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    Baclofen, a personal journey.

    Hi all,

    I am Indygo.
    You might have, by now, seen me around the forum, putting my 2 cents in here and there.
    I could have, should have, but refrained myself from putting myself out there too much.

    I am opinionated, but I would like to think that everything that I state can be backed up by research and otherwise I will make it clear that it is my own opinion. And by that I mean a personal opinion only!

    Please feel free to comment and/or offer support or comments.
    That's why I am putting myself and my soul out here in the first place, but please remember that feelings are involved. Namely mine!

    Thanks!

    Ok here we go:


    I consider that I am an Early Onset Alcoholic (EOA, as opposed to Late Onset Alcoholic, LOA), as I have had problems with drinking since my teens. I started drinking when I was 13 years of age and have only had two periods of long abstinence: first in 1997, while I was pregnant with my daughter (9 months); second in 2008, following a month in rehab (16 months). Following my daughter’s birth, when I was 25, my tolerance for alcohol lowered significantly; whereas previously I was always able to drink large amounts and would not necessarily be affected by intense intoxicating effects. Daily drinking crept up since my early twenties, but was firmly established at 26 years of age.

    Furthermore, I have experienced many alcohol-related problems (e.g. loss of licence, relationship problems, legal problems), I have a family history of both male and female alcoholic relatives (e.g. mother, sister, brother, and the maternal side of the family had many members who have had issues with alcohol), childhood behavioural problems (e.g. very shy and insecure, and a withdrawn attitude), craving (uncontrollable), high sensation-seeking behaviour (moved out of home at 17, drug taking, ......., international travel at 19 years of age, ..........), mood disturbance (e.g. looking back I believe that I had my first Major Depressive Episode while I was 15 years of age).

    Alright, as it is now: I am in a happy committed relationship and have been for the last, almost 14 but still, 13 years.

    I have a double bachelor degree, which I finally finished while being sober following my stint in an expensive rehab.

    I also have have attained half a post grad associates degree in criminology.

    However, all of that doesn't freaking matter because although I can research and write about research very well... I am still a mighty messed up drunk.
    I finished my studies two years ago. I started applying for jobs very enthusiastically, thinking a double degree would surely mean something. An average of 80%, surely that would land me a job.

    Well it didn't. It means nothing.
    Yep you can be good at researching, or good at communicating with others, but....

    Oh I forgot to mention my

    Anyways I am actually over it. I have read so much of this forum, like I did last time I joined when Topiramate first came about as a so called drug for alcohol.

    However, I still hold much better hope for Baclofen.

    Indygo

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    Baclofen, a personal journey.

    hey Indy,

    I've noticed you popping up in the threads with your avatar, it's odd how we all seem to have cats and dogs, maybe it means something about us or our condition?:baaah:

    whats your current alcohol consumption? What have your prior attempts at getting AF been like, what therapy and medications have you tried already? Are you on baclofen already? Any other psychological disorders or substance abuse problems you have?

    good luck going forward
    01-01-2014 - Indifference reached, success with high dose Baclofen 295mg.

    Baclofen prescribing guide

    Baclofen for alcoholism - Consolidated Information - Studies, prescribing guides, links

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      #3
      Baclofen, a personal journey.

      Good morning/afternoon, Indy.

      We have a lot in common. A surprising amount, actually, even for these boards. In my family, I am the 4th generation with the disease. My brother's got it too, though he hasn't started to deal with the repercussions yet. (As far as I know! So much secretive-ness in this disease...)

      An official welcome to you. I love the fact that you've started a thread and are sharing your story. I know it can be nerve-wracking, but it really helped me and I made some really good friends here.

      Criminology is interesting. I'm actually really struggling trying to make sense of criminal behavior and it's relationship to mental illness and this disease in particular. Or rather, I keep wondering about the ramifications of our penal system and the inherent conflict on protecting society versus protecting (and treating) the individual. But that's a tangled tangent that doesn't need to be explored here and now. Still, very interesting.

      As for the rest...HA! Clearly I feel strongly about the erroneous input that some of our members share. I'll leave it at that for the moment and perhaps come back to it later. (Probably not, though. You'll notice that I generally just stop posting on those threads because it simply contributes to the drama and draws attention to information that's wrong and possibly really harmful. Better to accept defeat and move on, because I'm VERY clear I will never be able to communicate in a way that the people who believe that stuff will hear. I've been at it for years and still haven't made any headway. :H Anyhoo...)

      Interestingly, topa does have some nominal success. And more interesting (to me, anyway) the anti-seizure meds seem to hold a part of the key. But rest assured, bac is a completely different animal. It is (again, imho) not so much anti-craving as anti-alcoholism.

      Hang in there. It works.

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        #4
        Baclofen, a personal journey.

        In Oz:

        http://i.imgur.com/6EFryC0.gif

        Please, for the love of all good things, tell me that you don't have spiders like that.

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          #5
          Baclofen, a personal journey.

          Ne/Neva Eva;1590531 wrote: In Oz:

          http://i.imgur.com/6EFryC0.gif

          Please, for the love of all good things, tell me that you don't have spiders like that.
          This is fake. Source: I (also) spend too much time on reddit.

          -tk
          TerryK celebrates 6 years of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

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            #6
            Baclofen, a personal journey.

            Hmmm better go and edit some of my very ordinary drunken ramblings from last night. Sorry folks, sure everybody here has had enough of foolish drunken louts.
            I can turn into a bit of a troll when I've been drinking. I will try very hard not too post in future when I am in that state of mind.

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              #7
              Baclofen, a personal journey.

              I suspected that may have been a drunken post with the last few paragraphs, but don't worry myself and im sure others on here done worse when intoxicated.

              keep posting. Discussion is always a good thing to move forward.
              01-01-2014 - Indifference reached, success with high dose Baclofen 295mg.

              Baclofen prescribing guide

              Baclofen for alcoholism - Consolidated Information - Studies, prescribing guides, links

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                #8
                Baclofen, a personal journey.

                terryk;1590573 wrote: This is fake. Source: I (also) spend too much time on reddit.

                -tk
                I know, but it's funny. And in all honesty it made me jump when the damn thing lunged for his face. lolol

                Ah, reddit...So much random amusement.

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                  #9
                  Baclofen, a personal journey.

                  Ne/Neva Eva;1590531 wrote: In Oz:

                  http://i.imgur.com/6EFryC0.gif

                  Please, for the love of all good things, tell me that you don't have spiders like that.
                  Haha no thank heavens lol.

                  To answer some of your questions Neo:

                  I started taking Bac in August and I used Ameisen's dosing schedule of going up every 3 days by 10mg (I think that's what it was from memory, I've lend the book out so I cannot check).
                  The first week I went on a 5 day bender! The longest bender I have ever had. Ended up in ER with some serious suicide plans that I was going enact upon. I actually got my partner to take me in, as I was losing my mind.
                  Caused by bac? I don't think so. For one reason or another finally to be able to start taking this med gave me a reason to let all stops go.
                  I was still in my old frame of mind, where drinking meant that I would't eat and after that many days of drinking I didn't sleep much either. That will fry your brain.

                  After 12 hours in ER I was assessed by the Mental health team in the morning and send home, as I am an alcoholic!
                  Don't worry I put up a fight, stating that mental health issues go hand in hand with addictions and what not, but the prick kept getting back to alcohol being the main reason for me ending in ER. Not my mental health issues.
                  He gave me a card with a phone number to ring. The number referred to a crisis-service for alcoholics. As I did some volunteering for Lifeline at the time I asked him if they would answer in the same methodological manner. "Uhm I suppose so", he said. Well that wouldn't work for me than would it. The fucker. Although good services for some, but not if you know that you will get a sympathetic ear for a while, ways to keep safe will follow, then the call will be focused all the while building on your past strengths, you will be guided to plan follow up and send on your way with a cheery "you can always call back if you feel the need". WTF was that going to do for me?

                  He also suggested I reach out to AA. Haha what a joke. Last insult was that he said that everybody would like some time in psych ward to relax!
                  I don't think it helped that I actually knew more about comorbidity than this so called assessor. I have degrees in psychology and addiction studies. I was going to keep that quiet on this forum, as I am by no means an expert!!

                  Anyway to keep a long story short
                  My anger kept me sober for 5 whole days. Then it was back to normal.

                  I will write some other time about why the dosing schedule was way too high and quick for me. I got up to 235mg very fast, stayed there for about 10 days I think, and tapered down slowly to 150mg. I stayed there for at least a month.

                  As of today I am now on 160mg. I go up every Wednesday by 5mg.
                  30mg at 7am
                  50mg at 1pm
                  80mg at 6pm

                  I will leave it at that for now.
                  Cheerio

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                    #10
                    Baclofen, a personal journey.

                    Ne/Neva Eva;1590519 wrote: Good morning/afternoon, Indy.

                    My brother's got it too, though he hasn't started to deal with the repercussions yet.

                    Interestingly, topa does have some nominal success. And more interesting (to me, anyway) the anti-seizure meds seem to hold a part of the key. But rest assured, bac is a completely different animal. It is (again, imho) not so much anti-craving as anti-alcoholism.
                    Re your brother (I still can't work out the multi-quoting feature grrr), my brother has definitely got it, but he doesn't acknowledge it. His reasoning is that he only drinks beer. Whaha, but at least 12 of them every night in his "brown pub" that he made himself at the back of his house.
                    Denial much. Hehe.

                    My mums 9 brothers and sisters have all died of alcohol related illnesses and diseases. All nine of them! My mum from a stroke (smoking a packet of cigarettes a day helped with that one also ), a couple from liver-disease, one from Korsakoff's etc.

                    I do believe that Topa works for some, but for me it did nothing. It was extremely expensive and the side effects were horrible. Although one side effect was rather pleasant, as the big O became an even bigger O lol.

                    Thanks for your reply Ne.

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                      #11
                      Baclofen, a personal journey.

                      MissIndygo;1590718 wrote:

                      My mums 9 brothers and sisters have all died of alcohol related illnesses and diseases. All nine of them!
                      Thought you were from Oz, not Eire. (Kidding.)

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                        #12
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                        Haha the Netherlands actually
                        First 20 years in the Netherlands and the last 22 in Australia.

                        Oh I did mean 9 in total btw. Might have come across differently I just realised.

                        My mum was from a rather old-fashioned catholic family. In those days the church still encouraged them to keep pro-creating haha.
                        Quite a few generations removed from me tho, as she was 37 when she had me. The last one to make it four.

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                          #13
                          Baclofen, a personal journey.

                          where about's in Aus are you located Indy?

                          Sydney reporting in
                          01-01-2014 - Indifference reached, success with high dose Baclofen 295mg.

                          Baclofen prescribing guide

                          Baclofen for alcoholism - Consolidated Information - Studies, prescribing guides, links

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                            #14
                            Baclofen, a personal journey.

                            I'm on the border of NSW and Vic.

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                              #15
                              Baclofen, a personal journey.

                              I heart the Dutch. So practical and reasonable! Smart, healthy, rich...The Netherlands has got it all going on. It all started with Lowcountryman. Before I met him (here) all I knew about the Netherlands was drugs and prostitutes. I lived in Asia for a while and drugs and prostitutes are not something I associate with practical, reasonable, healthy, smart and rich. (Ugh. Just the opposite.) And JoannaD sealed the deal for me. I can make assumptions about a lot of the world based on whom I've met here! Apparently it's a good thing that I don't live in the UK, since I tend to irritate British middle-aged male expats. :H Their antipathy is practically universal!

                              So. What're your stats, Indy? How much booze and when? When did you start bac and how much are you taking now? I feel like I know the answers but I don't know if they're all here and people find that kind of thing helpful when they're looking...

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