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    Giving up....in a good way!

    What is spirulina? Green Superfoods? Maybe juicing is my thing...I am obvioulsy more comfortable drinking my calories than eating them!

    And getting rid of all those vitamin and supp bottles I have recently acquired would be good...and I have not even gotten the other 2 my doc told me to get yet...Why is eating healthy and vitamins so expensive??

    I feel like I am learning a new language with this getting healthy , and food and nutrition! Yikes! I need one of those yellow "Dummies" books for this!
    "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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      Hi Windy and Taw,

      Windy I just ordered an el-cheapo juicer for $50 on Amazon. Will advise if its worth $50. The only problem is it can't do citrus so I'll use the magic bullet to thrash some lime and stick it in the juicer after that. Hope that works because really wanting some lime in there. Should have bought some cilantro too, darn. I'm hoping to get it delivered tomorrow to avoid going to the juice place daily. My go-to mixture is something like spinach, ginger, lime, apple, beet, carrot. So I bought some of that there stuff today and thought about your comment Windy, the one about liking to drink? I agree, I'd much rather drink the juice than chomp on all that stuff all hour long.

      I don't know how people go on multiple day juice fasts tho. Seems more than I can do right now. I am doing half days, sort of. Well today maybe was a third juice.

      I have spiro tablets but not in any other form except All-in-one green version which might have it? Yes, it would be easier to fast Windy if there was protein. I'm having a boiled egg each AM and a protein shake at some point if needed.

      I wonder if this type of elixir is good for depression - thinking of Space here as well as us.

      Okay, overandout. Take care girlies.

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        Just wanted to say hi folks. Taw, you doc sounds like a keeper! I wonder if I would know of this doc. Anyway, I would love a juicer. Just like you, Windy, I don't want to spend the money on one. If anyone finds a reasonably priced one (or if the cheap one works, Bruun), please advise.
        This Princess Saved Herself

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          Hey Red! How was the family get together? Yeah, my doc is a new one and a keeper...haven't been to him...actually my parents go to him, and recommened him. He treats mainly older people, hence, my P's going to him, but actually took the time and listened, and for once I did not feel like a digenerate talking about my issues! And once I started, they all came pouring out!!

          My son is on vacation in Wis. this weekend at my ex's brothers. So I am alone this weekend again, and next weekend he will be with his dad. So, I have lots of time free. I know I need to shop for school supplies. and stuff for his surpise party next weekend. As of right this second, I think I am much more comfortable than I was last weekend. I hope it lasts...I think the main thing is to make sure I take my AB so there is no arguments between AL brain and Sober brain!! Oh and the gabapentin is helpful too! Sooo digging it for those extreme anxious times!!

          And Windy you are so right...everytime you fight a craving and don't give in, it gets a tad easier...Now someone remind me of this when I start to freakout this weekend!

          Have a good one all!! I will keep my eye out for good , inexpensive juicers!!!
          "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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            Hey all you potential juicing fanatics!! I just looked on Amazon....I found a BUNCH ranging from $30-$300.00 Now I know NOTHING about them...just looked a prices for new ones....not used, um gross!!!

            There ya have it! Back to cleaning my bosses office while he is golfing today!!
            "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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              Hey Taw et al

              Be careful of juicers: you get what you pay for. I had a cheapo juicer years ago and I had to spend hours cleaning the bloody thing.

              RE the gabapentin: It's the dog's bollocks! I love it. It is such an excellent mood enhancer. But with everything that produces a high it can be overused. The fact that it loses it's potency because of fast working tolerance should halt that in its tracks though.

              Anyhoo, just wanted to say hi!
              "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                Hey M! How's things?? Thanks for stopping by!!! Pop in anytime! We could use some laughs around these parts!!
                "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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                  El cheapo Braun from Amazon works well and a fast clean up. Lest it appear too good to be true, note it doesn't do citrus. I chopped up a lime in my magic bullet and dumped the resulting mash in the Braun then juiced a beet, carrots, ginger root, spinach. Very tasty but not a high volume juicier. Gorgeous colors in the pulp too.

                  I am hoping for a juice miracle ... like it will be the fountain of sobriety and youth! M did you get noticeable benefit when you did it?

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                    Bruunhilde;1359717 wrote: M did you get noticeable benefit when you did it?I'm sorry to say I haven't read back on the juicer discussion:blush:, so I'm not sure what benefits you're all looking for but benefits there most certainly were. It was a good dozen years ago I brought a book called "Super Juicing". The recipes were very interesting: different ones for alertness, energy, relaxation etc. What I actually found was they all gave me a major short-lived buzz and an all day feeling of happiness. But as I say, cleaning the thing was a pain in the arse, so I dumped it and just drank more booze instead. :upset:
                    taw;1359494 wrote:
                    Hey M! How's things?? Thanks for stopping by!!! Pop in anytime! We could use some laughs around these parts!!
                    Ahhhh, don't say that. Now you're pressuring me to be funny and I'll suffer from performance anxiety. I'll feel I'll never be able to meet your comedic expectations and my jokes will flop like my knob on HDB. Thank God for ciallis! I'm really good thanks Taw. Things are looking brighter everyday.

                    I shall try to keep up with the thread and keep an eye on you lot. You need watching!
                    "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                      It worked for Jack Lalanne. Then again, there's a guy sitting down at the bar 12+ hours a day who I recently learned is 96 years old.

                      Maybe you just have to say f--k it and pick one extreme or the other and go there?

                      Nah, I'd still put money on the juicing.

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                        My grandad used to drink a bottle of Glenfiddich in bed every night and smoke a bunch of fags. One night he was in bed with his bottle and a fag (not that sort of fag. Why oh why do I have to explain these things things to damn colonials?) when he set himself on fire. Mostly he would just fall asleep, pour the whisky on his pants and the fag would go out. But on one ocassion I remember my grandma dragging the old boy out of his room , and there was such a kerfuffle. He was all wet and stinky and smoldering. "Och yer dorty auld fool, looke wat yer done noo" said grandma.
                        "Aye ma, aye!" replied gramps with a twinkle in his eye (just visible in his soot stained face) "a shite meself agin. But don yer warry aboot tha fire cos I put it oot wi me tadger
                        ", he beamed.

                        The point of this story is .... ummm ... I forget. Oh yes, the old bugger looked a good 85 years old but I recently learned he was only 58 when he died.

                        The old boy at the bar may seem 95, SILA, but booze works wonders at aging the skin.

                        Note: If anyone needs the Highlands dialect translated, please hesitate to ask.
                        "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                          I will wait on the juicer until everyone has figured it out!!! I keep losing posts...I thought I posted this twice already today and nil....nothing there!

                          Altho it was right after my blood tests....dig this...12 hour fast...5 viles of blood....not sure how I drove home! The cig right after gave me a buzz like I have not had in 25 years!!!

                          Ok, major storm...lights flickering....back later!!
                          "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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                            I just got back from my walk, since it cooled off nicely after that storm and several things are on my mind. First, I really hope my blood test reveal what is wrong with me. I have NO energy since I quit drinking. I can easily sleep 12 hours on a Friday or Saturday. I did not sleep that much when I was drinking and passed out. It has been 3 weeks and it is not getting better. I am exercising, eating healthy, taking my vitamins and supps. I had more energy and felt better when I was drinking. Don't get me wrong, I love waking up not hung over but the rest of the day I feel so sluggish. I don't get the energy I got from booze from anything else. I know it will take time for my body to adjust. Next to being pregnant and my 28 days in rehab this is the longest I have been sober in 25 years. So I get it, really I do, just frustrating. I am doing all these things to feel better and I feel worse!

                            Another issue, and I am embarassed to even admit this, has to do with the AB. I think only I can take it for the wrong reasons. Yes it is keeping me sober. But as I noticed this morning since I did not take it right away because of my tests, it is keeping me, um, tmi warning, unblocked shall we say. So, feeling all icky and bloated today, realized what was or wasn't happening as the case was, I took the AB just for that reason! WTF!! So now, I feel like I should stop taking it so as not to lapse back into dangerous ED territory again! God, how am I so fucked up that I can turn this seeminly very helpful pill into something so screwed up as this? I know how screwed up my insides are from years of laxative abuse and DO NOT want to go there again!

                            I was fine at my weight when I was drinking...why now am I paranoid to gain any? So what my brain thinks if I can't drink, I can't eat? I don't want to be that chick again! I want to be sober and healthy and enjoy food and exercise!!!

                            My new AB got delivered earlier in the week and it is the effervesant kind. I am going to try that tomorrow and see if it is any easier on my stomach. Or maybe I will just start taking the AB everyother day. I wish they would come up with an injectable AB like Vivitrol, the injectable Nal.

                            Maybe I am just over tired. Had to get up way too early for a Saturday! Tomorrow is a new day!

                            Hope everyone had a good Saturday! :l
                            "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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                              Hi all just popping in to say I reckon I lost weight ( about 10 kgs all up ) on juicing diet cause (a) I was drinking lots of healthy wonderful stuff and (b) I worked up a sweat cleaning the juicer afterwards lol - and it wasn't cheap
                              Keep up the good work it's been n amazing read!
                              Cashy xx
                              "Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans" - John Lennon

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                                Cashy, that Pooh quote is awesome! How true...
                                Taw, I worry about venturing into ED territory myself. It's really just a different kind of addiction, isn't it? I guess we're just not good at finding balance. If you take half an AB every 2 or 3 days, you still shouldn't be able to drink. Effervescent AB? What's that? And I don't know if there's injectable AB, but they do make an implant.
                                3 weeks AF, right? That's fucking awesome. Isn't it amazing that you can say that's longest you've gone on your own (without pregnacy or rehab) in 25 years?!!
                                I hope you figure out what's up with your energy levels. I don't feel as "amazing" in sobriety as I thought I would either. I think some of it may be smoking for me.
                                Well, I'm really doing a terrible job putting my thoughts into words right now. Maybe I'm tired. Maybe the low sodium V8 I drank (so I wouldn't be hungry) is battling it out with the tiramisu I gobbled (because I was still hungry) in my stomach.
                                Whatevs. You're doing a great job, Taw!
                                Good to see you, M!
                                "Yet someday this will have an end
                                All choices made or choice resigned,
                                And in your face the literal eye
                                Trace little of your history,
                                Nor ever piece the tale entire
                                Of villages that had to burn
                                And playgrounds of the will destroyed
                                Before you could be safe from time
                                And gather in your brow and air
                                The stillness of antiquity."

                                From "At Majority" by Adrienne Rich

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