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    Just in case you are wondering...

    I thought it might be appropriate for me to say why I am doing all this. As some know I have a family member who suffered a stroke some years ago and what was a fairly ordinary sort of drinking problem got a lot worse, leading to all sorts of usual problems. Trouble is it got even worse and nothing, including residential rehab worked. Imagine the worst and we have pretty much been there.

    Nothing worked until first a bit of vitamin therapy helped but that was exhausting, expensive and just didn't seem to be good enough. It was like being on a treadmill.

    Eventually we heard about Dr. Ameisen and read the book, got the medication and after years of trying to get it properly prescribed because my job prevented me from ordering on line, we got a doctor who now prescribes properly, understands the treatment and said that other doctors should know about this. He even encouraged me to write to the government urging them to tell doctors about it.

    All through this ordeal which lasted 10 years we have had opposition, skepticism and every kind of damaging, destructive behaviour from people who should be doing something about this illness.

    Instead of being treated as people who are responsible members of society, educated professionals, we have been treated like scum to be kicked about and abused. I won't go into the horrible details but it was enough to make me not want to go on living.

    Baclofen ended that. It took a long time but I can now live what is left of my life. In the process I lost my job, possibly my career, nearly my sanity. I had to drug myself to get through each day for the past two years. We have been taken to court probably about 20 times or so over this. My name has been in the national press and on the internet. I have been "papped" in the street. I filed a press complaint which was successful in getting articles on the internet taken down.

    None of our neighbours know about the treatment, our family know about it but some of them just laugh because they are either "pillars" of communty and don't want to be seen as stickng up for us or believe in tough love.

    The bile and venom that spews out at us from our own family is horrendous. We, unfortunately, live in a snob ridden ultra conservative backwater governed by a political party out of the 1930s era of brownshirts.

    The whole thing has made us not want to go out of the house. We have just taken out a lease on a house on an island a few thousand miles from here and by the end of the summer we hope to be out of this horrible backward place.

    Yes, baclofen does work. Once a pickle, now a cucumber!. You can get your health back. But if no one knows about it, you end up living in a toxic environment. It is then that you see people as the ignorant bigots that they are. Professionals who laugh when you describe the medication and treatment, can't get their heads around it, think they know better and go off to get a Pinot Noir to have a laugh at home about what you have told them.

    This is not a pleasant fight. I feel as though I am throwing grains of sand into a ocean of ignorance, stupidity and savagery when I deal with most people.

    So, when I hear people going on about somnolence, please excuse me for my rants but for some people having a job at all would be something, being able to get out of bed rather than have two week long binges, broken bones and the rest. How lucky a person is if they can use a computer.

    The only way out is to get out of here, get away from this place and start again. As I have said before, what is the point of being cured if people still treat you as though you haven't because there is no cure...and they think you are a fool for suggesting there is one.

    Until this hits the press and this cure for baclofen becomes as widely known as penicilin, we will all suffer from the ignorance and prejudice of those who don't care, can't understand the science, don't want to know, or are just plain idiots who think it is funny to bully people who have an illness.
    BACLOFENISTA

    baclofenuk.com

    http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





    Olivier Ameisen

    In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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    Otter;1466164 wrote: ...

    All through this ordeal which lasted 10 years we have had opposition, skepticism and every kind of damaging, destructive behaviour from people who should be doing something about this illness.

    ...
    Otter, I hear you. I absolutely do. I hope others do as well.

    One comment on the above snippet. I have written this before, but I am moved to write it again.

    When our son was overcome with anxiety and binge-drinking, we went to a psychiatrist nearby, in Greenwich, CT. He is a prominent psychiatrist, a graduate of Ivy League schools, and is, I believe, the former head of the department at Greenwich Hospital, which is, I believe, an affiliate of Yale University Medical Center.

    Greenwich is a high-powered community of hedge-funders, trust funders and corporate executives and one of the most affluent communities in America. And, it probably goes without saying, a community where immense amounts of alcohol are consumed. It would be putting it mildly to say alcoholism is a problem in Greenwich.

    We asked him about baclofen treatment for alcoholism. He had never heard of it.

    He said, "Baclofen? I wouldn't go near baclofen. Its a narcotic."

    I told him that baclofen is not a narcotic and that, insofar as I knew, it has been shown to be safe and non-addictive. The only question, I said, is whether it is truly effective for the treatment of alcohol addiction.

    I had brought Dr A's book with me and asked him to read the cover and endpapers. He did, but had no reaction. He looked at me as if to say, "So?" I gave him the book and asked him to read it and tell me what he thought. He said he would.

    That was almost two years ago. I have heard nothing from him.

    I did get a bill for $500.
    With profound appreciation to Dr Olivier Ameisen for his brilliant insight and courageous determination

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      Just in case you are wondering...

      I've had the same reaction from numerous psychiatrists, gp's and psychologists. I'm tempted to go back and get back the multiple copies of Dr. A's book I gave out since I doubt they read it and now it seems it's out of print. I can only find used copies now.

      Thanks for keeping up the good fight. I owe my life to MWO and finding out about baclofen. I can only hope it goes mainstream so it can save many lives.

      Thanks for all you do.

      Cheers!

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        It is like talking to zombies; nothing behind the eyes.

        The worst example of this came from a family member. She just couldn't give a damn about the whole thing. I thought she might be interested that baclofen was tried for Tourettes syndrome. She is a qualified lawyer. She had never heard of Tourettes so she looked it up on the internet and found a Youtube video of someone with Tourettes. She showed it to her boyfriend and all they did was roll about laughing.

        That, sadly, is the sorry state of things.

        Every so often I send an email to some celebrity or journalist who might have some interest in alcoholism or addiction. No one has even had the courtesy to respond. Investigative journalism is dead. I have spoken to journalists and their view is that unless there is something of a sensationalist nature to write about which people can laugh at it isn't worth publishing.

        I get hauled up here for saying doctors or distillers should be sued. Our doctor's hospital refused to speak to us or anyone after all that happened because they were afraid of being sued. The only reason I haven't raised a claim is that it would could have hindered the study going on there and it wasn't the doctor who was to blame. A and E overruled him.
        BACLOFENISTA

        baclofenuk.com

        http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





        Olivier Ameisen

        In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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            Otter;1466245 wrote:
            I have spoken to journalists and their view is that unless there is something of a sensationalist nature to write about which people can laugh at it isn't worth publishing.
            This is what I am talking about. Now we see baclofen in the press, reported inaccurately because someone died, not from taking it, but from coming off it. It is journalism at its worst. Sensationalizing a death of a young woman, trying to say it was a result of internet self prescribing, failing to do any investigative research, because it is better just to scare people and sell newspapers.

            Oh well.

            Here we are in a state of national orgasm over the birth of a baby who will secure us in the knowledge that we will be governed by a hereditary "kingship" for the next 90 years or so. Lucky us. We know what is important in this country even if we can't figure out how to safely treat someone for a life threatening illness, or get the facts right.

            Anyway, Anna Sargeant died "after" being successfully detoxed at the Priory, so what happened? If they are so good, how did they let this happen when the only information about detoxing on baclofen is to do it very slowly and that information is in the hands of our National Institute for Clinical Excellence. I know because I sent it to them, and it is on the internet. Just google this: prescribing guidelines for baclofen in the treatment of alcoholism. You will get guidelines which tell you not to reduce dosage abruptly and it will give you the names of doctors who are familiar with the treatment.
            BACLOFENISTA

            baclofenuk.com

            http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





            Olivier Ameisen

            In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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