here in this country, analyzing the body chemistry of people that his doctor friends would send to him. Doctors of his day recognized the effectiveness of his “formula for health”. Dr. Reams had the uncanny ability to “know” what was wrong with a person by looking at their 7 numbers. In a two-year period in 1970 and 1971, Dr. Reams had about 25,000 people go through his retreat center on the East Coast. 10,000 of those people were terminally ill and had been sent to Dr. Reams as a last hope – their doctors had sent them home to die. Of those 10,000 people, all but 5 of them walked away with renewed health. It was after this, that the medical industry realized that this man and his formula for health could put them out of business so the persecution, ridicule, and even arrest for practicing medicine without a license started to take place.

          Dr. Reams premise was simple. He demonstrated that all disease is caused by mineral deficiencies and when a person remineralized, the symptoms of those diseases disappeared, and the remineralized person would no longer have that disease. It was so simple that the medical community of the day could not accept the fact that their drug, cut and burn way of treating people was the completely wrong way to treat disease. Their ego and pride took over and they drove Dr. Reams from his retreat center that was helping thousand’s of people regain their health and effectively shut down his amazing discovery.

          Dr. Reams understood how the body works. He also had a degree in Agronomy, so he knew the relationship of minerals to the health and nutritive quality of plants. From a very young age, he was able to grown fruits and vegetables that had an exceptionally high mineral content. He discovered that high mineral plants were not plagued by pests. This led to his discovery that high mineral people were not plagued by sickness or disease. Therefore, when he fed sick people high mineral food and a few mineral supplements, they got better – every single time! He was able to establish what mineral deficiencies were linked to what diseases and when his recommendations were followed, people got better.

          Through his research, Dr. Reams was able to establish the perfect body chemistry for a human body represented by seven different numbers taken from the analysis of the urine and saliva. It is an absolute that has never been disputed or proven wrong. Science has confirmed that these numbers portray an accurate picture of what is happening inside the body. Unfortunately, medical science is so encumbered with conflict of interests that they are not “allowed” to recognize the truth in the Reams Biological Theory of Ionization (RBTI). If they were to endorse the RBTI, more than half of all doctors and hospitals would be out of business.

          After he was silenced by the medical industry, Dr. Reams continued teaching his principles and methodologies. He had 100’s of students that regained health through his program and wanted to learn how to continue to help themselves and their loved ones with the principles of RBTI.

          End of quote.

          Finally one more website that you should pay attention too:

          It is from Dr. Andrew Saul

          DoctorYourself.com - Health, Naturally!

          DoctorYourself.com - Alcoholism

          depression

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZPRNTjrrbY[/video]]Nutritional Links to Depression and Mental Illness - YouTube







          Eat 80% raw veggies and be healthy!
          Avocado, Broccoli and Walnuts are the best!





          Good Luck to All!

          Brian
          ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

          PS:

          Bill Waterson quote:

          “God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die.”

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            #50
            Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

            Thank you for taking the time to post this, wantobesober. I'm going to check them out!

            LG


            "I like people too much or not at all."
            Sylvia Plath

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              #51
              Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

              Lots to think about on this thread. I've lost 60 or so pounds over the last two years. I'm now at an ideal weight. I think exercise helped, but the majority of my weight loss was diet. I first went on an antifungal/anticandida diet. This consists of nothing fermented (I stuck to that completely for about 10 days and even gave up the booze, but eventually went back to drinking while staying away from everything else fermented.), no sugar of any form including fruits at first, gluten, dairy, processed anything, and minimal grains. I lost 28 pounds in 12 weeks. Won the biggest loser contest in my job and got hundreds of dollars.

              Fast forward a couple of years. I have lost much more. Reduction in alcohol has helped, exercise has too. I think exercise is about 20-30% for me. I don't follow a strict anticandida diet anymore. I eat fermented things like vinegar. What I do is avoid gluten and sugar, eat minimal dairy, little processed food, and try to eat sustainably raised meat. I belong to a protein CSA where I get some of my meat from a farmer (20lbs of chicken, beef, and pork a month along with a couple a dozen eggs). The animals are fed and treated how they should be. That part is actually affordable. I pay about $90 dollars a month, and it's a decent start to feed myself and my family right.

              Bebe, I don't like soy milk and we don't drink it here. My family lives a dairy free/casein free lifestyle. My favorite is almond milk and one of my kids prefers rice milk. Really, dairy milk is for calves not people (or so I've read).

              One thing for everyone to consider, and this doesn't relate to fasting directly, is that caloric restriction is one of the proven factors to decrease aging and chronic disease. It's been studied and is currently being studied. It's said, it could add 5-10 years on to longevity (and one ages more gracefully). It's done by reducing ones daily calories by 30% give or take. It seems to be an almost accepted fact. Since very few people are willing to do this, researchers are looking at supplements and other things to make this work for more people. Resveratrol is one thing being studied that looks promising.
              This Princess Saved Herself

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                #52
                Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                spacebebe01;1321051 wrote: I have tried soy milk and it was revolting, Damn right, soy milk sucks arse. In fact, it's so revolting it both sucks and blows at the same time, which sounds a bit messy. I was vegan for 6 years and had to use soy milk in my tea...it put me off tea, goddammitt!!! And don't even think about putting it in coffee because it separates and looks like someone has blown chunks in your cup.

                redhead77;1321366 wrote:
                I don't follow a strict anticandida diet anymore.
                Happy to keep the thrush, huh? :H
                "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                  #53
                  Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                  Im thinking that once I am more stable with the drinking and in myself my body will hopefully start to right itself. I am going to carry on trying to put good stuff in like veg and stuff, but also try not to worry about it, I will just start obsessing again and I know I cant take anymore of that. Because I cant really do anything I cant get the good feeling from exercising, but hopefully my back will get better soon, I wish I could have a sunshine holiday and sit by a pool and go in the sea for two weeks. That would do the trick

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                    #54
                    Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                    Say what? Liverpool is on the coast and the weather is famously good there. It don't get no better than that, luv!:H

                    Your diet sounds good to me Bebe: fresh cooked rather than a box of frozen processed crap you just shove in the microwave. Plus lots of veggies. It'll stand you in good stead once you can start to exercise.
                    "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                      #55
                      Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                      I will get my cozzy on and go to the mersey for a loverley swim, If theve got wi fi in the hozzy I will let you know how it goes when Ive finished having my stomach pumped:H Urgg I used to go windsurfing in a dock until I noticed all the shit and eels and used jonnies and just uuurggg

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                        #56
                        Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                        I was just crying about this yesterday. I started dieting and exercising two months ago and gained ten pounds as of yesterday. I was reading like crazy after I weighed myself and found that it may have a lot to do with liver function being screwed up from the alcohol addiction. I have been drinking a liter of vodka a day the past five years at least, and at least half a liter five years prior. I eat almost nothing, but have gained about twenty pounds in ten years and another ten the past two months. I just got some Milk Thistle and a special amino acid preparation for liver repair and function, so I'm hoping these will help. My ex husband got sober four years ago and he said it took a good year and a half to lose twenty pounds. As far as diet, I'm on the Suzanne Somers diet which has helped me lose twenty pounds in the past and is more of a way of eating than a weight loss diet. It is a food combining way of eating and very easy to do once you learn what to eat at restaurants, etc. Just some simple guidelines. You can find all the info by googling Somersize diet.
                        "Everything goes upwards and outwards.
                        Nothing collapses."

                        -Walt Whitman

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                          #57
                          Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                          Ghostwriter;1325557 wrote: I eat almost nothing,
                          You need to eat for your body to function and heal from the years of drinking. I do find it hard to do and if we are limiting clories thn it would make sense that the less you eat the more weight you should loose, but it doesnt work that way.

                          I need to eat more regularly, I am finding it very hard to eat of a daytime, Im just not hungry so dont really understand why I keep putting on weight, but i do know that I need to eat more healithily and that means eating breakfast and lunch. a nice salad at lunchtime is delicious and good for us, gives us the energy and nutrients we need and I also read that egg at breakfast time is good and gives long lasting energy to set us up for the day.

                          So starting tomorrow I will have an omelette at breakfast time and a salad for lunch and see how I go. But I always say this and then wake up in the morning and cant be bothered with eating so just have my usual coffee and cigarettes instead

                          When I lived of a diet of vodka I lost weight but as soon as I cut out the vodka its like my body has gone into some kind of shock and is keeping all the food stores it can, maybe its preparing for another starvation which is basically what happens when I drink.

                          I also think the mads I take has a lot to do with it, but I cant just go cutting out meds that otherwise have me pretty stable right now. I will talk to my doc tho when I she her next month.

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                            #58
                            Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                            I've started counting calories, and boy is it tough! I feel like I'm doomed to fail, because I stay hungry. I gained so much weight over the last ten years...like 50+ lbs, and I was already at least 10 lbs heavier than I wanted to be then. I wish I had not let myself go for so long...I had the thinking when I was drinking daily that I had to eat, even if it was fattening stuff to keep from killing myself with the AL. LOL, just stopping drinking wasn't something I wanted to consider.


                            "I like people too much or not at all."
                            Sylvia Plath

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                              #59
                              Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                              I just had breakfast and am hoping to go low carb, that worked for m before and I know its something I can do.

                              Hi LG, I find counting calories hard as well because of being hungry. It is awful this weight issue, as if we dont have enough to worry about we get lumbered with this as well as drink But sorting the drink is the most important thing to do at first.

                              The best diet tip I know of is to try to eat loads of veggies the more the better because they are just so good for us, and to cut out carbs like bread, pasta in fact anything made from wheat because I find it hard to limit it so its too easy to eat too much of it and its not really good for me.

                              The only thing now tho is I used to have my green drink which was green powder mixed with fruit juice and frozen berries but I cant have that if I want to loose weight on low carb because of the juice and I do think it is good for me.

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                                #60
                                Weight loss after quit drinking!?...

                                Finally losing

                                I agree with the poster who said that alcohol changes your metabolism. I was drinking 2000 calories a day until May 5. When I stopped, I figured the weight would start falling off. Not so.

                                I really haven't made any other major lifestyle changes, but now, after 7 weeks, it's starting to come off to the tune of a pound every few days. I think it just took that long for my metabolism to adjust back to normal.

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