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    moglor - bac on track

    Hi Everybody!

    I've certainly had my share of ups and downs on bac. As anyone who has read my thread "My Baclofen Experience"in its entirety will know, I have a lot of issues with depression, and these usually end up derailing me.

    I enjoyed significant success with bac when I started in May 2010. I was sober for about 7 months from October 2010 to May 2011. I don't recall exactly what set me off, but I sunk into a terrible depression, and started drinking again. Part of the problem was that I had tapered down the bac too much, too soon.

    I ramped "bac" up, and enjoyed another few months of sobriety here and there, but the constant battle with depression kept finding me back in the bottle.

    In August of this year (2012) I found myself so far down the well of despair that I was drinking a 750mL of vodka daily. I had stopped eating, stopped exercising, and I was in a considerable amount of pain, both physically and emotionally. I got to a point where I was waking up in the middle of the night with a mouth full of puke. I don't think I would have lasted another week, and I didn't really care.

    I had ordered 10 boxes of bac a couple weeks earlier, and when they finally arrived, I decided enough was enough, and ramped up fast and hard. Having been on bac for 2 years, I knew what I could handle, and I'd been around 200/day for awhile. I also knew that this was my last chance.

    Serendipitously, I received some news that turned out to be life-altering. I regret that I cannot share it publically, as it would be too personally identifying, but it has truly given me purpose in life, something I haven't had in 30 years. I may share this in PM to some of the folks who have been with me here since day one, if you are interested.

    All of this combined gives me the strength to fight the depression and the alcoholism.

    I ramped up to 375 in short order, and touched 425 a couple times. It was at this point that I finally managed to hit the Actual Switch last Sunday. I had gone out and bought a case of beer and a bottle of gin, having drank about 22 beers the previous night. I opened the first beer, took one sip, and realized I didn't have the slightest interest in drinking the rest of it.

    I just left it on my desk and did something else.

    The next 4 days are a blur. I went through some major detox/withdrawal. I had the shakes, sweating, severe nausea. I was so wired up I thought I was going to have a stroke. My hands turned yellow on Wednesday, but fortunately returned to normal by Thursday.

    I think the only thing that prevented me from landing in the hospital or the morgue with DTs was the fact that Baclofen works similar to benzos in staving off acute withdrawal symptoms.

    It has now been 1 week, and I am feeling a lot better. I am eating again, I am sleeping again. I am at 375/day bac, and I am once again hopeful for the future.

    Best,
    Moglor

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    moglor - bac on track

    Way to go, Moglor! The thing about bac is that it doesn't remove the reasons we drank in the first place, like devastating depression. I understand this news that you've received has made a big difference in your mood, but any plans to look into antidepressants?
    I was off ADs for years before I found what works for me. 50mg/day of bac for cravings and anxiety, 1200mg/day gabapentin for depression and anxiety. I'm not "cured", but the world is a different place for me these days.
    Best of luck to you whatever you decide to do. And congrats on your good news and sobriety!
    "Yet someday this will have an end
    All choices made or choice resigned,
    And in your face the literal eye
    Trace little of your history,
    Nor ever piece the tale entire
    Of villages that had to burn
    And playgrounds of the will destroyed
    Before you could be safe from time
    And gather in your brow and air
    The stillness of antiquity."

    From "At Majority" by Adrienne Rich

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      moglor - bac on track

      Hi Moglor,

      Congrats! I'm not sure if you had a chance to read Al Fiend's thread, but I think I may have come off as snarky. I wasn't trying to be. I'm thrilled you've found your way out. You've been through a lot and you've tried like hell. I can't imagine that I could ever tolerate 375 mg of bac, let alone 425. This is why I wondered about your experience with Nal. My questioning was out of curiosity.

      I know that each and every time you stop drinking, you get severly depressed. Here's to hoping that won't happen this time. But if it does, like Windy asked, have you thought to go on an AD?

      I hope things are still going well. Are they?
      This Princess Saved Herself

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        moglor - bac on track

        No snark detected here.. Each time I go AF I tend to find that I lack purpose in life, or any particular "reason" to stay sober. I feel like I have a reason now. If I start feeling like I'm headed down a dark hole, I will definitely lean on ADs as necessary.

        I've learned a LOT about myself, my psychology, and the way my body, diet, etc., affects both my moods and my drinking. Regardless of baclofen's ultimate efficacy, I feel like the spiritual and introspective journey and experimentation have placed me in a unique position to finally overcome and conquer my issues.

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          moglor - bac on track

          Hi Mog! I am SO happy to hear from you again. I'm reading as much as I can, but have had very little time to post. Just popping in to say "Rock On!" It takes what it takes . . . and for those of us who have been at this for a while, what it takes is sometimes quite a surprise.

          I'll be back when I have more time. Thanks for making your way bac!!!
          "Wherever you are is the entry point." --Kabir

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            moglor - bac on track

            Two weeks sober today, feeling pretty good. Lots of triggers to deal with, the usual loneliness/boredom, but I'm working through it. I have my mind and my heart set on my goals, and that is keeping me sane and steady. Never in my life have I had the possibility of such an important goal, and it truly has been a miracle in terms of motivation to improve myself and my surroundings.

            My biggest concern right now is keeping up on my bac dosage! When I'm sober and busy on the weekends, it's really tough to remember to take my regular dose. When I'm drinking, or shortly after quitting, it's much easier, because it seems so important to get those bac levels up. This is the danger zone for me, because when I'm clean, I feel like I don't really "need" it.

            Same issue people on psych meds go through.. "I feel fine, why should I keep taking this crap that makes me feel bad?"

            Still at 375/day. No cravings to speak of.

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              moglor - bac on track

              Hi Moglor:

              Thank you so much for your post. That meant a lot to me. I suffer bi polar which can derail me in a heart beat.

              You are completely right: it is our personal Purpose, our goal...our Eyes on the Prize, if you will that keeps us going.

              As for feeling good, going off the meds...My doctor just looks at me and smiles when I ask him...' So, do you really think I'm Bi-Polar? Maybe there's been a mistake... He's very kind. Just shakes his head and says" No. I really don't think there's been, a mistake.

              Hugs and love,
              :l
              On My Own Way Out Since May 20, 2012
              *If you think poorly of yourself, you can fail with a clear conscience.
              https://www.mywayout.org/community/f11/tool-box-27556.html tool box
              https://www.mywayout.org/community/f19/newbies-nest-30074.html newbie nest

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                moglor - bac on track

                Dear Mog: Maybe a long-ago tip from Ne is appropriate here. Buy a bunch of those cute little-zip-lock baggies, sit down, count out what number of pills, when, and write that on each baggie. Then, take accordingly.

                I know, I know,it sounds extreme and time-consuming. But if you just do it once, for say, a week, you will KNOW when and what you have taken. If you want to add or subtract as you go along, at least you'll know what you are adding or subtracting to!!

                You know I'm on your side!! Onward!
                "Wherever you are is the entry point." --Kabir

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                  moglor - bac on track

                  I like the medicication pill boxes from the drugstore. Don't know why I prefer to feel elderly rather than like an addict. But they're cheap, reusable, and I think even easier than baggies.

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