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    Baclofen 'words'.

    I've been on Baclofen (with Naltrexone) now for a few days, and intrigued about the 'language' that is used to describe the various stages of Baclofen useage. When my doc prescribed it, he gave me NO information about how the course of treatment could or would proceed, so I come here to my learned peers for information!

    I've noticed words bandied around about Bac that don't seem to be issues with other meds, so here goes!

    1) What's 'The Switch'?
    2) What's 'Indifference' (and how does it relate to the Switch?)
    3) I've noticed that some people continue drinking whilst on Bac, but then are concerned about side effects, yet others don't have the same issues....any clues??
    4) Are there general side effects that can be expected from Bac use?
    5) I understand the need to titrate up and down from meds....is Bac remarkably different to other meds?

    I'm sure I will have other questions, but thanks for reading.....oh, and Day 3 now, going fine.
    Remember: A craving will never last as long as a hangover, and you'll never wake up wishing you'd drank the night before. (Thank you K9Lover)
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    Baclofen 'words'.

    Yo, and :welcome:

    So you've got a doc that prescribes but hasn't told you what to expect or how this is going to go? That blows. But I guess at least you got a script.

    1) The switch is the point where you feel indifference. It really does kind of feel like a 'switch'

    2) Indifference is just that: you are completely indifferent to alcohol. You don't think about it. And if it's in front of you you can't even be bothered to pick it up, much less drink it. Though old habits and a determination to still be your old self can help you force your way through that lack of feeling. But it's weird, 'cause it's just a really unfamiliar feeling, to not want to drink.

    I'm on my fucking phone right now, so can't look back at your post to see the other numbers.

    The SEs are generally extreme tiredness and fatigue in the afternoons, sometimes feeling out of it and foggy headed, sometimes trouble sleeping, and there are others but those are the big ones.

    You can drink lots all the way up to the switch if that's how you want to play it, but it makes everything harder. The hangovers are brutal and don't feel like what you remember hangovers feeling like. And that can produce some serious anxiety--just feeling different and off. But drink whatever, you can still get to the switch. One person I know hit the switch so hard that she couldn't even stomach the idea of drinking to stave off the physical withdrawal from drinking one night to not the next. She had a few sweaty, sleepless nights but was fine.

    And those are the basics... I'm sure somebody else will be around soon to give another perspective.

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      #3
      Baclofen 'words'.

      Yo, and :thanks:.

      Remember: A craving will never last as long as a hangover, and you'll never wake up wishing you'd drank the night before. (Thank you K9Lover)

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        Baclofen 'words'.

        3) Drinking makes the SEs worse.

        5) Yeah, a good rule of thumb is dont move up or down more than 10mg/day. And no faster than 3 days--as in, stay at a dose at least 3 days before changing anything.

        Read around here as much as you can. Old threads, new ones, keep asking questions.

        And hey, not a problem.

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          Baclofen 'words'.

          :welcome:

          Stuck gave good answers and here's my 2 cents on the switch.

          kambob;1500474 wrote:
          1) What's 'The Switch'?
          Like Stuck said, it's the point at which you don't care about alcohol, you can take it or leave it, indifferent. For different people there are different types of switches, some off/on switch, mine was more of a dimmer switch. Little by little I noticed I was doing things, going to events and realizing, hey people are drinking and I'm not
          Try to string AF days together, this helps with the SE's and also helps you identify when you hit the switch. Of course if that was easy we wouldn't be taking the pills :H. But if you can, try. Everyone is different but you'll get to the point where it starts getting easier to say no to that first one. Then you'll realize that the thought of alcohol goes away.

          Very important to be nice to yourself. This is a treatment for a medical condition. It takes time and medicine for your brain to adjust. One of my SE's was sleepiness when I would titrate up so I would titrate 20mg a week on Saturdays and by Sunday my sleepiness would go away so I could hit work on Monday.

          Read as much as you can on these threads. Some Bac treatments are easier than others. Mine was in between, I think. But I would do it all over again !

          :welcome: again!

          Cheers!

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