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[Ne/Neva Eva]

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With you in spirit, if not in spirits! :l bleep.

[COSGringo]

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Hey Bleep,
Glad you got some fun SE's from the bac. Shoot I am back up near my highest dose which is around the switch and I am not liking life. Only 10 mg more than where I was for a while. I felt like I had a hangover today but nothing to show for it.

Have to say though I don't want a drink. So stuck with the bac for life I guess.

Come on baclofen ER.

Good luck with the dance.

[bleep]

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Thanks COS and Ne,

In my experience COS, the SE's fade. I can't remember how long it took, but looking at the timescale, it must have been a few months. Sounds like a long time, but it's nothing, really, for what you're getting. The only one that didn't for me was crappy sex, which as I said earlier, made me want to get off it. That hasn't worked, and I still want the odd drink, so baclofen it is. Perhaps if that SE comes back, which it probably will, it too will fade after a while.

Sitting on 100 for 2 days now, mostly feeling good with feelings described in my previous post. I want to go up, but I've chatted more to my wife about my behaviour that night, and she was really worried, so I'm taking it slow. Haven't decided what to go to or when.

[RedThread12]

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Hey, Bleep!! I've been reading all along, but haven't had reliable internet service until late last night. I'm half-way around the world from my home, and going to the shops involves walking across the Ganges River and multiple auto-rickshaw rides. With plenty of room for high adventure all along the way. Anyway . . .

So to catch up a little - I am SO happy that you are here, to report your experience with this part of your bac-path; one which someone else may have already discovered, and someone was SURE to, in time. I'm sympathetic with your situation, but I'm also grateful that it's you. Your experience, and your willingness to share how it goes, will be an incredibly valuable addition to the bac archives.

I have continued with a "maintenance dose" since Oct. '09. When I have reduced it a couple of times, down to 50-60/day for a few weeks, cravings for alcohol never returned, but I could feel the low-grade physiological anxiety. So I continue w/120 mg/day (unless I forget a dose), quite happily. And I've found that I prefer liquid bac. Don't know if it's available to you, though.

And I'm just a "normal" drinker. Which, in my work and social environment, is not much. Maybe wine with a nice dinner in a restaurant once a week - never more than 2 glasses. I usually do that with a friend who saw me all the way through the very worst of the worst (and it was ugly), and even now, 3+ years later, he finds it amazing that I never want more. Sometimes I leave part of the 2nd glass. This IS a miracle, in my life.

Where I am staying in India this month, alcohol and eating meat are illegal. Really. So it's easy to check off drinking in March. And I STILL wake up in the morning and say "thank you" to Dr. Ameisen, MWO, et al. It became such a habit, when I was drinking, to wake up in the morning, explore how I was feeling, try to remember what I had done, blah, blah, blah . . . I still do that, with always a far better report. And no matter how shi**y I may be feeling, it's never as shite as waking up from blackout drinking. I mean - that was the point - to blackout!! NOT to wake up!

MWO is still far and away the best resource I know of (since I don't read French) for baclofen. I owe you a debt of gratitude for bush-whacking this part of the path.

[Otter]

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bleep;1475611 wrote: A brief background will probably help. I first took baclofen over 2 years ago, and it worked perfectly. I went, almost overnight, from someone who couldn't stop once I had begun drinking, to someone who very seldom started. I continued taking baclofen for over a year, and during that time went up pretty high, and was thoroughly indifferent to alcohol. Just to see what would happen, and because baclofen was screwing with my sex drive, I went off it, maybe 8 months ago. To my surprise, the indifferent effect remained, and until recently worked fine. I would drink perhaps once or twice a week, maybe a glass or three of wine, and that was that.

2 weeks ago, literally overnight, the effect wore off, and I've probably been pissed on 80% of the nights. So it's back to the titration drawing board. I just wanted to post to let people know, in case someone who is on baclofen currently is thinking of tapering off.

Can I suggest an explanation of this?

IMHO, baclofen is not a "cure" of alcoholism in the sense that it repairs the damage done either by stress or consumption of alcohol itself. What it does is stop the anxious craving feeling by calming Gaba b receptors. By doing so, it stops you wanting to drink in order to calm these receptors. By stopping drinking you then stop the damage and your brain repairs itself, particularly the fine nerves connecting parts of the brain.

So, your abstinence allowed your brain to repair itself. Then, you were able to stop. If you then started drinking, after a while, you may have re-damaged your brain causing what one doctor described to me as "brain irritation". You started up the "vicious circle" of alcohol consumption leading to damage leading to anxiety/irritation leading to the need to calm the anxiety irritation by drinking.

Right, back to the drawing board it is!

Good luck.

[GeauxGirl]

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Bleep. It is scary what happened, but like many others, especially RedThread, I m grateful that you are able/willing to "do" bac again. And that you are willing to share your story and path.

Years ago I was on Prozac, and like bac for you, it seemed to drop me overnight. Which lead to drinking, which lead to 3 week enforced hospitalization. Not only was the swiftness of the descent frightening, so too was the fear that another AD would do the same, eventually. So far, that hasnt happened, and I really believe that going bac to bac will result in your re-obtaining the state of calm and control.

Have a great AF + bac day!

GG

[bleep]

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Thanks GG!

Red, hi, yip I prefer the liquid bac as well. I mix my own, or rather I get the pharmacy to mix it for me; back in the days when baclofen supply was erratic in this part of the world, Bill saved my bacon and sent a kilogram of baclofen powder, or 1 million mg's. So I'm pretty covered there! It will lose efficacy long before I can finish it. I just take a bit of powder into the pharmacy, get very funny looks, and explain the story, and they generally mix it for me without too much bother.

Your trip/holiday sounds pretty cool, except the no meat thing. I would starve to death.

Otter, I mostly agree, except the timing is strange: I had been drinking as a normal person would define it for about 8 months on zero baclofen without issues, which led me to believe that I had gotten very lucky indeed. Alas, too good to be true!

[Bill.Z]

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Yeah mate, everything screws with the sex drive. Thats why there was a liquid tadalafil option.

Id you drink, itll kill ur testosterone levels as well.

So good test levels, baclofen, folate and B vitamins and 200mg of baclofen a day in 4 doses and you'll be sorted

Cheers

Oh and LOL @ saving ur bacon, Ihad to move heaven and earth to get you 100 grams of liquid research baclofen
Finally it was, pure USP baclofen powder just to fulfill the order.
Too stressful lol

Just live in the moment and dont stress and dont remember. If you acccidentally remember stuff, itll make you drink. Just live and be happy. Funny after six months I saw this thread. Take care my friend

[bleep]

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Bill!

Good to see you are alive my friend!

Booze definitely screwed with my sex drive; it increased it. That's a pretty bad combination for a married man though! Drunk and horny seldom ends well if you are taking a long term view of the situation...

[COSGringo]

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What in the world of the back street boys is going on in this forum?

[bleep]

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I find the fact that the Back Street Boys are extremely successful more weird than anything in this entire forum, but that's a topic for another day.

I'm from Zimbabwe, and a while ago, while on a very high dose, the entire country ran out of baclofen. Bill sent shipment after shipment that kept getting lost in transit, thanks to our wonderful postal service, and eventually one got through - a kilogram of baclofen powder, 1 million mg's. He only charged me for the initial shipment. That's where the saving my bacon comes from.

[COSGringo]

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Ahhh, it's all so clear to me now.

And yes the Back Street Boys are let's say odd. Hence the reference.

[RedThread12]

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(A) Back Street Boys successful vs. (B) Bleep receiving 1 million mg's worth of pure USP baclofen powder in f'in Zimbabwe so he can save his life, not once, but once again?

I've gotta' go with (B) as the more "this can't be true!" option. Even though I hate (A) and am awed, amazed and totally love (B). :H

[COSGringo]

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It has become quite entertaining around here. Perhaps I can use it for a sort of Philip K Dick type novel.

Ladies and Gentlemen, up next Menudo vs. Desperados.

[RedThread12]

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COSGringo;1478552 wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen, up next Menudo vs. Desperados.

:H:H:H