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    bleep;1520436 wrote: For me, the only thing that improves it is to reduce my level. I then walk a fairly fine line though. I will notice myself slightly more eager to hit the pub, or continue drinking, and then I have to go back up. Unfortunately the line between indifference and a good shag seem to be drawn in exactly the same place, which is probably not coincidental at all.
    This mirrors my past experience. I can do it at higher doses but as Colin says, the reward : effort ratio is not in my favor. Now I'm at 80mg again and have had 4 nights of enjoyable moderate drinking. S'pose I can get ready to give the pipes a clean.
    Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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      ignominious;1520456 wrote: S'pose I can get ready to give the pipes a clean.
      Your wife is a lucky gal Ig. Such romance is not often found out of the pages of poetry books.

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        ignominious;1520456 wrote: Now I'm at 80mg again and have had 4 nights of enjoyable moderate drinking. S'pose I can get ready to give the pipes a clean.
        This just might be our near-term future. Dive down to unindifference (difference?), drink a few beers and clean our respective pipes before leaving the thrills for a couple of weeks. That will cost a lot of will-power and I wonder if I've got enough.

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          Wow, Colin. It's not the inherent misogyny that shocks, that was readily apparent in many of your previous posts. It's the fact that you are so unashamedly blatant about it. Good thing you don't mind paying for it.

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            Oh well Ne, we all have our problems. Good luck with yours.

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              bleep;1520488 wrote: Your wife is a lucky gal Ig. Such romance is not often found out of the pages of poetry books.
              As usual Bleep your level headedness is uncannily accurate, just today I was reiterating the same sentiment to her.
              However after 3 years of this, I wouldn't be surprised if she was having difficulty seeing this fundamental truth as accurately as us.

              Trips to Bangkok are also now viewed as chores.
              Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                Ne/Neva Eva;1520636 wrote: Wow, Colin. It's not the inherent misogyny that shocks, that was readily apparent in many of your previous posts. It's the fact that you are so unashamedly blatant about it. Good thing you don't mind paying for it.
                Ne, I remember you calling me a misogynist several years ago: I didn't appreciate it then and unless you have had enough evening classes in the meantime to call yourself a psychiatrist, I suggest you stop the name calling.
                Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                  In an effort to confirm that the anorgasmia disappears at the same time as a return of the lust for alcohol, I got thoroughly drunk on Thursday and attempted to give my better half a thoroughly good rogering.

                  Unfortunately the healthy part of the forked experiment didn't go as planned. Missionary, lotus blossom, butterfly, spinning top, all ended in frustration. Now it appears that I have strained my parts and have one gonad which has swollen to the size of a tennis ball. Very uncomfortable, I can tell you.

                  Another Doctors appointment in a few hours. You all have a great day!
                  Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                    I know it's considered bad form to laugh at others misfortune, but I have to confess to laughing all the way through that post.

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                      How romantic! Are you sure the lady wouldn't have appreciated a new door as well?

                      Ne/Neva Eva;1503354 wrote:
                      The door that he installed yesterday? I bought one, and then realized I wanted a different style. So we took it back and exchanged it for a different one. On the way home with the 2nd door, I suddenly realized I didn't want a black door, I wanted a white one. So we took back the second door and got a third. Granted, he was very annoyed. But he gets it, and me, so he just rolled his eyes. (Repeatedly. It was aggravating.) I do that kind of thing all the time.

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                        It deserves a TV comedy sketch! Thankfully the swelling is retreating. I forgoed (sp) the Dr appointment as the self prescribed cure or wearing underpants seems to have taken the weight off the problem. I've reduced my dose another 10mg today, to 70mg. Something has gotta give. I'm not out of control drinking by any means so....

                        Mr Colin. I sympathize with you, the ones you don't pay for are the most expensive! But try to keep it relevant.
                        Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                          O.K. Time for a little re-framing around this issue, IMO.

                          It just occurred to me that this could be viewed as an opportunity, not an issue. There is extensive literature from several different traditions regarding the incredible health and physiological benefits for men who intentionally generate intense sexual energy, but withhold ejaculation. Seems the theory is that retaining semen does great things for one's overall vitality. In that same vein, there's actually a way for a man to experience full orgasmic sensations, but by putting firm pressure at a specific point, retain his life-enhancing fluids. A few year's ago there was a flurry around all this, and quite a few books were on the market. One that I remember is "The Multi-Orgasmic Man." There really ARE a lot of dimensions to sexual energy that most of us skip completely with a somewhat linear approach to the endeavor.

                          So, again, I say, get curious!! If you can't do it the way you've always done it, see if you can find some books or information about other ways to go about it - ways that some people say are far more satisfying than the same ole' same ole'. Google "transmutation of sexual energy" or something like that. Really. I'm not kidding. See if you can make lemonade out of this lemon, and it might be the start of whole new forum!!!
                          "Wherever you are is the entry point." --Kabir

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                            This is not a lemon Red, it's a great big glass of battery acid, and unfortunately tastes somewhat bitter no matter concoction is pressed around it. It goes back, I think, to choice. Choosing to withhold ejaculation is one thing, being entirely unable to do so is another, entirely less favourable option that removes any element of fun from the equation. Desire is also decreased, which also adds to the nasty flavour.

                            Anyway, there is a solution, but for me it involves a rather fine line. I just decrease my dose, and try and keep an eye on the drinking. It's actually really strange. I find myself deciding on Friday night that going out is the very best idea, but then I realise that if I do that, I have no chance of wooing the missus when I return home pissed, so I am stuck in a catch 22 situation (great book if you haven't read it). I'm working through it, and seem to have found a happy medium at the moment.

                            I tried the tantric Sting thing in my 20's, but never really got it going. Having to stop to refill the drinks and have a smoke break always seemed to ruin the moment somehow.

                            All that said, I appreciate the thought, thanks.

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                              RedThread12;1523134 wrote:
                              Seems the theory is that retaining semen does great things for one's overall vitality. In that same vein, there's actually a way for a man to experience full orgasmic sensations, but by putting firm pressure at a specific point, retain his life-enhancing fluids.
                              As a teenager I spent a lot of time wanking myself stupid. It always seemed that every ejaculation was followed shortly afterwards by a depressive period. Later on when enjoying the real thing I didn't notice the depression but by that time I was also seriously indulging a taste for alcohol.

                              Looking at my sober period during the last fourteen months I notice those short-lived depressions returning.

                              You seem to have a valid point Red.

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                                RedThread12;1523134 wrote: O.K. Time for a little re-framing around this issue, IMO.

                                It just occurred to me that this could be viewed as an opportunity, not an issue. There is extensive literature from several different traditions regarding the incredible health and physiological benefits for men who intentionally generate intense sexual energy, but withhold ejaculation. Seems the theory is that retaining semen does great things for one's overall vitality. In that same vein, there's actually a way for a man to experience full orgasmic sensations, but by putting firm pressure at a specific point, retain his life-enhancing fluids. A few year's ago there was a flurry around all this, and quite a few books were on the market. One that I remember is "The Multi-Orgasmic Man." There really ARE a lot of dimensions to sexual energy that most of us skip completely with a somewhat linear approach to the endeavor.

                                So, again, I say, get curious!! If you can't do it the way you've always done it, see if you can find some books or information about other ways to go about it - ways that some people say are far more satisfying than the same ole' same ole'. Google "transmutation of sexual energy" or something like that. Really. I'm not kidding. See if you can make lemonade out of this lemon, and it might be the start of whole new forum!!!
                                Fantastic to see the bright side of things. Only problem here is that these methods rely on sexual energy as a prerequisite. Unfortunately I seem to have a dearth of that atm.

                                Might be a good primer for joining a monastery and foregoing the pleasures of the flesh. I could capitalize on the kudos gained for such a noble sacrifice in the name of spirituality!

                                As soon as my sphere recovers sufficiently, I shall get back on the 'ol horse (metaphorically speaking) without the stimulating benefits of alcohol.
                                Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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