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    Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

    This radio programme broadcast this week about food addiction is extremely interesting and could be relevant to some people here(for various reasons), if you listen to the people speaking many of the behaviours are exactly the same as for alcoholics and other drug addicts. Things like sneaking food, stealing, hiding evidence, taking it back out of the bin. They mention the use of 12 -Step and medication approaches including Naltrexone.

    I do know that some alcoholics do have eating issues, and I don't mean because they are drinking too much - I mean comfort eating, especially after quiting booze.



    BBC Radio 4 - Constant Cravings: Does Food Addiction Exist?
    I used the Sinclair Method to beat my alcoholic drinking.

    Drank within safe limits for almost 2 years

    AF date 22/07/13
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    Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

    Thanks for that uk

    I'm sure that the brain chemistry involved in most addictions are the same.

    I know when I've stopped drinking in the past I've taken up some other form of compulsive behaviour. I've done charity shops, bingo and buying books, make up. Anything if it will fix me.

    UK can you tell me if you have seen Dr Chick ?

    Lea
    Today, I will live one day at a time and do one thing at a time

    It was obvious from a very early age that my mind and I were not going to get on. Kay Redfield Jameson

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      Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

      buddabelly;1500660 wrote: Thanks for that uk

      I'm sure that the brain chemistry involved in most addictions are the same.

      I know when I've stopped drinking in the past I've taken up some other form of compulsive behaviour. I've done charity shops, bingo and buying books, make up. Anything if it will fix me.

      UK can you tell me if you have seen Dr Chick ?

      Lea
      Lea

      Yes Dr C was the person who agreed to prescribe Naltrexone as per TSM for me, I'd gone to him to ask about baclofen which I was struggling with at the time and with some interest in Naltrexone.

      Turned my life around.
      I used the Sinclair Method to beat my alcoholic drinking.

      Drank within safe limits for almost 2 years

      AF date 22/07/13

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        Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

        Dr Chick

        Thanks.

        I've got an appointment with him on the 4th June.

        I have some Bac I ordered on line but finances dictate that to really do this right I need to be able to have large quantities regularly. I would also like the supervision. Did you take the Naltraxone ?

        Lea
        Today, I will live one day at a time and do one thing at a time

        It was obvious from a very early age that my mind and I were not going to get on. Kay Redfield Jameson

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          Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

          Budda,

          Very glad to see you are going through a doctor for your meds.

          As far as food addiction, I had gastric bypass in 2005. Once I started drinking alcohol, I became a complete alcoholic almost immediately.

          Several people on MWO have had the same experience with GB and alcoholism.

          Thanks for the link, UK.

          Cindi
          AF April 9, 2016

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            Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

            Hey BB, are you in the US? You can always get a bac script through Dr. L. It's a pain in the nuts but it's also way cheaper. There's also the liquid, which as soon as the website's back up I'll be ordering, and that's cheaper as well.

            If nothing I just said makes sense or means anything to you, just ask me for the details. Here, my thread, or in PM.

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              Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

              Hi,do you know if the doctors in Canada ,provide these drugs,thanks a lot for your info,have a Fab day!!

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                Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

                buddabelly;1500681 wrote: Thanks.

                I've got an appointment with him on the 4th June.

                I have some Bac I ordered on line but finances dictate that to really do this right I need to be able to have large quantities regularly. I would also like the supervision. Did you take the Naltraxone ?

                Lea
                Yes I did take the Naltrexone I followed the Sinclair Method and had great success with it, started it 2 years ago it's what I refer to in my signature at the bottom of my posts.

                I think he only prescribes up to 80mg a day because that's the 'recommended' limit in the UK but many people use this then top up with online ordering.

                StuckinLA I think BB is in the UK, hence his appointment with Dr C who is in Scotland.
                I used the Sinclair Method to beat my alcoholic drinking.

                Drank within safe limits for almost 2 years

                AF date 22/07/13

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                  Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

                  bcp2013;1500696 wrote: Hi,do you know if the doctors in Canada ,provide these drugs,thanks a lot for your info,have a Fab day!!
                  Don't have info about Canada doctors but I do know Dr. L out of Chicago will prescribe. Not sure if he'll prescribe for food addiction.

                  PM me if you want his info.

                  Cheers!

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                    Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

                    buddabelly;1500660 wrote: Thanks for that uk

                    I'm sure that the brain chemistry involved in most addictions are the same.

                    Lea
                    I'm sure that is the case. I am on Campral right now, and it's helped immensely in reducing cravings for alcohol, and I've noticed it has curtailed other compulsions as well.
                    In the middle of my life's journey, I found myself in a dark wood, as I had lost the straight path. It is a difficult thing to speak about, how wild, harsh and impenetrable that wood is. Just thinking about it recreates the fear. It is scarcely less bitter than death, but in order to tell of the good that I found there, I must tell of the other things I saw there. --Dante, paraphrased

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                      Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

                      Cinders;1500688 wrote: As far as food addiction, I had gastric bypass in 2005. Once I started drinking alcohol, I became a complete alcoholic almost immediately.

                      Several people on MWO have had the same experience with GB and alcoholism.
                      Not just on MWO, Cindi. There's a recognised connection. This passage from Brain in Balance: Understanding the Genetics and Neurochemistry behind Alcoholism and Sobriety explains what's going on:

                      There are two different endocannabinoids, labeled CB1 and CB2, with ?CB? standing for ?cannabinoid.? The CB2 receptor sites are usually found in the periphery of the body and are involved in pain control issues. CB1 is tied to the sensation of appetite. It is found all through the brain and when activated, gives us what some recognize as the ?marijuana munchies.? One theory is that when the body is in need of fuel, the gut starts producing CB1 agonists that are then circulated in the blood, making you feel hungry. When the bowel is full, it shuts off and the munchies are gone. CB1 is also tied to some forms of depression. If there is inadequate CB1 activation, a person can get very depressed and even suicidal. There is a theory that gastric bypass surgery done in a Roux-n-Y method can lead to deficiencies of the CB1 activation due to the blind loop not having any food access and no CB1 output. The endocannabinoid system, interestingly enough, is also activated with alcohol, and it is not uncommon for the gastric outlet patients with a strong family history of alcoholism, to suddenly become active alcoholics. One theorized reason behind this occurrence is that these patients now have to depend on alcohol to strike CB1 receptors in the brain directly to satisfy the cravings that were previously satisfied by food in the gut. Within three months after a gastric bypass patient has had their stomach surgically downsized and the intestine switched around, alcohol goes through much more quickly than any food can and is rapidly absorbed. This leads to accelerated alcohol blood levels, intoxication, and a huge, highly euphoric dopamine release. This has been experienced by many gastric bypass patients who are genetically endowed with neurotransmitter imbalances.
                      "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                        Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

                        bcp2013;1500696 wrote: Hi,do you know if the doctors in Canada ,provide these drugs,thanks a lot for your info,have a Fab day!!
                        There is a post about bac in Toronto:

                        12-06-2011, 09:36 PM
                        baclofan
                        Member

                        Join Date: Dec 2011
                        Location: Toronto
                        Posts: 84
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                        Clinic in Toronto
                        [quote=NoWayOut;1134747]No Canadian Doc's yet?]


                        Doctors at the Addiction Medicine Clinic of the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health in Toronto do prescribe Baclofen. I know that for a fact because I'm a patient of that clinic.

                        Three weeks ago I was a hopeless full blown alcoholic, within a couple of weeks thanks to Baclofen the obsession of alcohol was just...gone!

                        Baclofen does wonders!
                        BACLOFENISTA

                        baclofenuk.com

                        http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





                        Olivier Ameisen

                        In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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                          Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

                          ifulovelife2;1501461 wrote: Not just on MWO, Cindi. There's a recognised connection. This passage from Brain in Balance: Understanding the Genetics and Neurochemistry behind Alcoholism and Sobriety explains what's going on:

                          There are two different endocannabinoids, labeled CB1 and CB2, with “CB” standing for “cannabinoid.” The CB2 receptor sites are usually found in the periphery of the body and are involved in pain control issues. CB1 is tied to the sensation of appetite. It is found all through the brain and when activated, gives us what some recognize as the “marijuana munchies.” One theory is that when the body is in need of fuel, the gut starts producing CB1 agonists that are then circulated in the blood, making you feel hungry. When the bowel is full, it shuts off and the munchies are gone. CB1 is also tied to some forms of depression. If there is inadequate CB1 activation, a person can get very depressed and even suicidal. There is a theory that gastric bypass surgery done in a Roux-n-Y method can lead to deficiencies of the CB1 activation due to the blind loop not having any food access and no CB1 output. The endocannabinoid system, interestingly enough, is also activated with alcohol, and it is not uncommon for the gastric outlet patients with a strong family history of alcoholism, to suddenly become active alcoholics. One theorized reason behind this occurrence is that these patients now have to depend on alcohol to strike CB1 receptors in the brain directly to satisfy the cravings that were previously satisfied by food in the gut. Within three months after a gastric bypass patient has had their stomach surgically downsized and the intestine switched around, alcohol goes through much more quickly than any food can and is rapidly absorbed. This leads to accelerated alcohol blood levels, intoxication, and a huge, highly euphoric dopamine release. This has been experienced by many gastric bypass patients who are genetically endowed with neurotransmitter imbalances.
                          I was told it's because after a bypass when you drink the alcohol goes straight into the upper part of the gut where absorption is much quicker - rather than hanging around in the stomach waiting to be absorbed.
                          I used the Sinclair Method to beat my alcoholic drinking.

                          Drank within safe limits for almost 2 years

                          AF date 22/07/13

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                            Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

                            Ukblonde;1502189 wrote: I was told it's because after a bypass when you drink the alcohol goes straight into the upper part of the gut where absorption is much quicker - rather than hanging around in the stomach waiting to be absorbed.
                            UKB, that would explain why one gets drunk quicker not why one is more likely to become an alcoholic.
                            "My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them." Jack Kerouac

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                              Radio programme on food addiction mentions medication

                              ifulovelife2;1502773 wrote: UKB, that would explain why one gets drunk quicker not why one is more likely to become an alcoholic.
                              They way it was explained to me was that could make you more likely to develop dependency?
                              I used the Sinclair Method to beat my alcoholic drinking.

                              Drank within safe limits for almost 2 years

                              AF date 22/07/13

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