Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

[joanna_d]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

joanna_d;1521447 wrote:
and i'm still fine, though swallowing my pride at the moment.

:H this is what a few glasses bring on. drama.
just swallowing a pill more would be quite sufficient i think.

bleep: yep! nice and clearly put. thanks.

[Xadrian]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

Yesterday I was in a really bad mood. A mood like the first one that would give me a friendly smile would get it. I was not able to work (I'm self-employed).

I bought 12 cans of beer and drank 10 (between 5 PM and 11 PM).
They did not taste like they used to do, but stil not nasty.
It did gave me a buzz, but no drunk feeling.

Anyway, it calmed me down and the mood is better today.
No distinct hangover signs, but I have never been a hangover guy.

Now that the poisonous "medicine" (the alcohol, of course, not the bac) did it's job, I hope I can go a long time without. We will see.

[caro]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

Dear Xadrian,

I really hope you can go a long time too without booze. I just wanted to offer some support .

Good luck

Caro

[spiritwolf333]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

Xadrian;1521863 wrote: Yesterday I was in a really bad mood. A mood like the first one that would give me a friendly smile would get it. I was not able to work (I'm self-employed).

I bought 12 cans of beer and drank 10 (between 5 PM and 11 PM).
They did not taste like they used to do, but stil not nasty.
It did gave me a buzz, but no drunk feeling.

Anyway, it calmed me down and the mood is better today.
No distinct hangover signs, but I have never been a hangover guy.

Now that the poisonous "medicine" (the alcohol, of course, not the bac) did it's job, I hope I can go a long time without. We will see.

Hi X - sounds like progress to me. I was not a big hangover person myself (I may have kept enough in my system 24/7). However, after my last alcohol experiment, I encountered a slight bit of depression on day two following the experiment. Don't know if the al had anything to do with but the depression reared its ugly head. At this point, I just want to stick with my baclofen and not side rail my self again. But I am glad I tried the experiment. Sounds like you are glad you tried yours as well.

[Xadrian]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

Having the prior knowledge of where my switch dose is and where to find my maintenance dose due to the fact this is the second time on bac, after I derailed tapering completely off, I have done some experimenting on myself to see if I can fine-tune the division of the doses to minimize SE's, which in my case (I'm lucky to have the switch at a relative low day dose of 90 mg.) is sleepiness in the early afternoon.

For 10 days I have been taking my 90 mg day dose in 30-20-40 at wake-up, around 2PM and before going to bed.
I haven't had the sleepy dip around 2PM ever since, so I could say the experiment was a success.

But now very often I get sleepy at 10PM. The same kind of experience Colin had, who's by the way at the same sort of division of his daily dose (50-25-0-75).

Anyway, this seems to work for me, so if anyone is having severe or less severe SE's in the daytime, they could try a division of the daily dose of roughly 30%- 20%- 50% and see if they get benefits from that.

From tomorrow on, I will try 20-20-50 (roughly 25%- 25%- 50%) to see if and how that works.
I will keep you posted.

[Xadrian]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

Yesterday I had to fill in an application for a life insurance and of course one of the questions was if I was on medication and wherefore.
Since they will check my medical file anyway, I mentioned the baclofen.

Then I struggled what to write down where I used it fore. Should I write down "for alcohol indifference"? Neh. Or mayby :"alcohol withdrawal"? Nope, that wouldn't be a correct answer either.

So what I finally wrote down was: "for eliminating alcohol cravings". And that's what baclofen does.

Let's see if they make a problem about it.


So far doing fine at 20-20-50. No SE's in the day time, not that I know of in the night (I'm sleeping most of it).

[spiritwolf333]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

Xadrian;1524172 wrote: Yesterday I had to fill in an application for a life insurance and of course one of the questions was if I was on medication and wherefore.
Since they will check my medical file anyway, I mentioned the baclofen.

Then I struggled what to write down where I used it fore. Should I write down "for alcohol indifference"? Neh. Or mayby :"alcohol withdrawal"? Nope, that wouldn't be a correct answer either.

So what I finally wrote down was: "for eliminating alcohol cravings". And that's what baclofen does.

Let's see if they make a problem about it.


So far doing fine at 20-20-50. No SE's in the day time, not that I know of in the night (I'm sleeping most of it).

Sounds like you like to be truthful. Don't you have some muscle twitches or spastic movements as well? What the hell, I will be curios as to what they say -please keep us posted.

[Xadrian]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

While having no SE's during the daytime anymore while at 20-20-50, for the last 2 days I woke up very drowsy, like having a hangover.
Guess the 50 in before sleep is a bit too much (although it could be the flu that I -again- have for the last week)

Anyway, I will go back to the 30-20-40, which also worked well.
I will stay there for another week or so, after which I will taper down with 10 mg, which I probably will deduct from the morning dose.

[bleep]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

Playing with the timing definitely bears fruit in the beginning. You should find that after some time, it makes less of a difference. What really matters is the overall daily dose.

[Xadrian]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

bleep;1525107 wrote: Playing with the timing definitely bears fruit in the beginning. You should find that after some time, it makes less of a difference. What really matters is the overall daily dose.

I already figured that out, but I'm trying to diminish the SE's in the daytime by decreasing the doses in the morning and afternoon and increasing a bit before sleep.

[Xadrian]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

I took off 10 mgs a little sooner than I originally planned, but I thought July 1 was a good day, because I can remember it better.

So, from Monday on, I'm at 80 mgs. I take it 20-20-40.

Yesterday and today also, I was feeling very fine. Not euphoric or something, but just fine. Optimistic.
If I could feel like this for the rest of my life, it would be quite acceptable.

Today I had to fill in an alcohol qeustionnaire for the life insurance I applicated for.
It was strange to see me write down that before baclofen I used to drink 24 cans of beer per week and now 5-8 cans per month.
It also was quite amazing that I couldn't remember the date on which I drank last time. Not because of amnesia, but because it was already a few weeks ago.

Anyway, they also wanted a doctor's report, so next week I have an appointment with my GP.

[Lo0p]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

Lie! Don't admit to drinking as much as you did. Alcoholism on your medical record is an automatic denial for life insurance. I used to be a licensed life insurance salesman (when I was an alcoholic :H)

Lie like a fugging Wall Street Executive. Do not tell the truth! There is a real entity called the Medical Information Bureau (MIB, I shit you not) that life insurance companies pay for where they collect and store information exactly like this to raise your rates.

In the case of alcoholism there is no rating, it's a straight up automatic denial from every single company forever.

[Lo0p]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

Well... I don't know about in Aruba... But I still think that you should definitely lie.

[Xadrian]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

Lo0p;1528250 wrote: Lie! Don't admit to drinking as much as you did. Alcoholism on your medical record is an automatic denial for life insurance.

We will see. They will ask for my medical files anyway, so it will come up.
Maybe they will exclude alcohol related diseases. Could be.

I'm symptom free, so I'm not going to lie about it.
It would be too late anyway, because I already filled in the paper.

[Rutru]

Xadrian's Baclofen Experience

thankyou

Thank you for sharing your experience with Bac. I am trying to decide whether to use that or topomax. Can you or anyone tell me if you had weight gain/loss with Bac? hair loss?
:thanks: