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    #46
    Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

    Sounds like a good plan. It's true as you go up there are more SE's. It does seem to help with anxiety. It helped me but as a pleasant SE. Of course drinking made things worse for my anxiety I am sure.

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      #47
      Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

      Phoenix Research site says they're out of 40mg per 1ml formulation (can still order 20mg per 1ml). Any big difference, other than needing to administer 2x as much 'liquid' per 40mg dose? And, if Loop is around, when will 40mg formulation be back in stock?

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        #48
        Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

        Bruunhilde;1435462 wrote: Hi Lost,

        I've been on liquid baclofen at a low dose for months and months months. I did not have this problem at the low dose of under 50mg/day.

        I think now that I'm back on the regular formula (Loop sent me), I'll get back to regular. The extreme fatigue I've had since I started the last batch from Bill seems to be dissipating today. I'm very sensitive to side effects. If I had been feeling this exhausted during the past year, I couldn't have continued taking it. It's like having chronic fatigue in a bottle, and it's not curing alcoholism at a low dose, only helping with anxiety. So I'm looking forward to resuming my usual routine with alot more energy, I hope.
        I'm taking the bac from loop. I was already months sober when I started so not sure if my cravings aren't there because of alcohol being absent for awhile or if cause of the SE of the bac? I'm 7 days in and taking 50 mgs. Think I'll stay at this dose. I'm wondering what the switch is that others are talking about? Do the cravings go away forever after you hit the switch?
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          #49
          Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

          Hello,

          Just a question and probably a bit of a daft one on my part, but with the oral syringe if you extract the liquid bac to the 3.0 mL marker, does that equate to say taking a 30mg pill? same with 2.0mL = 20mg pill.

          Thanks in advance

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            #50
            Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

            Ralo, it depends on the strength of the liquid bac. It will say on the bottle: eg 20mg/ml or 40mg/ml. Do you have some liquid bac?
            "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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              #51
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              Hippyman;1433737 wrote: I just started taking liquid bac and so far so good. I am grateful to loOp for selling it to me. It saddens me that people in the UK can't get it. Isn't there some way around that?
              We're legally able to import prescription drugs without scripts (whether for ourselves or our kangaroos). Lo0p just needs to find a cost effective and discreet method of shipment. Discreet because while it's legal to import, you really want to avoid drawing attention to the contents of the package, otherwise Customs will slap an import duty on the goods...the bastards!!!!!!!
              "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                #52
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                ifulovelife2;1438244 wrote: Ralo, it depends on the strength of the liquid bac. It will say on the bottle: eg 20mg/ml or 40mg/ml. Do you have some liquid bac?
                Hi IYLL, I have 40mg x 100mill, liquid bac from Phoneix. Thanks for responding

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                  #53
                  Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                  ralo23;1438091 wrote: Hello,

                  Just a question and probably a bit of a daft one on my part, but with the oral syringe if you extract the liquid bac to the 3.0 mL marker, does that equate to say taking a 30mg pill? same with 2.0mL = 20mg pill.

                  Thanks in advance
                  ralo23;1438247 wrote:                   Hi IYLL, I have 40mg x 100mill, liquid bac from Phoneix. Thanks for responding
                  OK Ralo, just to make double sure you're clear: if you were to fill the syringe to the 3ml marker you would have a 120mg dose, not 30mg. That's not a mistake you want to make. It confused the heck out of me the first time I bought liquid drugs. But that was for cialis not bac so the side effects weren't so debilitating...well they were serious but not in an unpleasant way:H
                  "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                    #54
                    Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                    ifulovelife2;1438250 wrote: OK Ralo, just to make double sure you're clear: if you were to fill the syringe to the 3ml marker you would have a 120mg dose, not 30mg. That's not a mistake you want to make. It confused the heck out of me the first time I bought liquid drugs. But that was for cialis not bac so the side effects weren't so debilitating...well they were serious but not in an unpleasant way:H
                    Thanks IYLL so with the 20 mg strength going to the 3ml marker it would equate to a 60 mg dose. You are so right not a mistake you wouldn't need. Sorry about the Cialis muck up must have been like blue steel. Hope there was no permanent damage from that

                    Thanks again.

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                      #55
                      Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                      ralo23;1438254 wrote: Thanks IYLL Sorry about the Cialis muck up must have been like blue steel. Hope there was no permanent damage from that
                      Not to me, no.:H
                      "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                        #56
                        Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                        :H:H How's your kangaroo, IYLL?

                        But YES!! Pay close attention to the milil-liter/milli-gram conversion!!!! It's really, really important to be clear about it, and to keep track Good luck!!
                        "Wherever you are is the entry point." --Kabir

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                          #57
                          Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                          RedThread12;1438271 wrote: :H:H How's your kangaroo, IYLL?
                          Oh 'Hoppy' is quite happy atm .
                          "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                            #58
                            Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                            ifulovelife2;1438276 wrote: Oh 'Hoppy' is quite happy atm .
                            :H :H :H
                            "Wherever you are is the entry point." --Kabir

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                              #59
                              Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                              Update on my liquid bac from Loop:

                              This batch from Loop is great, the normal stuff Bill first made. No side effects at all.

                              In fact, I need to go have a shot right now, it's almost the witching hour here! And on a Sunday night.

                              Thanks for keeping it in production, Loop. I probably would halve my dose if it wasn't the liquid, any of the pills I've used gave me unpleasant sides.

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                                #60
                                Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                                What's up everyone. Just ran across a pretty significant news article, and have no idea where to put it, so I'll just drop it here. Anyway, it appears that India's Supreme Court will soon be deciding on a case that has serious drug patent, and therefore generic drug, ramifications. The short story is that if the court decides in BigPharma's favor, it will become much easier to maintain patents on prescription drugs, as well as re-patent older drugs, and patients will be left paying full price for name-brand medicine.

                                I doubt this will impact any of us in the near future, but worth keeping an eye on. Indian court to rule on generic drug industry - Yahoo! News

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