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    Hello everybody. I'm new here and recently had a few posts on the last Dr L thread, but wanted to introduce myself to MWO. I'm 31 year old guy who went to rehab earlier this year for my abuse of alcohol and several other narcotics. My doc tried me on a few different meds after I left rehab (Wellbutrin, handfuls of gabapentin, etc), and when he mentioned a drug I'd never heard of called baclofen that he thought could help my stimulant cravings, I filled the prescription and left it in the cabinet awhile. One day when I finally tried it, I noticed that I rather liked this obscure little drug. So I tried it in increasingly larger amounts and once I reached the 100ish mg mark...WOW. Suddenly I noticed that any thought of a glass of scotch, powder up my nose, or inhalation of corrosive smoke sounded kinda disgusting. So I was able to convince my doc to go up to 120 mg/day. I suddenly felt like an actual participant in my own life. Whoa. It felt good.
    It felt SO good in fact, that a couple months later I rambled off into my doc's ears how amazing I felt, and how confident I was in my sobriety. Instead of seeing this as a positive change for me, he felt that I was just "high" again and claimed I was in a mania. I pleaded with him, but he took me off baclofen anyway.
    I've been longing to get back on board, but if any new doc sees my medical records they might be hesitant to prescribe it based on what my previous one did. So I guess I'm gonna have to look overseas now.
    I am also curious about phenibut and its similarities to how it feels compared to baclofen. I'm sure it's not a viable option in comparison. Anyway, that's my introduction. Thanks.
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    Hi Corleone, and welcome. Your doctor's reaction actually isn't all that surprising to me. Malpractice lawsuits are as American as apple pie and baseball. Also, I can't help but to wonder if doctors are getting kickbacks for prescribing expensive drugs. One addiction shrink I went to see wanted to start me on Vivitrol, which is injectable naltrexone. I nearly choked when she told me it would cost about $1,100/month. I keep telling my own shrink that I can't stay on Campral at $200/month when it isn't covered by insurance. Plus, I don't think Campral does anything. When you can buy 270 tablets of baclofen for $30, it seems criminal.

    Anyway, I personally would steer clear of phenibut. I've never used it, and from the sound of it, it sounds like you would be trading up addictions. Apparently it's euphoric effects stop taking effect pretty quickly with regular use and withdrawal symptoms are supposedly similar to benzo withdrawal.

    Anyway, good luck finding another source of bac. I think my shrink is a bit of a hack and have been looking for alternatives, but so far no other viable doctor has presented themselves, so I think I'm just going to go back to him armed with Dr. Ameisen's book and the two documents posted in the Dr. Levin thread and hope for the best.
    In the middle of my life's journey, I found myself in a dark wood, as I had lost the straight path. It is a difficult thing to speak about, how wild, harsh and impenetrable that wood is. Just thinking about it recreates the fear. It is scarcely less bitter than death, but in order to tell of the good that I found there, I must tell of the other things I saw there. --Dante, paraphrased

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      #3
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      I've known quite a few friends on that pricey, pricey Vivitrol. And they get it from my doc as well. We rehab graduates have the same guy and we talk to each other a lot.
      It's gonna be tough to stomach the hundreds of dollars a month I'll probably spend versus the $30 pharmacy cost. But if it has to happen that way, so be it.

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        Corleone25;1545434 wrote: It's gonna be tough to stomach the hundreds of dollars a month I'll probably spend versus the $30 pharmacy cost. But if it has to happen that way, so be it.
        Ah, ok, I know what you mean about manic, which I didn't get in the other thread. It happened to me too, I loved it. It passes though.

        Out of interest, when your doctor decided to take you off baclofen after being on it for a couple of months, how did he go about it? Just stopped the prescription and moved on to other things?

        Rather than going the Vivitrol route, look into baclofen further. Either get it from an online pharmacy, or look to the liquid. It doesn't have to be a way charted by your doctor, you can decide for yourself what course to steer here.

        Best of luck.

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          Bleep: He stopped the baclofen pretty abruptly and labeled the manic symptoms a result of having undiagnosed bipolar. So he put me on Prozac and lamictal, claiming that the lamictal would work wonders for me. It's done absolutely nothing for me. I wake up every morning saying to myself: "Time to swallow my 'pointless pills'." I know he's covering his ass and it's not surprising at all. I should've responded with less enthusiasm for baclofen in that appointment, but I wanted to tell the world how strongly it was working for me.

          Pal: I've read some bad things about phenibut and I'm definitely not looking for something that I can't regulate on a daily basis. I don't want to feel good for three days a week and shitty for the other four.

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            Thanks for the informative thread Cor. And Bleep, you explain a little further what you meant by: (Does not have to be chartered?)

            bleep;1545481 wrote:

            Rather than going the Vivitrol route, look into baclofen further. Either get it from an online pharmacy, or look to the liquid. It doesn't have to be a way charted by your doctor, you can decide for yourself what course to steer here.

            Best of luck.

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              #7
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              You can decide for yourself what route to take. Baclofen, Vivitrol, etc.

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                #8
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                It will definitely be baclofen. I really have no interest in the vivitrol shot.

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