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[Ne/Neva Eva]

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Congratulations, GG!

It's great to see how thoughtful you are about this. It does seem in the beginning as though it's a lifetime's worth of struggle, especially when it's a lifetime's worth of disease. It runs in my family too, so even before the actual booze came into play, booze was in play. But rest assured, it's not a lifetime's struggle. It's a couple of months, give or take, to freedom from the struggle. It just...disappears.

Glad you're posting and updating! That really helped me along the way, too.

Hiya to Bart and dun and DD and AC and of course, Space. Good thoughts all the way around!

[Bart-man]

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Thanks for welcome Ne. I over did it and almost ended up with my family taking me to hospital. They took all my BAC. I begged for some last night and they gave me 20 mg. Telling me I need to get a prescription for it. I stayed home from work for 3 days and just did a bunch of it. I really don't know how much. I thought I could find the switch quick. I reached a great feeling point. Haven't slept the past two nights. So I screwed up. But I have made it to work the past two days. I should have followed the schedule. I'm hoping I can convince my partner to administer it. He hid it from me.

[dundrinkn]

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Bart. Be careful, my friend. No need to rush through this. Make a sensible schedule and titrate up slowly. Some people get really f-ed up going up too quickly or down too quickly so take a breath, and get some ground underneath you. And reach out for help.

[Bart-man]

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Thanks Dun. I was very messed up. But am hoping I get another chance at it. I will follow the schedule!

[RedThread12]

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I almost posted to you last night, Bart-man! For us "old-timers," it wasn't hard to know where you were headed. Then I saw the date of your last post, and figured that you had probably learned a thing or two by then.

dun is brand new, but he has done some reading and asked the right questions, so he's EXACTLY on track. Baclofen isn't always comfortable, but baclofen-hell is, in my humble opinion, fully avoidable. The thing IS, as dun said, make a titration schedule and go up in dose according to your own body's responses; do it in methodical increments; and give yourself several days at each dosage level to figure out how it is, or isn't working. Baclofen is NOT a magic pill. Read these threads, all the way back to '09, when I started taking it. You will empower yourself with what you learn, and one thing you will learn is that this path is pretty much different for everybody.

Glad you're back. Keep posting and asking questions. Read, read, read. Look forward to hearing how it's going!

[Bart-man]

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Thanks Red!

Means a lot to hear from folks on here. I should have researched it more. Well I usually learn lessons the hard way. But I do learn. Do you have to take BAC forever?

[RedThread12]

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And hi, GG!! Your thread has been a little "hi-jacked," but there's probably great info for you, too, in those diversions. You're in a great place, taking liquid bac. We dinosaurs ('09) didn't have access to that. You might order a few pills to have on-hand, or carry with you, too. I always got mine from AllDayChemist - Prescription drugs, Generic medicines, online indian Pharmacy before I got my megascript from Dr. L.

I'm so glad you're here, and posting with us. The information I found here saved my life - and, since we've discovered that the bac-path is usually different for every individual - every post is important. Onward!!

[Bart-man]

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Well I am doing pretty good now. Taking 40 mg a day. Only issue is not sleeping well. But I think it is because my mind in working through all the things I have been suppressing with booze. My desperate cry for help was heard. My DOC started the ball rolling. My family and friends have been so amazing. I went to an AA meeting and enjoyed it. The time flew. At first I thought OMG I can't sit here for 1:15 minutes with these people. Ha, I left feeling like I got schooled. I think I can combine the bac and aa and make this work. I am still talking the campral some. I think it has helped open my mind to change. I had a drink last night with a large group at dinner but almost didn't finish it except for my desire not to waste anything. But maybe I should have put the booze right there with the refried beans I didn't eat. LOL. I hope the other new comers especially Dun and GG are doing well. Not sure where we should be posting. I know I jumped on this thread but if there is a better place for us to progress please say so.

[GeauxGirl]

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Hi to B-Man, redThread, dun, and everyone else who have posted. "hi-jacked" or whatever, it seems that we all have a need to talk.

Bart - glad things have turned around, and that you have support. I'm so sorry you had such a bad time when you went too high, too fastt, on bac. But, glad you posted the results. Maybe it will keep someone else from doing the same.

RedThread - I have really enjoyed, and learned a lot, from your postings. Your interests in yoga, meditation, etc, parallel mine, but you have put yours into practice, while I have " arm chaired" my travels. I have spent much of my life playing catch up. First, from major depression, and lately from alcohol. My hope for myself is to be consistent in taking care of myself, and my life, one day at a time, with minimal breaks.

Neva/eve, thank you for the time you spend on line. You seem to be one of the most consistent Greeters here. I know I am not alone in being grateful. I am a relatively private person. Although quite a few friends know my history, strengths and foibles, few are privy to the anguish, self-doubt, and sometimes terror that invades my mind.

While Friday night was full of anxiety, and nerves, Saturday was much more mellow. I really didn't have any craving to drink. I took 50mg of liquid bac yesterday. No SE. The benadryl I take nightly to help sleep is working so much better, sans AL. I have had 7 hours of restful sleep two nights in a row. Love it!

Today is starting out beautiful, both internally, and weather wise. It is wonderful to see the sun. We have had so much rain this year, with dreary days, which do not help. I am so influenced by weather, good and dreary.

Have a wonderful AF day everyone. I'm cooking some vegan lasagna today.:happy: Yum.

GG

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[Kradle123]

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Bart don't know quite what to say except make sure you have a couple of glasses of water on your bedside table tonight...maybe some lemon water too. Put on plenty of blankets and maybe curl up with the dog or your cat, if you have one of course

See you tomorrow...it's a brand new day.
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[GeauxGirl]

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Bart-Man. Try to be good to yourself. Try to sleep. No more booze!

Let us here from you tomorrow, please. I, and all mwoers, care.

GG

[RedThread12]

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Bart - this is actually GeauxGirls' thread. Why don't you start your own thread and YES, make that your bac diary. That's the way a lot of people have helped themselves, and helped us, navigate a way out. Look at Ne Eva's long thread, and at Tiptronic's and Bleep's and Ignominious's. SO much information, and also so much knowledge to be gained just be reading through what different people have done to save their lives.

In response to you question about whether or not one has to take baclofen for the rest of their lives - the answer is no. Apparently. I, personally, have been taking it since Oct. '09, with no plans to stop anytime soon. But there are several MWO'ers who have used bac to quit drinking, then quit taking bac; and STILL don't drink, or want to drink.

But, Barty, one step at a time, huh? The time to worry about how long you will take baclofen should come sometime AFTER you have been successfully free from drinking against your will for a significant length of time. As my yoga master says, "Unless and until" the first thing happens, the next thing is irrelevant.

Thanks, GG, for the "space!"

There IS a way out. Actually, this goes out to both of you. That you are here, and posting, is a great start. Take care. Let us know what you're up to and how we can help.