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    Success story with low dose baclofen (30 mg)

    Recently I have seen one of my severely alcoholic friends change his drinking pattern from hopeless uncontrolled bingeing to almost a controlled style of drinking, and I thought it could be helpful to post his story here.

    This guy has been drinking in a dependent and excessive way, on a daily basis, for the last 12 years. He began drinking as an escape from anxiety and depression, after trying numerous antidepressants, therapy, and counselling. He also tried Campral and underwent 3 medicated inpatient detoxes, and is now taking Lexapro and Seroquel for his psychological issues. After all these steps however, his drinking remained almost hopeless, with a daily intake of at least 14 standard drinks and binges consisting of 20-30 standard drinks followed by a whole day recovering from this massive intake. Despite his medications, ongoing counselling, and problems caused by drinking, the drinking continued unabated and he had reached a stage of no longer being in touch with his family.

    A couple of months ago my friend read about baclofen, and we had also spoken about it on various occasions. He took some printed information about it to his doctor, who is a general practicioner, and after reading the information the doctor prescribed him 5 mg 3 times a day, to be increased very slowly to 10 mg 3 times a day. My friend kept drinking as usual but started the baclofen, and found that even the 15 mg per day had a mild effect on his thoughts and feelings about alcohol, although not enough to cause much reduction. However, to his surprise and also mine, after about 1.5-2 months, he is now finding he has a much reduced desire to binge and doesn't always want to drink heavily after he starts drinking. This is a person who both of us thought was doomed to hopeless alcoholism and a slow death from drinking. I am literally amazed at the change that such a low dose of baclofen has brought about.

    I know that this result will not happen for everyone, and from what I have read here most people will need a much higher dose, but I thought this story worth printing here. There is no other explanation for this guy's drastic change in drinking habit or attitude, and I would rule out placebo effect because he wasn't hopeful about the drug helping him. He mentions he doesn't get the runaway alcohol desire once he starts drinking now, which I imagine is probably a reduced dopamine hit from drinking (although most things I have read about baclofen don't specifically talk about it having this exact effect).

    My friend has further stated that, based on his experience of 30 mg per day, he thinks he would be completely indifferent to alcohol if he was taking 60-80 mg per day. However he is happy with his results so far. He did say that it took some time at his current dose for the effect to really kick in, so the length of time of being on baclofen daily may be a contributing factor here.

    #2
    Success story with low dose baclofen (30 mg)

    Thank You Greg for encouraging story about your friend, You just added to my hope... I am looking forward to start on it pretty soon. How much your friend weighed? and Did he have side effects on his sex life?

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      #3
      Success story with low dose baclofen (30 mg)

      Greg,

      Thank you for posting his story. That is wonderful news!

      I started at 30 mg of Baclofen and then went to 90 for a short time. My AL intake was not as severe as your friend's but an immediate effect for me was that my AL consumption dramatically decreased as I reached indifference at 90 mg. I've been on a maintenance dose of 30 mg. for the last 1.5 years. Baclofen resolved the issue of why I drink....an anxiety disorder that I've had since I was 4 years old. I'm 51 now, and Baclofen has been the answer for me....how I wish I could have been on it years ago.

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        Success story with low dose baclofen (30 mg)

        Redcat,

        My friend is fairly light in weight, around 60 kg I think (that's around 130 pounds). He hasn't mentioned any effect of baclofen on sexual function, but at only 30 mg per day it may not have that much effect this way.

        Rusty,

        I'm glad to hear bac helped you cut down and become indifferent, while still at a low dose compared to the doses used by most people on this forum. My friend was drinking largely due to anxiety, and he is happy at being able to drink a greatly reduced amount even though he hasn't totally quit. This guy was dying in front of my eyes, and was so drunk/hungover that he wouldn't even answer his door or his phone for 2-3 days at a time and had cut all ties to his family. It's like watching someone come back from the dead, in fact he was virtually a living dead man. We have another friend who is also like this, who we are hoping to introduce to baclofen with his doctor's co-operation. Like yourself, I wish an answer had existed years ago, as I am now 45 and my mate is 39....it's sad to think of all the wasted years, but I guess at least we are still alive whereas many others have died. In my younger years, all I heard from everyone was AA, CBT, and SSRI antidepressants, none of which worked...

        (Edit : Although AA, CBT, and SSRIs didn't help me or my friend for many years, I should have added that these things can and do work for others, and Lexapro/escitalopram does now seem to be helping my friend's mood)

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          #5
          Success story with low dose baclofen (30 mg)

          That's so great, Greg! yay!

          Would you put something on this thread so that others can find some encouragement?

          https://www.mywayout.org/community/f2...fen-47958.html

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            #6
            Success story with low dose baclofen (30 mg)

            Hi Ne, I never doubted bac's ability to do this, but it has still been remarkable to see it first-hand. Well, I have actually seen it with myself during my low-dose use of the drug, but this particular person was gone for all money just a month ago.

            I'll repost the story on that thread as you asked. I share your hope that it will help others.

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              #7
              Success story with low dose baclofen (30 mg)

              Greg;1393130 wrote: Recently I have seen one of my severely alcoholic friends change his drinking pattern from hopeless uncontrolled bingeing to almost a controlled style of drinking, and I thought it could be helpful to post his story here.

              This guy has been drinking in a dependent and excessive way, on a daily basis, for the last 12 years. He began drinking as an escape from anxiety and depression, after trying numerous antidepressants, therapy, and counselling. He also tried Campral and underwent 3 medicated inpatient detoxes, and is now taking Lexapro and Seroquel for his psychological issues. After all these steps however, his drinking remained almost hopeless, with a daily intake of at least 14 standard drinks and binges consisting of 20-30 standard drinks followed by a whole day recovering from this massive intake. Despite his medications, ongoing counselling, and problems caused by drinking, the drinking continued unabated and he had reached a stage of no longer being in touch with his family.

              A couple of months ago my friend read about baclofen, and we had also spoken about it on various occasions. He took some printed information about it to his doctor, who is a general practicioner, and after reading the information the doctor prescribed him 5 mg 3 times a day, to be increased very slowly to 10 mg 3 times a day. My friend kept drinking as usual but started the baclofen, and found that even the 15 mg per day had a mild effect on his thoughts and feelings about alcohol, although not enough to cause much reduction. However, to his surprise and also mine, after about 1.5-2 months, he is now finding he has a much reduced desire to binge and doesn't always want to drink heavily after he starts drinking. This is a person who both of us thought was doomed to hopeless alcoholism and a slow death from drinking. I am literally amazed at the change that such a low dose of baclofen has brought about.

              I know that this result will not happen for everyone, and from what I have read here most people will need a much higher dose, but I thought this story worth printing here. There is no other explanation for this guy's drastic change in drinking habit or attitude, and I would rule out placebo effect because he wasn't hopeful about the drug helping him. He mentions he doesn't get the runaway alcohol desire once he starts drinking now, which I imagine is probably a reduced dopamine hit from drinking (although most things I have read about baclofen don't specifically talk about it having this exact effect).

              My friend has further stated that, based on his experience of 30 mg per day, he thinks he would be completely indifferent to alcohol if he was taking 60-80 mg per day. However he is happy with his results so far. He did say that it took some time at his current dose for the effect to really kick in, so the length of time of being on baclofen daily may be a contributing factor here.
              Greg
              This is the most wonderful news & I wish your friend joy in his new 'life'.
              This thread will give hope to LOTS of people .
              I don't know too much about high doses of Bac but reading here those huge amounts that some take was scary to me.

              Thanks for this thread :goodjob:

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                #8
                Success story with low dose baclofen (30 mg)

                Great news Greg and best of luck to your friend
                I love my family more than alcohol.:h
                Live in the Solution....not the problem

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                  #9
                  Success story with low dose baclofen (30 mg)

                  I find this so encouraging. Thank you for telling us about it!

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                    #10
                    Success story with low dose baclofen (30 mg)

                    That rocks. Wish 30 would have done it for me. Best of luck to him.

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                      #11
                      Success story with low dose baclofen (30 mg)

                      Thanks for the well wishes. I have a bit of an update too, as my friend was around here last night to visit.

                      He says his GP started him on 15 mg per day, and had him slowly increase it to 30..I think it was 15...20...25...30 with a change only each week. Neither him nor I really expected that amount to have any effect. He said 15 had a slight effect in reducing his desire to drink, and that only time made it kick in, because 30 didn't seem to immediately work. He explains it as having the uncontrollable, runaway urge to drink more and more once started as being simply gone. He is confused and amazed, but also worried that it is all too good to be true (and that his doctor may not be willing to try a higher dose if 30 doesn't have a permanent effect). He furthermore says that only a couple of beers now makes him nearly intoxicated, whereas that amount had a milder effect before the baclofen. This part is odd, since nobody (to my knowledge) has reported a very dramatic intoxication-increase when alcohol is drunk on top of bac, although theory would say it should happen due to alcohol and bac both being CNS depressants.

                      Anyway, all theories aside, 30 mg/day of baclofen is still working for my friend and even allowing him to still drink without getting out of control....this is a person who (only a couple of months ago or less) drank until he passed out.

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                        #12
                        Success story with low dose baclofen (30 mg)

                        Greg,

                        According to the instructions of my Baclofen, Baclofen intensifies the effect of alcohol, so it is possible.

                        The few times that I drank beer being on Baclofen, I felt the effect first and second already, when before Baclofen it did nothing to me, but it could be because it was a long time since I drank beer.

                        The 8th almost made me puke. Never did that to me before. However, the 3th to the 8t did not make me feel more drunk. I would almost even say that they didn't make me drunk at all.
                        Today is the first day of the rest of my life.

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