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    I just got off the phone with Neva and explained the whoooooole long story to which she said "that's incredible." But she told me not to tell all of you everything because it isn't necessary.

    Short and sweet version:


    I am now the sole officer of Phoenix Research Labs LLC

    I take pure baclofen and using a slightly modified FDA recipe for creating pediatric tinctures, convert it into a form that qualified researchers can, for example: Drop into a lab rats' mouth, in a kangaroos' pouch or on a wild boar's head. Provided your local, state and country laws permit you to do so.

    These are research products ONLY. They are not to be used for human consumption.

    I own these domains:

    Home - Phoenix Research Labs "phoenixresearchlabs.com"
    Home - Phoenix Research Labs "liquidbaclofen.com"
    and
    Home - Phoenix Research Labs "phoenixexperiment.com"

    I own 100% of Phoenix Research Labs LLC. The previous owner has no interest in this corporation, nor will they ever and they are not involved in any way, shape or form in it at all.
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      It's hard to get a rat to swallow a pill.

      Kangaroos are easier, plus the mg/kg ratio works out better for them when you're talking about 10 or 20 mg pills.

      But it is much harder to breed kangaroos to be alcoholics for study because of, #1 their superior life span and #2 rats and humans for some peculiar reason seem to take to the toxic substance more readily than do any other form of mammal. Odd... Hence the need for qualified researchers access to liquid forms of baclofen:

      2,000 mg = 100 20 mg pills or 200 10 mg pills
      4,000 mg = 200 20 mg pills or 400 10 mg pills
      6,000 mg = 300 20 mg pills or 600 10 mg pills
      12,000 mg = 600 20 mg pills or 1,200 10 mg pills

      I still seem to be losing rats left and right... I think I might need to go ack and work on the mg/kg ratio. It's almost as if I'm missing a "0" somewhere in the equation or a decimal point is one, or even two digits off. :huh:
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        That's awesome! Loop! Will you be ask FDA for the baclofen indication for alcohol abuse? It seems like a lot of people are helped by baclofen. I know it's generic, but many generic meds are repackaged then later receives FDA approval for a new indication.
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          I was about to PM you. :H I told my sister "wow, this site has tens of thousands of members and somehow this guy [I apologize if you're of the female persuasion] joined up 1 month ago and somehow snagged the handle "Alcoholic".

          There is a study going on right now in Amsterdam that should help push things along. But, the study has major limitations and drawbacks (or failures from the get-go) on top of the fact that it is a foreign study. And American doctors (in general) are...how should I put it...American(?).

          The fact is (and I do not use the word "fact" lightly) baclofen is the most promising solution for alcoholics (and addicts) in general that there is so far and ever has been in 10,000 years of recorded history. That being said, it does not work for everyone, and there are many paths. But without throwing some (only slightly) indefensible statistic out there like: "it works for well over 70% of alcoholics), I will say...well...what I already have said. It is the best tool in a human history's arsenal than we have ever seen before.

          The FDA will come around. They will. The question is: How many of of us inflicted with this disease will die before it becomes a common solution to try via the "medical profession". Those quotation marks mean soooo much to me. I wish they weren't necessary. Europe is way ahead of us.

          I tried to throw myself headfirst into the windshield of a speeding car 2 days before I saw a speck of sunlight in the cavern, cave, hole or hell I was in (I couldn't see well enough to tell). I saw it 3 days after taking baclofen.

          An entry from my journal:


          Lo0p wrote:
          October 23, 2009:

          I still drank last night. I've taken 250 mgs so far today, with quite a bit more wooziness and some mild visual hallucinations, but nothing too bothersome. Haven't drank yet...jury's still out on that one. I can't attribute it to the baclofen yet but I noticed that about an hour after I took a larger dose the overwhelming suicidal feelings/thoughts I have suffered at least every 10 waking minutes for a long time now seemed to disappear. But...then they started to creep back in the evening so I got drunk.

          I was walking to the gas station down the street last night to get a bottle of wine (I was already wasted) and a car was coming in the opposite direction. They sped up and swerved just a tiny bit in my direction. I thought they were speeding up and swerving in my direction to scare me. Now sober, I know they were just speeding up because they were turning onto the highway that I was walking on and just lost the grip on the wheel a bit while they gassed it. I got angry and, glaring through the windshield at the driver, charged the car, running straight toward it as fast as I could. I had a vision of diving head first into their windshield and my brain being splattered all over it. I can't explain it other than to say that I was thinking: "You think you can scare me motherfucker? I would fucking welcome whatever you think you could do to me" They swerved away and sped off. I ended up on my ass in the middle of the highway. My ankle might be broken, or sprained quite severely. Either way it's probably a good thing I can't really walk right now.

          If you are out there, if you are listening, please send me an angel. I really need one right now. I feel like I am in the twilight of my life. I want to die and I am not afraid.


          Oct 25th I fell asleep sober.
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            OMG it must be near the end of the Mayan calendar, when time/space dimensions warp and everything goes by faster in 2 hours than in the previous 2 decades. I was just looking around for some liquid baclofen for my kangaroo!!!! Un-freakin' believable. Except it's real, so it has to be believed . . . no?

            Thanks, LoOp. No, really . . . thanks.
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              Loop: part of the problems w American doctors is that they are afraid of being sued. Without the FDA indication, if sued, the lawyer would say, "dr. So and so, did you know baclofen is not FDA approved for the treatment of alcoholism? And therefore, there's no dosage recommendation by FDA for the usage of this drug on. Alcoholics, etc. ." Of course it's defensible but most docs just would rather not have to deal w that kind of risk. In my opinion, the legal system in this country needs to be reformed.
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                Ok, baclofen, good. But what about liquid ciallis, will you be producing that too? It's not for me you understand, it's...ummm...for my kangaroo. When he takes HDB he becomes less hoppy and more floppy. :blush:
                "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                  Alcoholic;1419825 wrote: Loop: part of the problems w American doctors is that they are afraid of being sued. Without the FDA indication, if sued, the lawyer would say, "dr. So and so, did you know baclofen is not FDA approved for the treatment of alcoholism? And therefore, there's no dosage recommendation by FDA for the usage of this drug on. Alcoholics, etc. ." Of course it's defensible but most docs just would rather not have to deal w that kind of risk. In my opinion, the legal system in this country needs to be reformed.
                  That's a great excuse for the 15+ish% that have ever heard about it. And congrats to some of them for not just dismissing it immediately.

                  Of those there are a portion that you can take the information I compiled to, who might actually read it and maybe, just maybe, learn something that they didn't in the 20 years since they spent 4 years in school.

                  As for the other half of them, and most of the rest of who's left I say this: Pride and ignorance are both hungry beasts. And they feed off of each other.

                  I still owe $440 to a GP back in '09 who told me "I can't prescribe naltrexone. That is something only doctors in the field of rehabilitation can prescribe."

                  Somebody refresh my memory as to the year when it was recommended that GP's could and should prescribe naltrexone to alcoholics. '03...'02...'06? Whenever it was, it took me 24 hours to find out that he was dead wrong. And I still owe that a$$hole $440.
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                    ifulovelife2;1419840 wrote: Ok, baclofen, good. But what about liquid ciallis, will you be producing that too? It's not for me you understand, it's...ummm...for my kangaroo. When he takes HDB he becomes less hoppy and more floppy. :blush:
                    I have that, but only for kangaroos. Only by special order.

                    Is it a special kangaroo?

                    Email the store.
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                      Lo0p;1419843 wrote:

                      Is it a special kangaroo?

                      Email the store.
                      It's an enormous kangaroo. Will email you today.
                      "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                        I imagine we could make a kangaroo hoppy and not floppy simultaneously. What kind of a wild beast would that make?

                        He'd make it on the the Animal Channel for sure.
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                          Do your products also work for people with monkeys on their back? When you apply it to the monkey, off course?
                          Think you cleverly found a maze in the law.
                          Way to go, Lo0p!
                          Today is the first day of the rest of my life.

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                            Lo0p;1419845 wrote: I imagine we could make a kangaroo hoppy and not floppy simultaneously. What kind of a wild beast would that make?
                            I think it might look like this:







                            I'm not a professional artist. Really I'M NOT! I'm what you might call a gifted amateur. And I share my art for art's sake. You're all very welcome.
                            "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                              Loop: sounds like your GP just didn't know naltrexone or feel comfortable enough to prescribe it. Are you going to pay the 440? Lol!
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