Baclofen 'old timer' still struggling.

[TexasAg]

Baclofen 'old timer' still struggling.

Hi Lakelover,

I agree with Stuck (I think :H) Bac does help you stop drinking but then you have to deal with the stuff that made you drink in the first place.

But one step at a time. Bac works. So keep reading, posting, asking questions. I'm sure there is a Baclofentista here that has an answer or comment to whatever question you might have.

But agree with Kronk, you might want to start your own thread so we don't hijack IG's.

Cheers!

[buddabelly]

Baclofen 'old timer' still struggling.

Love your idea of ' moderation ' Stuck.

Lea

[lakelover]

Baclofen 'old timer' still struggling.

StuckinLA;1499908 wrote: So the real question, unfortunately, is are you ready to be yourself? And who are you?

That's really shitty of me to do, and I'm sorry. It does remind me, though, of this documentary I watched a little while back. If you're not familiar with recent English literature, my apologies: Jerry Stahl finally got clean, and so he's sitting there being interviewed for a documentary on Hugh Selby Jr., and Jerry tells the interviewer something he learned. He said that Hugh told him, just after he got clean and sober, that it's after you get clean that you find out how dark you are. Because there's no buffer between you and the darkness anymore.

I think, honestly, in retrospect, this is the worst post I could possibly put on your thread. I'm still going to leave it here, and say that if you want to know what kind of asshole I am you can read my thread.

:H Good response, and I'm very aware of facing the dark side of myself. In fact, I'm really trying to face the whole me 100%, which is why I'm here.

I will start a new thread, but I'll keep an eye on this one as well. :new:

Thanks for the well-wishes.

[ignominious]

Baclofen 'old timer' still struggling.

My definition of moderation would include "not getting into fights" and stopping when its expedient to do, basically drinking like a normal person.

I would like to contact Phil for a chat but despite the big changes here, my internet connection is still not up to skype!

I felt that previously I had drank my way past/through the bac induced barrier to alcohol but possibly and even probably I had just reduced my dose too far.

I certainly agree with everyone that in the light of sobriety: underlying problems can become clearer. I also think that one has a much better chance of resolving those mismatches in the brain when first sober. I would urge anyone to use whatever means are at their disposal to work at this even if those means hadn't been successful before.

Not too many gems here I'm afraid, just some bleating and meanderings of a lost soul. Thanks to everyone for livening up the thread.

Had a testosterone test a couple of days ago but need to talk to the Doc first.

[kronkcarr]

Baclofen 'old timer' still struggling.

ignominious,

I identify with you--maybe that's why I thought there were gems here! I often feel that I'm dull and off my game too. I'm on 70 mgs maintainance and I get tired of taking even that small of an amount. I do want to escape sometimes, but I don't think AL and bac "allow" for the buzz I used to get.

I thought once I hit the switch and went down to a maintainance dose it'd all be smooth. For me it's not--not horrible--I just now have to figure out who I am.

I appreciate your posts because you've been around the block with bac. It's good for me to hear other realities. Thanks.

[bleep]

Baclofen 'old timer' still struggling.

Hi Ig,

From a drinking point of view, I am sorted. SE's are pretty minimal. I am now in your boat though, of wondering what to do with myself. I am busy at work, but the long dark teatime of the soul keeps me awake at nights. I am in the unusual position of wanting to be drunk, but not wanting to drink. I don't remember this angst from the first time, I think the bright light of indifference overshadowed everything.

Getting a hobby or something similar isn't helpful. It is not filling the time that is the problem, it is correcting the attitude that seeks an oblivion that is now denied to me. I am sure that given time this will resolve itself. At least, I hope it will, or I will be forced to do something proactive, which is not my strong suit.

[ignominious]

Baclofen 'old timer' still struggling.

Drank a lot (for me, nowadays) on Fri night. 'Bout 20 units. Didn't hit the spot but was quite pleasant getting out in the evening. Couldn't get drunk the way I would have liked!

Drank the next day, less but still pleasant. Could get into this habit! So made a conscious effort not to drink yesterday which I managed and feel better with myself about it.

The point is that even though I'm not physically addicted at this point, I'm sure I could become so unless I'm vigilant.

What do people do for fun??!! Nothing has ever lived up to getting drunk or high. I know that is rather a defeatist statement and in all honesty I am better at dealing with sobriety than I was 2 years ago. I would go skydiving or mountain climbing if I thought it would work but frankly all that effort for a 20 second free fall doesn't seem like good value. Now if it cost $10 and I could go up again in an elevator until I was satiated. it would be a different proposition.

Yo Reggie, I'm sure I saw you here. Still up to the old tricks then. Come back!! Hope you're good.

Still checking the testosterone but difficult to get any sense out of the Doctors here. Be nice to get my mojo back. Wished I was single and could transfer to sex addiction for a while.

110mg, trying not to act "fucked up" and starting to snap at people who get on my tits!

[bleep]

Baclofen 'old timer' still struggling.

I have taken up lawn bowls. It is much better than heroin, more of an intense rush. I'm not very good, so it lasts longer than being drunk, even a solid bender.

But if you read my post above, it's not helping, so don't bother trying it.

Sorry I can't be of more help Ig.

[ignominious]

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Considered bowls. But... I think the 'anxiety inducing' slow role across the green is dangerously drawn out. Thanks for the idea. Navel gazing seems to be doing for me atm.

Always read your comments, still trying to work out the significance of the "void" snippet.

After several days of phone calls, to the lab that gave me my testosterone test, I finally got some closure! I had tested slightly above the normal range which surprised me. The internet backed me up and yesterday the lab admitted they had a reference range which was out by a factor of 10.
I'm right
They're wrong
I'm fucked
My level is woefully low.
More internetting, several sites , including pub med have studies about this. Can't make head nor tail of any of it!. Internet connection too slow to connect to the links on this page:
reverse negative feedback loop testosterone (gaba, baclofen, etc...) - Bodybuilding.com Forums
Any comments. Anyone, Bill, Dr Phill. Though, if Bill does reply, please keep it simpler than pub med!

[Colin]

Baclofen 'old timer' still struggling.

I see that your minimalist art exhibition has been terminated. Pity. Were there any specific objections or was it just deemed to be in bad taste?

[ignominious]

Baclofen 'old timer' still struggling.

Colin;1503481 wrote: I see that your minimalist art exhibition has been terminated. Pity. Were there any specific objections or was it just deemed to be in bad taste?

I must have missed something?

Pretty depressed about my testosterone count. Waiting for another test when the lab gets back to me. Feel like I'm dying, slowly but surely. Maybe baclofen has just put this into focus or maybe baclofen is speeding it up. No 'joi de vis".

Anyway back to the testosterone. Before trying HRT, putting more fucking chemicals into my body. I think I should try a heavy metal detox to get rid of built up mercury. Little difficult to measure this but I think after 50 years and having a sadistic filling crazy dentist as a youngster, I think the probability is worth a shot. Read a few sites about this. Anyone ever done one or any Doctors on board? BTW where is Beatle, she would have had something to say about this.

[Colin]

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Ah, so it's become an unthread. I was worried that I'd slipped between parallel universes.

[ignominious]

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No idea what you're on about, Colin. Sorry. Maybe you could enlighten me.
And has anyone got any suggestions for me FFS.

[bleep]

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Ah, this has been puzzling me. I think you are referring to Iful's 'Then and Now' thread, which I have just seen has disappeared. Odd, I didn't think there was anything offensive in it, apart from the savage treatment to his poor, poor pet.

[Colin]

Baclofen 'old timer' still struggling.

bleep;1504279 wrote: Ah, this has been puzzling me. I think you are referring to Iful's 'Then and Now' thread, which I have just seen has disappeared. Odd, I didn't think there was anything offensive in it, apart from the savage treatment to his poor, poor pet.

My apologies. That is indeed what I was referring to. Sorry for the confusion.