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**MusiciansMallet** · June 27, 2012, 04:48 PM

Comprehensive Urine Test and Baclofen

I take routine UAs for suboxone therapy & it doesn't show up (although i just started BAC therapy & have only had one urine analysis since starting). Baclofen is not included on the standard 5-panel SAMHSA test, nor the expanded, multi-panel SAMHSA tests. Even still, some doctor's (like mine) will specifically test for certain drugs (even beyond the expanded SAMHSA test) upon order- i have NEVER heard of baclofen being tested for.. although theoretically its possible; but doubtful since its not a drug of abuse.. Plus, since it is metabolized renally (kidney's) and not hepatically (liver)- i'm not even sure if it produces testable metabolites; although a portion of baclofen is excreted unchanged in the urine, so this could be tested for. Additionally, if only the "initial" test is done & not a follow up test; a false positive could possibly occur for other GABAergic drugs. But, in medical settings, nearly always a positive result is verified- meaning, they will test for presence of the specific drug-metabolite that caused the positive test using a full lab (rather than sticking pieces of reactive-paper into a cup of your urine)

But this is HIGHLY unlikely. If i were a betting man, i'd say w/ 98% confidence you'll be fine! Even if your doctor knows you abuse alcohol, baclofen use is rarely even heard of for treating alcohol, at least here in the US--if thats where you live (although its still rarely used for this purpose in Europe & Canada as well, aside from France, Germany, & to a lesser extent, the UK) ...Only problem I could foresee is if baclofen use is specifically suspected? Or if your doctor is smarter than most (again, assuming you're in the US) & is aware of baclofen's efficacy for alcohol dependency/addiction.

Good luck! Hope you post w/ the results!

**Ne/Neva Eva** · June 27, 2012, 08:23 PM

Comprehensive Urine Test and Baclofen

Poink;1341914 wrote:

Is she going to find out I am taking baclofen?
Nope. She won't. It doesn't show up. It isn't on the list, and it doesn't really affect anything else that might make her nervous. I've had several (four? five?) routine and specific blood tests on HDB. Everything is normal, except stuff completely unrelated--cholesterol and Vit D.

Poink;1341914 wrote: Surely there are people here doing baclofen who have had routine urine tests done by their GP. Did baclofen ever show up?

Thanks.

Yes. There were two people (that I recall) who were specifically tested for (illegal) drugs. And no, it didn't show up in those cases either.

**MusiciansMallet** · June 27, 2012, 08:37 PM

Comprehensive Urine Test and Baclofen

^^^As usual.... Thanks for saving the day N/N & stating the same info I did, but more concisely (and more easily readable & understandable!)... as I obviously have a problem doing this & w/ over-explaining everything, :H uggh, ohhh well!

**Poink** · June 28, 2012, 06:23 AM

Comprehensive Urine Test and Baclofen

Wow, you people are the best.

MM, thanks for the info. Feel a lot better now. Was ready to blow the appointment off and find new doctors.

And Ne...I always know I can count on you. Once again, thanks.

Might end up changing docs for different reasons, but really want to find out the results of the blood work.

Thanks to the two of you, I now have one less thing to panic over. It's a start.

**Ne/Neva Eva** · June 28, 2012, 06:42 AM

Comprehensive Urine Test and Baclofen

MusiciansMallet;1342095 wrote: ^^^As usual.... Thanks for saving the day N/N & stating the same info I did, but more concisely (and more easily readable & understandable!)... as I obviously have a problem doing this & w/ over-explaining everything, :H uggh, ohhh well!

:H
You just know a whole lot more about this stuff than I do! I go on and on and on (and on...) when I know...stuff.

Glad you're feeling better about it, Poink. One less thing is one less thing. There are enough things for that to make a difference! (Does that even make sense? whatev...)
Hope it's a good day for you both! And all to come, too.

**agassizii** · June 28, 2012, 08:20 PM

Comprehensive Urine Test and Baclofen

Ne/Neva Eva;1342091 wrote: Nope. She won't. It doesn't show up. It isn't on the list, and it doesn't really affect anything else that might make her nervous. I've had several (four? five?) routine and specific blood tests on HDB. Everything is normal, except stuff completely unrelated--cholesterol and Vit D.

That's interesting... I just got my blood work done and the doctors office called to say that my cholesterol was high and vitamin D was low. The cholesterol result was bogus because I wasn't fasting (and told them so) but I've never had an issue with low vitamin D before. We eat pretty healthy around here. I wonder if the bac causes a reduction in vitamin D or interferes with the test somehow.

I'm doing LDB at about 55 mg/day on week 10 or so.

Anyone else encounter this situation with low vitamin D after taking bac or is it just coincidence?

**COSGringo** · June 28, 2012, 10:13 PM

Comprehensive Urine Test and Baclofen

Coincidence most likely. Are you still drinking? How long have you been sober? Alcohol causes vitamin D deficiency. Take supplemental Vitamin D.
Probably take it 2-3x daily depending on the dosage. Just read the label. Eat fish here and there too when you can (cold water fish).
Also, Vitamin B complex and Vitamin C.
You could just get a good multi vitamin and a D supplement. It will cost more but if you can get a multi made from whole foods you will be better off. You will absorb it better.
They can get expensive but you are worth it.

Centrum and those supermarket vitamins just aren't as good but they are better than nothing.
Just my thoughts but research it if you don't believe me.
Nature Plus is good but expensive. There are others and some are cheaper. I am taking one now and I like so far. Not too bad on price. I wasted more on booze.

**Ne/Neva Eva** · June 29, 2012, 03:58 AM

Comprehensive Urine Test and Baclofen

agassizii;1342684 wrote: That's interesting... I just got my blood work done and the doctors office called to say that my cholesterol was high and vitamin D was low. The cholesterol result was bogus because I wasn't fasting (and told them so) but I've never had an issue with low vitamin D before. We eat pretty healthy around here. I wonder if the bac causes a reduction in vitamin D or interferes with the test somehow.

I'm doing LDB at about 55 mg/day on week 10 or so.

Anyone else encounter this situation with low vitamin D after taking bac or is it just coincidence?

Hi, Agassizii. It's very, very, very unlikely it's related to bac.
My cholesterol has always been high, and the last time I had it tested I was vegetarian for the previous six months. My weight is normal and I exercise(d) regularly. The biggest things, outside of diet and exercise, are smoking and (possibly) sugar--at least for high triglycerides.
Thanks, Dad!

Vitamin D only has one natural source--the sun. Every woman I know is vit D deficient. There was a recent report that it is a bit of an epidemic outside of the equatorial regions of the world. And of course, the farther north/south you live, the more likely you are to be deficient. It is almost impossible to get enough from food--marine vegetables like seaweed and fish. I posted the report in this thread:
https://www.mywayout.org/community/f6...ight=Vitamin+D

It is worth checking out the article because one of the conclusions was that recommended amounts for supplementation (the only way to get enough of it outside of the sun) is woefully under what we actually need. I take an awful lot of vitamin D just to get my numbers in the normal range. But I also wear sunscreen obsessively!

Good luck with getting the numbers under control!

**drinkingal** · June 29, 2012, 08:09 AM

Comprehensive Urine Test and Baclofen

Hi poink, I suspect the urine test was to see how your kidney function is, that's the most usual test urine samples are taken for so I don't think your doc was looking for anything else and some docs just like to do a kidney test as part of a physical.

agassi, vit d deficiency is becoming almost epidemic, it's felt that people have been scared to death about skin cancer so they avoid the sun, cover up, use too much sunscreen and the result is it's cropping up everywhere. I started having severe tiredness and leg cramps and was tested and mine was extremely low, when I said to my doctor is this common? (because I live in a sunny climate) she told me they are testing for vit d so much more now because it is becoming crazy common. Don't take any vit d on your own though, let the doc prescribe a dose for you based on your levels and then you need to get retested in a few months because you can overdose on it if you take too much so while you can buy it OTC, it's best to take it under doc supervision

**nonya** · July 1, 2012, 09:52 AM

Comprehensive Urine Test and Baclofen

what about finding topamax in a drug screening

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