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[dundrinkn]

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Thanks Neva and Cassander for posting. Appreciate the clarification and for helpful people posting to try and get the forum bac on track. I won't engage with the wing nuts anymore so their drivel drops down on the list.

I am having another wonderful AF free day on bac. Really amazing stuff. I am at 30 mg today. Have titrated up slowly to that over the last week. And every other day I do want to drink a cold beer. But while that used to lead to 14 or so, now it really is just one. Also, I too seem to be a nicer person on this drug. Just slower, more patient and empathetic. I am not irritated (or as irritated) by the annoyances in life. Things that used to make me go into a rage now usually get me to shake my head and laugh. Like jerks on forums. :H

Day 8 on bac and life is good.

[kronkcarr]

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dundrinkn,

You rock! How cool for you to be off to such a great start. I felt like you when I started on bac 12/12/12. Yay for us and everyone else who's found relief. Keep posting. Your sanity is appreciated by me.

kronkcarr

[COSGringo]

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Awesome job!

[Xadrian]

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dundrinkn;1465191 wrote: Also, I too seem to be a nicer person on this drug. Just slower, more patient and empathetic. I am not irritated (or as irritated) by the annoyances in life. Things that used to make me go into a rage now usually get me to shake my head and laugh. Like jerks on forums. :H

I had that same side effect and it remained so far.

[TexasAg]

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Howdy Dun,

A belated :welcome:

I'm catching up on threads and posts and just wanted agree with the kinder nicer effect of Baclofen. Things just don't rattle me as much anymore. My wife loves it but sometimes gets confused when I don't have outbursts over things that I would of in the past.

I liked the air conditioner comparison they had on the how Bac works thread. My AC is starting to work now and the heater is not overheating. :H


Cheers!

[TexasAg]

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Dun,

One other thing, I saw your post on GG's thread about abstinance vs moderation. I think you've got it right. If you don't drink it helps you titrate up and the SE's are less. But if the thought of not drinking is causing severe anxiety, then I think that's worse. I had the AA mentality for so long (it's still in the back of my mind) but I don't stress it now.

Cheers!

[dundrinkn]

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Thanks Tex. I am starting to get to the point where I can ride out the craving in short order. It actually is becoming just more of a passing thought.

Ever wonder if there should be a breathalizer on computers? It might stop some of the troll posts, and would've stopped many of my drunk posts to Facebook that I now regret. Just a thought.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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dundrinkn;1465781 wrote:

Ever wonder if there should be a breathalizer on computers?

If that were the case I wouldn't have been able to post for the first year I spent here! :H Thank goodness there is a place we can come and be who we are, you know? The troll isn't so much drunk as miserable and unable to find a way out. Why s/he targets people who are trying desperately to find a way out, we'll never know. Better to focus on what we can do to help each other get out of hell. You know? The posts are targeted, and the same person shows up (with many usernames) whenever there are a lot of new people looking at baclofen. S/he makes up stories, lies, and attacks people who continue to look for a way out here. It's pathetic. But it's also mean, and borderline evil, to crush the hopes and spirits of people who are inspired by the stories on here.

I feel sorry for the person. When it's not making me absolutely totally furious. But I found a way out with bac, as have many others, and that is what's important. I hope we can just continue to pass that message on.

Hope it's a good day!

[kuya]

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I am an interested observer and read around many threads even though med free abstainance works well for me.

I am repeatedly struck by how anxiety seems at the core of why Bac seems to work for you.

I had anxiety whilst drinking but it stopped when I quit.

Dundrinkin ..... You were sober for years but still craved alcohol so it suggests that alcohol was medicating anxiety, whereas for those who can happily quit alcohol was the cause of their anxiety.

It would appear to create two distinct groups of alcoholics

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Ne/Neva Eva;1465933 wrote: If that were the case I wouldn't have been able to post for the first year I spent here! :H

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hi Dun! sorry for the late response, but no less happy you've found your way here and to bac.

great that you're already fairly AF! it'll help hugely in the se's, but still, se's and about everything else with bac are different for everyone.

just hang in there and you'll get there.
and share, ask, vent, rant, cheer anything you want over here. i can't express how much this forum has helped me getting where i am now. (i've tried describing in one sentence what that looks like, and i'm giving up now, but it involves 2 1/2 months of effortless sobriety, and still counting )

[dundrinkn]

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Kuya -- I always said the beer was "medicinal", little did I know I was telling the truth!

Neva, you really are such a voice of kindness and reason on the board. Thank you for posting even though your life is super full and busy. I have not found enough empathy yet to be so kind. And it is hard for me to believe that anyone would be such an ass on a forum if they weren't drunk. But alas, you are correct to be inclusive and to know that we all need a place to be, even when we aren't at our best.

Jo, "effortless sobriety".... wow. That seemed like an oxymoron just a week ago. Now it seems within reach. Awesome for you!

[dundrinkn]

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Forgot to mention, I feel fuckin' fantastic today. I feel happy yet not buzzy or wired. This is strange, because normally when I get a bit of a lift, I feel nervous like I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. Not today. Just feeling good. Dang.

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kuya;1465936 wrote: I am an interested observer and read around many threads even though med free abstainance works well for me.

I am repeatedly struck by how anxiety seems at the core of why Bac seems to work for you.

I had anxiety whilst drinking but it stopped when I quit.

Dundrinkin ..... You were sober for years but still craved alcohol so it suggests that alcohol was medicating anxiety, whereas for those who can happily quit alcohol was the cause of their anxiety.

It would appear to create two distinct groups of alcoholics

Just want to respond quickly to what struck me here, Kuya. I knew what it was like to have anxiety, or at least acute anxiety, in my late teens, but after that didn't really give it much thought. Never thought I was drinking to deal with anxiety, I just knew that AL worked, and I pretty much knew I was an alcoholic. It wasn't until AL started to cause actual, legal problems that I started thinking of the dangers alcoholism and drinking started to cause anxiety.

So I'm not sure what I'm trying to say, other than there might be two--or two million--different kinds of alcoholics, and one can probably "grow" into being a different kind. Thanks for your post--it got me thinking.

[dundrinkn]

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Hey Stuck. How are you today? You've had a helluva time lately. Hope you are feeling better.

[kuya]

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StuckinLA;1466119 wrote: Just want to respond quickly to what struck me here, Kuya. I knew what it was like to have anxiety, or at least acute anxiety, in my late teens, but after that didn't really give it much thought. Never thought I was drinking to deal with anxiety, I just knew that AL worked, and I pretty much knew I was an alcoholic. It wasn't until AL started to cause actual, legal problems that I started thinking of the dangers alcoholism and drinking started to cause anxiety.

So I'm not sure what I'm trying to say, other than there might be two--or two million--different kinds of alcoholics, and one can probably "grow" into being a different kind. Thanks for your post--it got me thinking.

I am just struck by people who stay sober for years but are constantly craving. Even if their attitude was initially wrong, nine or more years is long enough to change that ( if they are being honest about remaining sober rather than falling on and off the wagon)

There is no point telling folk to foster an attitude of gratitude if they are constantly anxious. It must be hell!

So many of you Bac users report this reduction in anxiety and irritability that I think it may be the core of why you drank.

I don't believe there are a million different types of alcoholics. Being at MWO seems to show there are a limited number of personality types.

I also note that the meds boards are populated by higher numbers of type A, high IQs. Arguments go on for weeks at an intellectual level.

Nothing wrong with that, just my view as a person outside the med debate.