Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

[Bruunhilde]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

Chili, is your bac from Bill-I guess it must be unless you're already on Loop 's?

Ever since I started this last batch, which is about five bottles, I notice a taste difference (not as sweet) and bigger particles. And I am tired much more. I don't want to test Loop's until I figure out if its the bac making me feel this way. Not sure what to do because I cant sleep if I skip a couple days. I think I will HAVE to do exactly that, unfortunately.

I want the Original Recipe bac!

[Xadrian]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

Chilipepper;1434038 wrote: and here is the important part, to always draw the solution from the BOTTOM of the bottle with the syringe each time.

In theory, the average strength would be in the middle instead of the bottom.

[Chilipepper]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

X,
In theory that would be the proper assumption, but in reality, my use of Bill P's product has been to draw from the bottom to receive the more consistent solution. In a perfect world of liquid baclofen particulate, your theory would prevail, given a certain standard.

[lostsole]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

Can you tell me what levels of mg's you are generally taking? I am assuming most of you are on lower doses?
Thx.

[Bruunhilde]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

Low dose here. Loop-started the vial from you five minutes ago. Since I am low dose and highly SE sensitive, I may take time to have a moderated effect. Any time I change formulations, I feel every new chemical. I may take time for feedb?ck.

[Bminor]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

lostsole;1433707 wrote: Ba dum dum.

Don't forget the liquid cialis. 3 new flavors coming soon! :H

What exactly are you trying to do here? Speak to me directly.

You do realize that baclofen can have some serious side effects for some users correct? Liquid form, pill form, fucking suppositories (I assume you'd much prefer this style) It doesn't matter. Well, Cialis and other alternatives are something that can help the quality of life for some of the aforementioned sufferers. I was certainly one of them and continue to have residual side effects. I have relied on a liquid form of Cialis countless times due to the fact that even with a prescription, the costs were astronomical.

[lostsole]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

Bminor;1435326 wrote: What exactly are you trying to do here? Speak to me directly.

You do realize that baclofen can have some serious side effects for some users correct? Liquid form, pill form, fucking suppositories (I assume you'd much prefer this style) It doesn't matter. Well, Cialis and other alternatives are something that can help the quality of life for some of the aforementioned sufferers. I was certainly one of them and continue to have residual side effects. I have relied on a liquid form of Cialis countless times due to the fact that even with a prescription, the costs were astronomical.

I was referring to the quote previous to mine.
Thx

[Bminor]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

lostsole;1435336 wrote: I was referring to the quote previous to mine.
Thx

Right, and what was your point with your remark "Ba dum dum.

Don't forget the liquid cialis. 3 new flavors coming soon!"

Seriously, I'd like to know. Don't shy away from me... don't play it off, tell me what your problem is.

[lostsole]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

Bminor;1435340 wrote: Right, and what was your point with your remark "Ba dum dum.

Don't forget the liquid cialis. 3 new flavors coming soon!"

Seriously, I'd like to know. Don't shy away from me... don't play it off, tell me what your problem is.

Wow, I think you are getting awfully upset here.

My concerns are pushing RC's on a forum could get a forum shut down. When you start seeing posts of lab animals and how to use unmonitored meds I think it devalues the forum a bit. That's just me. I would hate to see this forum get jacked up by this type of talk. Also, most forums don't allow people to push their meds/sales within a forum.

Also, that it's not a very scientific way of taking a med by shaking up a a bottle of non dissolved matter.

Some folks also were pushing the idea this is being sold for some altruistic reasons. It's for profit hence the cialis being sold, too.

[Bminor]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

lostsole;1435345 wrote: Wow, I think you are getting awfully upset here.

My concerns are pushing RC's on a forum could get a forum shut down. When you start seeing posts of lab animals and how to use unmonitored meds I think it devalues the forum a bit. That's just me. I would hate to see this forum get jacked up by this type of talk. Also, most forums don't allow people to push their meds/sales within a forum.

Also, that it's not a very scientific way of taking a med by shaking up a a bottle of non dissolved matter.

Some folks also were pushing the idea this is being sold for some altruistic reasons. It's for profit hence the cialis being sold, too.

Well, I was a bit upset. I'd much rather someone come out and say what's really on their mind instead of just making offhanded comments or joking about things. That one hit home for me. My apologies.

I understand your concerns. I don't believe anything in this world is EVER done out of pure altruism and I don't think anyone is really trying to make that case. No one really believes that there is nothing in it for Dr A or Dr L other than just "helping people" do they??

Anyway, I know Lo0p and I trust him. I'm thankful that he's around and I know what he's doing. I'm more than OK with it.

[Bruunhilde]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

Started Loop's baclofen last night and I feel better than I did using Bill's last batch. Great sleep with fun dreams but still finding it hard to get out of bed and remain awake. Hoping this sleepiness is residual effect from Bills batch that will go away SOON!

Despite this, liquid bac has fewer side effects than any of the several brands of pill I've used in the past year.

Hope this info helps someone ...

[lostsole]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

Bruunhilde;1435370 wrote: Started Loop's baclofen last night and I feel better than I did using Bill's last batch. Great sleep with fun dreams but still finding it hard to get out of bed and remain awake. Hoping this sleepiness is residual effect from Bills batch that will go away SOON!

Despite this, liquid bac has fewer side effects than any of the several brands of pill I've used in the past year.

Hope this info helps someone ...

I think you will always have those vivid dreams and such for a while if you are skirting around at the low doses and maybe missing some? I had those for a while until I got into much higher doses. The dreams stopped for me but the other SE's were worse.

Me, I always got sleepy at the wrong times and woke up in the middle of the night. Be glad you can sleep!

[Bruunhilde]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

Hi Lost,

I am not 'skirting around at the low doses' and certainly not missing any. I am ONLY low dose. LDB for the purpose of alleving anxiety and promoting relaxation and enabling sleep. Trouble right now is finding a dose low enough to minimize sleepiness during the day but promote the desired effects described.

[lostsole]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

Hi Buun, I just think you will have SE's no matter what. The drug has SE's and even if you could use pure baclofen maybe via a micro scale it would still make you tired and such.

The binders are really the only difference with the pills. Binders you are usually either allergic to or not.

It would rock if there was a bac out there that did not have any SE's but I don't think there's any miracle drug.

I am just hoping one day we will have the ER version of baclofen. That would rock. Life would be much easier.

[Bruunhilde]

Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

Hi Lost,

I've been on liquid baclofen at a low dose for months and months months. I did not have this problem at the low dose of under 50mg/day.

I think now that I'm back on the regular formula (Loop sent me), I'll get back to regular. The extreme fatigue I've had since I started the last batch from Bill seems to be dissipating today. I'm very sensitive to side effects. If I had been feeling this exhausted during the past year, I couldn't have continued taking it. It's like having chronic fatigue in a bottle, and it's not curing alcoholism at a low dose, only helping with anxiety. So I'm looking forward to resuming my usual routine with alot more energy, I hope.