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    #76
    Dun, the effects of Gaba you are describing indicate that you are developing tolerance to it quite quickly & need a higher dose to get the same effect. This makes it a drug of addiction. Like alcohol, cocaine & heroin. Baclofen isn't like that. Stick to the bac, it's safer.

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      #77
      Yes Molly, that was my concern about the Gaba P. It seems to me like I will only have to keep going higher and higher in dosage to get the relief which is why I drop down for a few days and then go back up. But Ne, I hear what you're saying too. I may try going up to 1800 and see if there is something magic about that dosage. Otherwise, I may just go off it since it really only works for a few days when I go up and then the relief fades.

      I do take B12 shots (that help a little for a few days) but haven't tried B6. But now I will. That is all. Except I float tomorrow and I am so excited about that!

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        #78
        hmmm. Wait a second. Are you developing a tolerance or have you just not reached the correct level?

        Nothing I've ever read or seen has indicated that Gabapentin has an addictive quality. Just the opposite. You've been taking it long enough that it's very likely you have already developed dependence on it, and if you decide to stop taking it, you should titrate down. But addiction? To what? does it make you feel good? Do you crave it? Do you look forward to it? (Those are serious questions. I'm not being facetious.)

        If the answer to any of those are yes, then I'd stop taking it altogether. Slowly, steadily, and if needed with the help of other medications.

        If the answer is no, then it's not addictive. That doesn't mean you can stop taking it suddenly or that your body and brain don't need it. There have been so many studies done on Gabapentin, more than baclofen even, that I'm surprised you're so worried about it.

        We have a pool like that near us, or used to. I was intrigued, but then figured I'd freak out and have to quit half way through. Was it scary?

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          #79
          It was a little spooky. But in the case of where I was floating, you could leave a light on or leave the lid a bit open. I shut the light off and closed the lid. Then kept wondering if it this is what it felt like to be dead? I am pretty claustrophobic, but I also absolutely love being in water. So I just focused on the feeling of weightless floating and didn't flip my shit about being so enclosed.

          I could give a shit whether's it's 'addictive' of not. I manage all sorts of addictive things. My concern is that I'm going to always need more to get the same effect. I've read that tolerance happens quickly and it requires more and more for the same effect. I will titrate down slowly if I go off of it. I get relief from the nerve pain when I go up (from any dose). The kicker is that the nerve pain comes back after a few days at that dosage. So I go up again, and same thing. So the question is, have I just not found the right dosage, or will the nerve pain always override the whatever dosage I'm at? Make sense?

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            #80
            Originally posted by dundrinkn View Post
            So the question is, have I just not found the right dosage, or will the nerve pain always override the whatever dosage I'm at? Make sense?
            Yep. That's what I was thinking. I got to a dose of the antid I'm taking, and voila, it worked. No need to take more. Certainly no urge to take more...

            Doesn't it make sense, given all the research money they're spending on gabapentin that it isn't addictive and that there is a threshold that actually helps? (Actually, we already know it's not addictive. I'm not writing that for your benefit, but for the official record...)

            I'll be interested to see what happens and what you think.

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