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    #61
    Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

    Weird dudes, those Indians.
    I wonder if there's a high chance other countries will follow in the event the court decides in the consumer's disadvantage.
    Today is the first day of the rest of my life.

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      #62
      Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

      Not really weird I don't think. Novartis (not Indian) is trying to cram down India's throat their practices of tweaking formulas so there's no generic alternative.

      They do that mess all the time. Like tweaking Prilosec and such. I hope India does not cave.

      Big pharma here is saying they won't spend the $ on new meds but they are just in it for the $ like this goes to show.



      On an aside, anyone see that 60 Minutes episode on Prometa? A drug combo company supposedly cures peoples' addictions? I have not googled it yet but probably b.s. Their stock is a penny stock now.

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        #63
        Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

        Bruunhilde;1439449 wrote: Update on my liquid bac from Loop:

        This batch from Loop is great, the normal stuff Bill first made. No side effects at all.

        In fact, I need to go have a shot right now, it's almost the witching hour here! And on a Sunday night.

        Thanks for keeping it in production, Loop. I probably would halve my dose if it wasn't the liquid, any of the pills I've used gave me unpleasant sides.
        Thank you very much LoOp! Great stuff!
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          #64
          Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

          Bruunhilde;1439449 wrote: Update on my liquid bac from Loop:

          This batch from Loop is great, the normal stuff Bill first made. No side effects at all.

          In fact, I need to go have a shot right now, it's almost the witching hour here! And on a Sunday night.

          Thanks for keeping it in production, Loop. I probably would halve my dose if it wasn't the liquid, any of the pills I've used gave me unpleasant sides.
          Which formula is that? I do get confused with all this.

          Well, so far, of the liquid bac, I have had Bill's stuff from about a year ago, 20mg stuff with small particulates and 40mg with large particulates from Lo0p and they've all been Kosher. No side effects whatsoever. But then again, the chicks do seem to suffer more side effects than the blokes. No Bruun, I'm not being sexist just stating a fact as I see it.
          "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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            #65
            Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

            Mx-ask Loop. They are different formulas by process but still different enough to provoke different reactions. Certainly couldn't be psychosomatic in this case.

            Some of us experience SE that others less sensitive don't.

            As you should know by now. Sigh.

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              #66
              Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

              Yep, that's what I said, different people, different reactions. Why are you bringing up phycosomatic reactions again? As I recall there was a big on screen fight a year or two ago on that very subject, which you were in the middle of. I certainly have no intention of being drawn into that, so you're on your own there, sorry.
              "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                #67
                Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                This one of yours?

                Anybody lost this chappy? Kangaroo on the loose in Melbourne airport car park - video | World news | guardian.co.uk

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                  #68
                  Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                  OMG!!! Here's what happened when we tried to catch him.
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                    #69
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                    ifulovelife2;1440278 wrote: Yep, that's what I said, different people, different reactions. Why are you bringing up phycosomatic reactions again? As I recall there was a big on screen fight a year or two ago on that very subject, which you were in the middle of. I certainly have no intention of being drawn into that, so you're on your own there, sorry.
                    As were you.

                    And you're right, you already said different people, different reactions, sorry.

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                      #70
                      Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                      FYI, I noticed there might be some folks in the UK with shipping issues.

                      There are UK vendors with liquid baclofen. Also the recipes are online.

                      Strike that, the UK ones I found look like they want a scrip. Kind of odd.

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                        #71
                        Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                        Why is that odd? Baclofen is a prescription only medicine, except for research purposes. Are they advertising it for research purposes only?
                        "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                          #72
                          Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                          just that i had not scene a liquid before...

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                            #73
                            Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                            Alright, just thought Id pop in here

                            A bit of while ago I invested a significant sum of money to purchase lab equipment and a whole lab and pure USP baclofen along with having it chemically tested and the equipment to make a non-alcohol formula using glycerine and adding citric acid and sodium benzoate to make sure it was in an inhospitable place for micro organisms

                            I can tell anyone that suggests that this was a money making venture, it was not, as LoOp knows, it was a visceral response to a patient of mine who dies. LoOp knows the story, seen his obituary.

                            Im in the UK, I shipped with VL to the UK as well as Ireland, Australia and just about everywhere.

                            As far as money, no, as LoOp can attest, this is a small market, it is like the 12th step of the AA process.
                            LoOp will not get rich
                            But he may save a life and thats what I didnt do Butch whom I gave Ameiisens book too and who he was almost begging for baclofen a few months before I saw his obituary, and I had it in my desk. a man in the desert thirsty and I gave him no water.

                            Baclofen research form is pure of heart

                            I gave it up

                            And I am in the UK working in a teaching hospital and I make more in one week than I ever made as profit from liquid baclofen
                            LoOp is the man, heart and spirit, and great fun with his mum and my wife over chinese

                            He'll sort you out, my stuff is legit

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                              #74
                              Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                              Nice of you to weigh in.

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                                #75
                                Phoenix Research Labs/Liquid Bac

                                Bill.Z;1441740 wrote: Alright, just thought Id pop in here

                                A bit of while ago I invested a significant sum of money to purchase lab equipment and a whole lab and pure USP baclofen along with having it chemically tested and the equipment to make a non-alcohol formula using glycerine and adding citric acid and sodium benzoate to make sure it was in an inhospitable place for micro organisms

                                I can tell anyone that suggests that this was a money making venture, it was not, as LoOp knows, it was a visceral response to a patient of mine who dies. LoOp knows the story, seen his obituary.

                                Im in the UK, I shipped with VL to the UK as well as Ireland, Australia and just about everywhere.

                                As far as money, no, as LoOp can attest, this is a small market, it is like the 12th step of the AA process.
                                LoOp will not get rich
                                But he may save a life and thats what I didnt do Butch whom I gave Ameiisens book too and who he was almost begging for baclofen a few months before I saw his obituary, and I had it in my desk. a man in the desert thirsty and I gave him no water.

                                Baclofen research form is pure of heart

                                I gave it up

                                And I am in the UK working in a teaching hospital and I make more in one week than I ever made as profit from liquid baclofen
                                LoOp is the man, heart and spirit, and great fun with his mum and my wife over chinese

                                He'll sort you out, my stuff is legit
                                LoOp is a life saver. I wish he was making money. Tons of money cause he deserves it! I can say without a double this bac is the best! I was taking tablets and now the liquid is so much cheaper, better and I can say for sure that I could not have stopped without it! If you want to be released from the prison of addiction then give baclofen a try. I'm so glad that I did. It saved my life! Thank you Bill and thank you LoOp!!!
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