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[john doe]

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Didn't sleep to well last night. I'd say I got 4 hours max of broken sleep. I'm getting those sensations you get where its like your heart jumps and your suddenly short of breath? Its hard to relax and it sort of knocks you awake. I've had these before through anxiety so they're not too worrying. Still feeling a bit drugged but nothing out of hand.

Its a strange feeling going on in my head. I don't know if I'm forcing myself to think about booze or if its still partly the cravings but its like the Baclofen is at work just blocking them out.

I had a can of beer last night and it was like the way I believe a non problem drinker probably looks at a beer as in, it tasted nice... was refreshing.... but I was drinking it for the taste and not the effects. It was my last one but I highly doubt I'd have has another.

A question I have is... When you hit indifference...

Do you stop thinking about booze altogether or is that a process of just forgetting over time. I'm probably over thinking at just 5 days in but I'm still thinking about booze but not craving it if that makes sense? Before starting, thinking about it would have gotten the craving running into full on madness with my brain just going into auto pilot.

[Colin]

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You're doing well. You will probably never completely stop thinking about alcoholic drinks whether or not you have drinking under control. I've been in the controlling position for more than a year and I'm still surprised by the frequency of these considerations.

[john doe]

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Colin;1503774 wrote: You're doing well. You will probably never completely stop thinking about alcoholic drinks whether or not you have drinking under control. I've been in the controlling position for more than a year and I'm still surprised by the frequency of these considerations.

Your probably right Colin. Time's a great healer as they say. With the craving out of the way it will probably make the process a lot easier.

[john doe]

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I think its taken 3-4 days (as I was told by some) to really get the Bac into my system. Yesterday I started to feel the SEs more than ever. More so than the previous 2 days that I was on the same dose. I really felt drugged out for most of the day.

I've been drugged out for most of my life so the feeling isn't alien to me. But I can imagine how people must feel who have never really felt anything like this before. I must be hard, scary even.

Nausea. dizziness, fogginess and that jumping heart feeling (I've no idea what the medical term for that is ) Best way to try and explain it is that I felt like being on drugs with out the good bits.

Gonna hang on this dose for a few days yet.

Regarding craving. Friday was always gonna be interesting as its ingrained in me to have a beer. I walked over to grab 5 cans. I knew I was just getting beer for the sake of it as 5 cans wouldn't touch the sides. I never had the intention to even drink all 5 I just had to have a beer (that auto pilot feeling)

I had 2 over 4 hours. The 3 in the fridge will do me tonight and tomorrow night also. Last weekend I had 32 cans

Forgot to add... It seems to take a couple of hours for the dose to really start hitting me. Yesterday for example I dosed at 11am. It was about 1pm when I really started to feel some SEs kicking in. Maybe I should say, its the SEs that take a few hours to kick in.

[StuckinLA]

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Sometimes doses seem to hit ya' a couple hours after you take them, yeah. But sometimes it's just a matter of how much you've got swimming around in your CNS on a daily basis, and not how much is hitting the bloodstream. So the mid afternoon is almost always a problem, no matter when you're taking pills. Believe it or not, taking smaller doses more often can actually help with that. 20 or so mg as often as every 2 hours seems to work pretty well. But it is a pain in the nuts to be tied to the pills and a stopwatch.

[john doe]

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Broken nights sleep last night but I seemed to drop off quicker again when I did wake. I've some Xanax on the way. Don't really want to go down that road but I have someone holding on to them for me so it should be ok.

The only SE that's really annoying me right now is one of those nervy nauseous feeling you get in your stomach. No craving at all really to report yesterday. I had a beer about 3pm just out of habit I suppose. Opened another at about 6pm and got up this morning and emptied near the full can out. Not to sure how much that nauseous feeling had to do with it but I don't really care, I've had 7 beers all week.

The whole half-life vs effects thing is interesting to me. I spit my dose in 2. Half at 11pm and the other at 3pm. I feel the full effect a good 2-3 hours after taking them. Maybe because the dose's are higher than the norm. I also am still feeling the effects when I wake up. I'd hazard a guess than high dose Baclofen imo definitely makes the effects longer lasting.

[john doe]

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Forgot to add... I've been pissing like a racehorse. Anyone else get this?

[StuckinLA]

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Yep. Bac goes through your kidneys. Make sure to keep yourself hydrated--and, I just recently learned, if you let yourself get dehydrated the SEs are worse.

[john doe]

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I remember reading something about the kidneys processing it.. Cheers LA. I drink a load of water but have noticed my first piss after waking up is like the colour of redbull. Must really dehydrate you alright.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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Bac doesn't dehydrate, JD. (At least I think it doesn't. I've never heard of that. But I haven't specifically looked for it. *sigh* Let's just go with the fact that there isn't anything in baclofen that would contribute to dehydration and leave it there before I get all wrapped up in it and have to spend 2 hours on google. :H)

It's just processed through the kidneys. Dehydration has all sorts of implications for medications, regardless of whether they go through (initially) the kidneys or the liver. In short, dehydration isn't good for you.

Isn't Red Bull pink? If your pee is pink you might want to look into that regardless of anything else.

[john doe]

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Is it pink right enough? I though it had more of an yellow hue to it I though it looked like dehydrated piss.

I don't touch the shit. I've just seen it in bars at a passing glance.

[bleep]

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I also thought it was yellow. Ne, you want to get your red bull looked at.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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john doe;1504627 wrote: Is it pink right enough? I though it had more of an yellow hue to it I though it looked like dehydrated piss.

I don't touch the shit. I've just seen it in bars at a passing glance.
bleep;1504642 wrote: I also thought it was yellow. Ne, you want to get your red bull looked at.

I've never seen a red bull apparently. My bad. Maybe I assumed it was red, 'cause well...duh. oops

[john doe]

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I'm starting to realise that there's going to be a bit more to things than just becoming indifferent to booze. They last few days my craving have been about 30% of what they usually are and I'm thinking more and more about a sober life as it seems to get closer.

What I realise is... My life is absolutely f**king empty. I've let booze totally take over my life. The last few years I've basically withdrawn from whatever little social contact I had. I sort of had to as most of my contact was seriously counter productive (lots of drugs).

Take booze out of the equation and I've very little going on. The last few days I've really noticed this. There's going to be some serious rebuilding ahead. I'd compare it to someone getting out of prison after say 5 years. Maybe not as extreme but not far off. When your in such a set routine day in day out you don't see the years going by. I couldn't name 5 memorable moments in the last 7 years since I turned 30. I honestly haven't been out of a 5 mile radius of where I live in the last 2 years.

Its a good feeling, a little overwhelming but nice all the same.

[Hippyman]

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john doe;1504692 wrote: I'm starting to realise that there's going to be a bit more to things than just becoming indifferent to booze. They last few days my craving have been about 30% of what they usually are and I'm thinking more and more about a sober life as it seems to get closer.

What I realise is... My life is absolutely f**king empty. I've let booze totally take over my life. The last few years I've basically withdrawn from whatever little social contact I had. I sort of had to as most of my contact was seriously counter productive (lots of drugs).

Take booze out of the equation and I've very little going on. The last few days I've really noticed this. There's going to be some serious rebuilding ahead. I'd compare it to someone getting out of prison after say 5 years. Maybe not as extreme but not far off. When your in such a set routine day in day out you don't see the years going by. I couldn't name 5 memorable moments in the last 7 years since I turned 30. I honestly haven't been out of a 5 mile radius of where I live in the last 2 years.

Its a good feeling, a little overwhelming but nice all the same.

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