anyone on nal/tsm

[spuddleduck]

I've been dabbling with nal for a while with degrees of success.just wondering if anyone out there is starting on nal or had recent experience.I've read through ukblondes wonderful thread.it seems to not be too popular here so just asking.thanks

[bkyogagurl]

anyone on nal/tsm

Hi Spud-
I am just attempting a second try on Nal. I tried it a few years ago but don't think I took it long enough. So I am back to give it a real try. I have talked with UkB a bit so her encouragement to stay on for at least 6 months is my goal. I may need longer. I have had trouble with alcohol for a long time.
We could try together if you want. Let each other know how our drinking sessions go.
I took it tonight 100mg because I will probably have some wine. I had a totally bender on Saturday, I took my Nal but just didn't work. I have been taking it when I drink for about a month & it has slowed me down. Just not Saturday.
Would love to hear where you are with it.

[YouKayBee]

anyone on nal/tsm

Good to see you back Spuddleduck, I was thinking about you the other day and have done on and off for a while.

Have you looked at the sinclair forum?There's several people on there who have been what they call 'cured' with nal.

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One thing I've picked up on is impatience and inconsistency. TSM can take 6-12 months and for the best chance you have to be consistent which = not drinking without it. I know it's a pain especially when there are ups and downs and of course all the head games alcohol plays with you. I'm one of those annoying stick at it to the very end people, which is what I always did with alcohol, but also why it worked so well.

From what I see the main reasons TSM doesn't work is either genetic reasons OR inconsistency.

[spuddleduck]

anyone on nal/tsm

hi both.good to hear from you.my efforts with nal so far.if i take it1 hour before drinking it has very little effect.tried 1 pill and 2 pill.if i wait 3 hours i absolutely can't drink. believe me i tried. somewhere in between i had a great event.i had a few drinks.well quite a lot in the end.i drunk more slowly and was much more in control...no blackout.things have got very silly lately and i need to up my efforts. am struggling to type this in on my phone so i will post in tomorrow on computer to go into further detail.yes it would be good to compare our efforts. sorry if any odd spelling or words.can't get hang of this phone

[YouKayBee]

anyone on nal/tsm

spuddleduck;1591336 wrote: hi both.good to hear from you.my efforts with nal so far.if i take it1 hour before drinking it has very little effect.tried 1 pill and 2 pill.if i wait 3 hours i absolutely can't drink. believe me i tried. somewhere in between i had a great event.i had a few drinks.well quite a lot in the end.i drunk more slowly and was much more in control...no blackout.things have got very silly lately and i need to up my efforts. am struggling to type this in on my phone so i will post in tomorrow on computer to go into further detail.yes it would be good to compare our efforts. sorry if any odd spelling or words.can't get hang of this phone

I know it doesn't sound like fun but would seem might be a plan to take yours 3 hours before. Anything that stops you drinking in my opinion is good.

Do you find winter harder than summer?

[bkyogagurl]

anyone on nal/tsm

Me too... It does seem like the longer I wait the more unappealing drinking becomes. I took 100 mg yesterday. Drank quite a bit but it was a lot more controlled & didn't end up drunk at the end of the night. My husband & I had a nice conversation before we went to bed. I like remembering the night. I did notice when I started getting slurred speech something I don't normally recognize. Made an attempt to drink some water.
I took 100mg a little more than an hour ago & I just took an extra 25mg to up it since today is Thanksgiving & I know I will start drinking soon. It is interesting because I am not dying to have a drink. It's almost like I could take it or leave it. I do know once I get started I will see where I land because I usually like to keep going. I just hate the fact that I am thinking about it so much and technically worrying about when it's going to happen & if I will have a good night. Feels good to talk about it.

UkB- I can't thank you enough for being present here & lending your support. It means a lot to me to have your experience & guidance. Sometimes it does feel a little frustrating because I want for so much to be where you are. I listened to Claudia C. Podcast. She was lucky to be an immediate responder but I am not having that luck. I will keep plugging along due to UKB's advice and I am not giving up.
It takes as long as it take. I do think it is helping.
Well friends I am cooking a big meal for my family. Have a great day.
I am so thankful for you.
S

[jokerman]

anyone on nal/tsm

Hi BKyoga gurl ,

I am on tsm for 13 weeks and have noticed little difference , but am very optimistic as I know it takes some of us a lot longer to take effect . I have been using 50 mg but I am thinking about increasing it to 75 or maybe 100 as other people have got good results from this . I see you said you drank recently and had a lot more control , what is your opinion about increasing the dose , congrats on your progress all the best . j.

[spuddleduck]

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still on mobile so will be brief.bky your experience sounds similar to mine.the awareness of the effect which i never have usually. jokerman how about a longer time before drinking.it made a huge difference to me.i pretty much could not drink. though i always feel a bit groggy after pill and go to bed.not always ideal. ukb yes the obvious answer is wait 3 hours...hmm what does that tell me. for the.last year or so i.have mostly been drinking once a week but the last few weeks I've gone mental.drinking daily when i could and some sneaky morning drink.i have managed to rein it in and am5 days af.this crazy binge was a reaction to some crap..job loss and other stuff will explain another time. i don't feel i can be af at moment and i know i will sink low if i try and fail. i think what Im trying for now is to .a. not drink as a reaction to things and to ALWAYS take nal if i choose to drink. i have 2 planned days coming up so i will keep you updated. its not ideal but its the best i can manage just now. so much for being brief ... its taken ages to post this...my thumbs aren't up to speed

[spuddleduck]

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just remembered. does it make a big difference if you take nal on full or empty.stomach can't
work it out but sometimes i take it and feel ok othertime i feel really woozy and tired....this is both when i don't then proceed to drinking. I must say as well how easily i slipped back into crazy daily drinking. i really can't take my eye off the ball. made xmas cake today.didn't dare get brandy to put in it

[spuddleduck]

anyone on nal/tsm

bky just re read your post. i too felt much less urgency to drink. i could drink at least a couple without feeling manic for the next drink so nal is definitely doing things to me but as ukb points out it needs consistency.... and perhaps a bit more to be in control

[YouKayBee]

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spuddleduck;1591851 wrote: just remembered. does it make a big difference if you take nal on full or empty.stomach can't
work it out but sometimes i take it and feel ok othertime i feel really woozy and tired....this is both when i don't then proceed to drinking. I must say as well how easily i slipped back into crazy daily drinking. i really can't take my eye off the ball. made xmas cake today.didn't dare get brandy to put in it

With food, also making sure you are fed and don't miss meals can help with cravings in general.

Yeah if you are having episodes drinking without Nal then you run the risk of undoing what you've done, reverse the process, and Dr Eskapa (who wrote a book on TSM) says he's proved it reverses quicker than it takes to fix.

[bkyogagurl]

anyone on nal/tsm

Joker- sounds like you have been on Nal a bit longer than me. I know it can get discouraging because even in with my 4 weeks of use I want to see solid results. Baby steps is what I keep reminding myself. I think an increase might help. I am trying different dosages. I tried a 200mg dose & it did help with the drinking a lot but I felt agitated on that high of a dosage. So I am going to progressively try building to that dosage instead of jumping up. I tried 125mg last night but still maganed to drink quite a bit but the one thing I notice is I'm not hungover so it must be helping because normally I get nasty hangovers. I do remember talking in circles last night to my husband. It was kind of embarrassing but I'm glad I remember it. So maybe that is another progress. I used to blackout and not remember going to bed. Both nights of heavy drinking this week I remembered going to bed.
I am going to try to go AF for the rest of the weekend. I am trying not to drink to many days in a row. I want to give my body time to recuperate and process the poison.

Spud- I was told to eat a good solid meal & take your Nal. I try to eat regularly because I would rather drink my dinner than eat it. But I have been making an effort to eat meals as best I can. I am not such a big eater like I was when I was younger. I think this really contributes to over drinking. If you are full I think there isn't as much room for alcohol. Maybe.... I have felt tired after taking Nal so I took a short nap. Not only prolonging the time til I drink but feels refreshing too.

I will anxious to hear how all are doing. It's always hard for me not to keeping drinking after a couple days of it. Especially with the weekend here. I always feel like there is some special deal with the weekends like it's my time or something. I don't like to drink on days that the kids have school because I don't want to smell like alcohol or drive with a hangover because I hate the feeling of being buzzed in the morning- and that is something I haven't felt the last few times I drank either.
If I do give in & drink I will take 150mg or maybe even higher.

Big hug to all.

[spuddleduck]

anyone on nal/tsm

thanks ukb. today was gonna be perhaps a drinking day. i knew i was picking Mr spud up from pub and i was dam determined to take a pill at the time to work for me. i didn't for reasons we prob all know. so picked Mr spuddleduck up from pub. got home and stuffed my face full of wine. just told Mr spuds to take phone from me as i knew i was in fear of of drunk in charge of phone..then he pissed me off... calling me a weak pathetic ashore....don't need that so am taking dog for a walk

[jokerman]

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Hi Spud , I normally wait about 90 minutes , I think it will just take time . BK yoga , I blackout always on social occasions its very annoying , so I think I will up the dose slowly , if the blackouts stop and I get more control that will be a great step forward . All the best to everyone

[YouKayBee]

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Sorry to hear that spuds.

If you have drinking sessions without Nal then you are likely to be undoing the good it's done on other occasions hence no progress. Unfortunately there's no magic pill to take the pill!

Suppose I was lucky I can get really OCD about stuff if I want to and I was adamant I'd not drink without it.

Mr Spuds sounds like he's frustrated, doesn't help but it's also sad. Sounds like he wants you to get sorted.