Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

[COSGringo]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

TX, that sounds god awful. No last time someone gave me injury photos was someone who got their finger shot off. I was not happy they shared.

Well I am on percoset now. All it does is make me loopy but I guess that's about all they can do.

Thanks for the best wishes!

[ifulovelife2]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

Cos, if you want the Percocet to be stronger and work for longer, take some DLPA (DL-Phenylalanine) with it. Really, you just need the D-Phenylalanine but it's difficult to get hold of on its own. If you can't get DLPA white grape juice is a good opiate potentiating substitute.

Soz about your knackered back, man. that sucks arse!

[COSGringo]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

Thanks life,

I might try that. Probably just grab some juice. I just want them to kill the pain and not make me a mess. Guess you can't have it both ways.

Well things will get better, thanks again.

[ifulovelife2]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

That's the thing with opiates (and synthetic opiates) they kill the pain but they also do sooooo much more. They will, and do, mess you up. It's difficult to get away from that.

Paracetamol (Acetaminopehn in the USA) is an oft overlooked painkiller. It works great but of course has the ever so slight drawback of destroying your liver if you take it in the quantities required to do its job. And for people like us that's something we need to be doubly careful of. However, there has been some good research showing the co-use of the amino Methionine with paracetamol prevents hepatoxicity. I ain't no medico, so best to disregard anything I say about such things.

Good luck and really, get some DLPA and give it a go. It's non-toxic and can work wonders in pain management.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

Hey Cos. I spent about 6 hours listening to a lecture about pain. (It was excruciating. ) Turns out some pain meds don't work for some people and/or some pain. They just don't, without explanation. So perhaps telling your doc the percocet doesn't work and trying a different pain med will help for the immediate purposes.

I didn't have any issues with pain relief last fall when I hurt my back. Again, it was a slipped disc, not herniated. But it was still painful and the pain meds worked.

[GingerDust]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

My heart goes out to you, COS. If it was the bac, it would be pretty unusual. As you no doubt know, one of the "go to" drugs for back pain is a muscle relaxant (flexiril). I hope the MRI results lead to some relief for you. Short of that, you might want to try some cannabis yourself. It is available in a myriad of forms (smoke, vapor, tinctures, pills, coffee, candy, etc.), and it is so far the only thing I've found that really helps with nerve pain. As you pointed out to me some time ago, indica is what is generally recommended for pain. I find the sativa works every bit as well for the pain and gives me a great burst of energy as well. Good luck.

[COSGringo]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

Thanks all and Thanks GingerDust! I do have some MMJ still around from when I had my card. It's legal here now anyways but it's been really hit or miss for me with that stuff.

Life- I ended up using cimetidine before dosing. I had read something about it in the past online. About an hr before, it really helped. The percocets seemed to work better tonite. Also, could have been the traction I had today at the chiro. I've used white grapefruit juice in the past with benzos to sleep but that was med.

Anyways, enough of the meds.

Thanks for the well wishes. One decent nite without horrible pain will be awesome if I make it to the morning. MRI, manana.

I just figure how bad some people have it. I just need to suck it up and deal with it.

[GingerDust]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

COSGringo;1462481 wrote:
I just figure how bad some people have it. I just need to suck it up and deal with it.

Speaking from experience here - that is a good way wind up crippled.

[ifulovelife2]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

Cos, I'm really glad you got some relief last night. A word of warning though: adding the Cimetidine worked in two ways. As a potentiator for the oxycodone but also by temporarily shutting down the liver. That may be a concern because of the other drugs you're taking: the paracetamol in the percocet and of course baclofen. Both those, and any others you happen to be on, will also become more potent and potentially dangerous. Personally, I would stick to trying to potentiate the opiate alone and the best way to do that would be with DLPA. That said, it's a matter of risk versus reward and when you're in extreme and constant pain risk is difficult to quantify. The only important thing is to get some relief and I'm really glad you did.

Note to anyone reading this: I am not a medical professional and regularly talk an awful load of old bollocks. Please bear that in mind when reading anything I write regarding pharmaceuticals or treatments.

[COSGringo]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

Thanks to both of you. The pain came back the second I did something awkward so it's not the answer either way.

Ginger- hopefully I will know soon. I just don't want to make a mountain out of a mole hill. I am too young to start thinking I have a lifetime of issues in front of me.

[GingerDust]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

ifulovelife2;1462691 wrote: I am not a medical professional and regularly talk an awful load of old bollocks. Please bear that in mind when reading anything I write regarding pharmaceuticals or treatments.

To say nothing of sexual practices or sandwiches.

[GingerDust]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

You'll heal, COS. Just please go easy. Can you get somewhere where you could float for a while (hot tub, pool, etc.)?

[COSGringo]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

Well I do have a hot tub. I get in there now and then. I really don't float to often. Perhaps I could get some of those rubber duckies on my arms and legs.

Kind of cold here so I don't see me hitting the CO river any time soon. I should have an answer soon at least.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

I saw your post on the other thread.

I have been studying pain medications in school for the last couple of weeks. Here's the thing: Some don't work, but others will. I have no idea what you're taking, but certain pain meds absolutely interfere with, or are interfered with by, muscle relaxers. Guess what you're taking gobs of? But it is only some pain meds. Have you tried others?

I would also offer that the first place I would look, and the first pill I would take, is Gabapentin. Immediately. Just my humble opinion and certainly not advice or based on medical knowledge!

Going down dramatically may help the particular pain med you're taking work better, but it runs huge risks. Not just of relapse! The greater risk (in my opinion) is debilitating long term anxiety that can't really be treated except with large doses of stuff you don't want to take large doses of. Also paranoia and depression. Please see GolfMonster's thread, StuckinLA's thread, and many many many more.

Whatever your decision, I wish you the best and hope that you can get the pain under control and move on from there. I'm really sorry for what you're going through! :l

[COSGringo]

Pain meds and baclofen, seriously, help?

Thanks Ne. Well I have a couple bad discs in my back.

They tried norco (aka vicodin). ultracet, and now percocet. I've tried gaba without much luck. I have some nerve pain but it's more from the actual back pain.

I don't know. I go to a pain specialist but not sure how that will go. My primary knows I am on the baclofen. I am not sure whether to tell this person but I guess I will. My SE's really stink now when I take a pain med.

If I have to go under the knife at some point, not sure I want to be on baclofen or at least not where I am. I just went down to 230. Darn tinnitus is back but I am used to that.

Thanks again!