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    Drinking more while tritating up

    I'm ashamed to say it but I've actually started drinking more as ive begun tritating up. Drinking now doesn't have the same effect on me, it's like Baclofen reduces the euphoria from drinking . I try to use this to my advantage by saying to myself, just have a few drinks so i can sleep and then stop since it won't be worth my while to drink anymore. Once i start drinking however i loose my inhibitions and think "screw it" see if i can get a bit drunker. This leads me to drinking more than i normally do.

    The strange thing is that my cravings have massively reduced to the point i feel i could go AF. However even though my cravings are reduced, i find that once i have a few drinks, the inhibitions go away and the cravings come back. So perhaps just not having that first drink is key, which should be easier to resist with the baclofen.

    I'm on 125mg a day at the moment, the side effects are starting to get to me, especially the negative effects from drinking are worse now, particularly the anxiety the next day.

    I plan on going AF next week and see how i go with cravings.

    Has anyone experienced anything like this when going up in dose?
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    Drinking more while tritating up

    I noticed that I feel less afraid of drinking and the consequences it has. I feel less afraid in general. But that's different than what you mention. I don't experience less effect from alcohol. It's easier for me to stop. But I only tried to drink once since on Baclofen.

    Yes, I think the first drink is the key. I know there's a lot of discussion on this point, but I'm convinced when you drink while titrating up the side-effects are worse, the benefits are less and the negative effects of drinking are worse. It seems to ease withdrawal, though.

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      Drinking more while tritating up

      Bac seems to be most effective if you can pair it with some AF time to let it "take effect" better. When still drinking on bac, the SE's are usually worse. I myself paired bac with an antabuse-assisted 30 days AF and with the two meds paired up, it's been surprisingly easy (believe me, this was NEVER EVER EVER the case previously). Maybe something to consider? However you do it, getting some AF time will usually enable the bac to really work its magic.

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        Yeah the SEs are way worse if you're also drinking. The hangovers are awful and bizarre. And yeah bac does kill the buzz a little bit. And then there are times that a drink or 2 can actually take the edge off the SEs, it just depends.

        When I was in the moderate-to-high-ish doses I found that I wouldn't really feel drunk, but instead of caring about that to the point of drinking more I'd just get a little sad. I felt like I couldn't hang anymore, and would just leave the bar instead of trying, because I realized that I didn't really want to drink (get drunk), and so what was the point. Of course there were a few times that I put away quite a bit of booze, too. It was just a weird time.

        I guess all that is to say I agree with skull, if you can try some AF time it would probably help a lot. I know it sounds dumb--you're taking bac to stop drinking, and you should stop drinking to take bac. It's like the AA saying "this program works a lot better if you're sober."

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          Drinking more while tritating up

          StuckinLA;1553161 wrote: Yeah the SEs are way worse if you're also drinking. The hangovers are awful and bizarre. And yeah bac does kill the buzz a little bit. And then there are times that a drink or 2 can actually take the edge off the SEs, it just depends.

          When I was in the moderate-to-high-ish doses I found that I wouldn't really feel drunk, but instead of caring about that to the point of drinking more I'd just get a little sad. I felt like I couldn't hang anymore, and would just leave the bar instead of trying, because I realized that I didn't really           want to drink (get drunk), and so what was the point. Of course there were a few times that I put away quite a bit of booze, too. It was just a weird time.

          I guess all that is to say I agree with skull, if you can try some AF time it would probably help a lot. I know it sounds dumb--you're taking bac to stop drinking, and you should stop drinking to take bac. It's like the AA saying "this program works a lot better if you're sober."
          It seems then that baclofen is a much more complex beast then i thought. I've gone many pages back into the forum, it was my understanding that one day you would just wake up and not feel like drinking anymore. Seems it's not that simple.

          Horrible and bizarre is a good way to put it, especially the terrible anxiety and denationalization would fit in with the bizarre

          Everything you say resonates with me now though, in fact i dont really want to keep drinking, i just do because every time i've quit before I've had to white knuckle it in regards to the cravings, so i always am waiting to mentally fortify myself and to get up as high as i can with the baclofen before taking the plunge. I think now im ready though, tomorrow will be day no 1.

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            Denationalization? First time I've seen questioning citizenship come up as a SE of baclofen. But I've seen a lot, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

            Pardon me, Eagle. I am not taking your challenges lightly. Bac CAN BE horrible and bizarre. But isn't always, and everything can change in a day -- or less. Very good that you are reading up. These threads are a gold mine - no, make that a platinum mine of knowledge and experience that can help you a lot.

            As has already been mentioned, it seems pretty consistent that the less you drink the easier it is, but hey - it takes what it takes. You can read some stories of folks who appear to go from hopeless to freedom, back to hopeless, then free, and about every variation you could never imagine; and all of that will help you find YOUR way out. You've come a ways - don't stop. Liberation is awesome!!
            "Wherever you are is the entry point." --Kabir

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              Drinking more while tritating up

              Hey! We haven't met, but I'll throw in some thoughts for you...

              Baclofen doesn't have to suck that much. If it does, then there are a couple of things you can do without waving the white flag. I'm sure you can guess what they are.

              Booze makes everything worse.
              Too much baclofen is just that.
              Small changes can have a dramatic impact. 10mg may make all the difference in the world.

              Reading, posting and getting support could mean the difference between getting (contentedly) sober or not. just sayin'

              Good luck. Hang in there.

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                #8
                Drinking more while tritating up

                the sae happened to me

                Eagle, what you described in your first post, the exact same happened to me! Best is not to start, or just have one small glas.

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                  Drinking more while tritating up

                  Drinking on Bac is brutal and I tend to get a wee bit mentally unstable for a better word. In a perfect word titrating up AF would be beautiful but the booze has a way of getting the better of you.

                  I gonna head to the doctor the day after tomorrow to talk about my anxiety. I've been using benzos of late which have taken car of most of my issues but without them its hard going.

                  Intrusive thoughts (Really bad)
                  Physical anxiety to the point I can't walk on a busy road
                  I haven't been in a city centre in over 2 years
                  I can't go to the dentist or to get blood taken because of fear of a panic attack. (fainted last time)
                  Can't stop thinking about the most fucked up stuff
                  Fear
                  Paranoia

                  The funny thing is I can't take benzos as I abuse them

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                    #10
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                    Double up on your drinking and then feel really bad. JK. Good luck with your program. (or maybe, just take the plunge and quit drinking)

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                      Drinking more while tritating up

                      spiritwolf333;1557760 wrote: (or maybe, just take the plunge and quit drinking)
                      I know what you mean Spirit but I suppose its easier said than done or Baclofen wouldn't even be needed I suppose. I tried it myself as the alcohol related SEs are brutal but the craving just gets too much some times.

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                        Eagle-I think u ment depersonalization or derealiaziton. Can happen on Baclofen,Its worse with with Bac+alcohol esp when hungover.

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