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[BillF]

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windycitylady;1369031 wrote: Alright, Bill. You've convinced me. I'm throwing out all my bac.
One thing I'm unclear on. You passionately rail against bac, meds in general, supplements, and AA. So what DOES work? Because, I mean, you've obviously got this shit figured out. I would love to be as sane and happy as you.

I didn't say that bac doesn't work. I didn't railed against any treatment, certainly not passionately. You prob. mixed me up with others. Oh well.
Maybe HDB works. But as currently construed, it is not amenable to scientific study.

What does work? Nothing works well so far, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion. Meds hold the biggest promise, but all the ones tried so far only work weakly, not at all, or are unproven.

[BillF]

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windycitylady;1369031 wrote: Alright, Bill. You've convinced me. I'm throwing out all my bac.
One thing I'm unclear on. You passionately rail against bac, meds in general, supplements, and AA. So what DOES work? Because, I mean, you've obviously got this shit figured out. I would love to be as sane and happy as you.

I know you are being sarcastic, but it is not a good idea to stop bac cold-turkey.

[COSGringo]

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Careful all, this boards a mess. You have a serious lurker on here now.

I am dropping off it for the most part for now. I have my own issues figure out well enough, ha!

[spacebebe01]

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BillF;1370103 wrote: .. Meds hold the biggest promise,.

Yes Bill they do, and for some of us they are working way better than anything else, I dont need any other proof than seeing myself not drunk every day

[COSGringo]

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Well desp, I travel a lot. Love to meet you in person. I really wonder about you, I have my guesses.
My life is full and busy lately.

Too bad you seem like a very unhappy individual. Much like some guy in Bangalore who keeps calling here about fixing my roof. Well we can all change monikers and such. We will still be the same people.

PM me if you want to hang out some time and see who we really are. I hold no grudges.

We should all do a meet and greet some time. I am up for most global locations.

[YouKayBee]

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My experience, yes withdrawl from Bac is very real however it depends just how long you've been on it. When I tried HDB I took it daily for approximately 3 months getting up to around 180mg although there were days when just for the hell of it I popped extra pills. I stayed around 180 for a fair few weeks if I remember rightly, perhaps 1 month or so. There were one of two days during this when I simply couldn't stomach any more of it and dropped to 100mg for a day without issues. When I finally stopped Bac I titrated fairly rapidly down to 100mg within 24 hours (because I knew I'd had the odd day at this level without any problems), then dropped further. By the 4th day of dropping (think this was at 60mg so still not a zero) I had a funny feeling in the pit of my stomach as if I was about to have a funny turn or something so popped an extra 5 (or maybe 10) just to get me over it. It worked and the next day I was able to drop further. Ended up down to using 20mg at night for sleep, then dropped that altogether.

The risk of withdrawl is there, but it's not as scary as it may appear especially if you've only been using it for say a few months. I wouldn't however advocate dropping from 300 to zero, if use hasn't been that long a drop of 50 or 100 in a day may not have that much effect, just keep a few pills to hand just in case.

In case anyone is interested, SEs(which were terrible for me) took a further 3-4 days to clear completely once I'd got to 20mg.

[gratitude]

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UK,
how's it going over in TSM land? haven't seen you in awhile. welcome back.:welcome:

[COSGringo]

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I throw down with the best of them. I am from Philly originally ya know.

Don't expect to get treated any better than how you treat others in this world.

It's not tough to talk around someone with a room temperature I.Q.

[keenegear89]

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Can someone please give me Dr. Fred Levin email? I'm going thru baofen withdrawal and I called him but he had an emergency and couldn't talk. He said email him. I'm sweating, shaking and very paroniod! Is that withdrawal? Do I take more? And how much?

[keenegear89]

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Can someone please give me Dr. Fred Levin email? I'm going thru baofen withdrawal and I called him but he had an emergency and couldn't talk. He said email him.

[StuckinLA]

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I was not aware he even had an email. And I just checked his university faculty profile page and there isn't one listed there.

Which phone numbers do you have? PM me and I'll give you what I've got: home, office, cell.

[ifulovelife2]

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[StuckinLA]

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I guess I'm still trying to, so yes? Unlike several others. Not sure where I'm seeing a difference though...

[StuckinLA]

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All that stuff you're telling me in PMs needs to be put on here. And you need to have a plan and stick to a dose. Because it sounds like what you're doing is a recipe for disaster.

Seriously.

I cannot, and will not, be the sole support for you or anyone else. Not only does this make me extremely uncomfortable, and make me feel responsible, but I don't freaking know anything. Read my damned thread, how much I do not know is right there.

This is more for everybody: I'm happy to share my limited experience, but I'm not some kind of guru.

[keenegear89]

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I spoke to Dr. Levin yesterday about my anxiety problems and told him I've been taking extra to combat it. He said that is okay, you will find your dosing have a good night sleep, bye bye. WTF? It just doesn?t seem right to me, to be taking different doses day to day like this!

I really hope you folks, can help me out! I am in a huge basket case right now!

I was trying my hardest to stay at 300mg but I was having such wide mood swings!

Here is my mood swing just in one day a couple days ago.

Morning: I had the worst depression I have ever had in my entire life! I looked in the mirror and saw the most ugliest person ever. It was so weird! I thought my face was drooping like an old mans face! I walked around all morning with my head down, thinking about ever sucidal thought to man kind! I am surprised I didn?t end my life. I did learn what a depressed person had to go through and it really sucks!

Afternoon: I felt the best I have ever felt in my life! I was walking around talking to every lady, I saw and was loving life! Which is weird for me because I have major social anxiety problems. I thought, I was the hottest guy in the world. I get very delusinal and think everthing is going to be ok and my bac problem was just in my head!

The evening: It was terrifying! I went to go get beer and as I was walking out the liquor store a cop near by turned his siren on and it was instant panic attack! I started shaking! Sweat poured off my body! My heart rate must have been 200! My blood pressure probably was 300/200! I felt like I was going to fall over in convulsions! I then went into the woods, chugged 10 beers in under 15 minutes! Took 200mg of bac! And all that never did subsided my anxiety! I just laid in bed sweating listening to my heart going crazy! It went on into the next morning at work!

3 weeks ago,one night, I overdosed, drank a bunch, got completely nude, ran around the neighborhood, ripping up neighbors flowers and got arrested! Now due to that, I have been kicked out of my mothers house and living at my fathers small apartment and it is very stressful! He is a hoarder and I cant move anywhere. I knock shit over all the time, he wakes up, he fallows me around and then he stares at me lecturing me about every little thing he can think about. He tells me, I better not be taking those pills and drinking beer all night, I hear that lecture every damn morning! I have to hide my bac a mile away, in woods because he will just throw them out! My mom has already thrown one batch out when I did the nude thing, went threw some withdrawal and thank god you guys help me find Levin! He wont stop putting ketchup and mustard on my fuckin eggs! I cant leave my dads nasty apartment to smoke because he thinks I will go run around naked so I just lay in bed staring at the wall.

My life is crashing down fast! My beautiful loving girlfriend of 8 years has left me for good this time! I am about to loose my job because I cant work worth shit! I have to get a court ordered chemical assessment for my 4th dwi and I have to keep delaying it because I am fearful, if I go in there looking the way I do they will throw me in an impatient facility. I have 365 days of jail over my head and I have to worry about pissing off my probation officer, every day! I cant get caught drinking any alcohol and that?s all I do now, in my new home the woods because I cant fuckin stand my dad! I feel like I am going to murder his ass one day! I lost my car and license because of the dwi so I got to take buses ever where!

I am very constipated! I haven?t pooped in 3 days and it is starting to hurt bad!

I really need help! Some times I think I might have to check myself into the e.r. and just go through the seizures and the risk loss of life because this stuff is going to kill me anyways!

I have already this morning had to take 200mg to just stop the shaking and the horrible anxiety and finally feel pretty good!

Can someone please tell me how I can fix this! I'm starting to wonder if this is even fixable! Please help me and tell me there?s a way! I cant continue life like this any longer! I just wanted to stop drinking!!!!!