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[Jazi's Mum]

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Hi spuddleduck and good morning. Isn't amazing how alike we all are? We're from different countries, we have different backgrounds, family histories, some married, some single, some with kids, some without, some drink lots, some a little - but we ALL beat ourselves up and feel worse because of that. Here are some words of wisdom from The Four Agreements that I just dug out and re-read - #4:

4. Always Do Your Best: 
Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgment, self-abuse, and regret.

If you've done your best to struggle through another day of drinking, well, that was the best you could accomplish on that day. Next day you go through your day sober and feel good - that was your best on that day.

It is hard to keep this thought in mind. After all we don't CHOOSE to be drunks do we? We do our best! We just have to appreciate that our best will change as we get less and less sick and more and more healthy! Not sure any of this makes sense but it's clear in my head!!!

At least that's how I'd like to start thinking for the New Year. Love to you. JMum

[spuddleduck]

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thanks for those words of wisdom jmum. what is the Four Agreements, a book? yes, if I can truly say I have 'done my best' on a particular day, without using it as an excuse then yes no beating up needed. funny isn't it, if anyone read the posts on this board who hadn't had out problem with alcohol it would look crazy (well it does to us at times as well). we struggle on and on with this drinking knowing how crap both physically and mentally it makes us feel. wouldn't a sane person say 'well just stop then'. ha if only It was that easy.
I had a good day today out walking with dog then went for meal with mr spuds NO ALCOHOL. the restaurant was fairly busy and I found myself watching other people drinking.... people sipping a glass of wine, lasting the whole meal..... NOT A BLOODY CHANCE OF THAT FOR ME. so had a huge glass of lime with soda water and really enjoyed my meal. would have been a totally different story if I had been boozy. im also making sure that I also have nal with me at all times as a craving or whatever we want to call can just appear from nowhere. so im glad to say im still with the plan.

[spuddleduck]

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bkyoga, hope you had a good day today. Christmas is a tough time as everyone seems to be overindulging. still never know if it is morning noon or night where you and others are. well its 22.30pm here and im very pleased to have successfully negotiated my way through another day. im finding Im having lots of thoughts and questions popping into my head, most likely caused by the thoughts and questions posted here. I tend to keep thoughts and questions tucked away ..... all to come out in a crazy confusion of booziness. well I guess this all needs working on. ive said many times before that there is a whole lot more involved in not drinking than simply not drinking (there I go again talking in circles)

[spiritwolf333]

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Hi spud -xmas is a tough time for so many. Keep posting. You have a great thread so keep it up.

[spuddleduck]

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my first thoughts today were not about drinking or not drinking. they were about how many steps I can do today on my new activitiy monitor. I know it will just be a fad and I will be back on the sofa before long but im enjoying it while I can. with this in mind I feel fairly confident I wont be drinking today.
im thinking of going out and drinking on new years eve. for the last 3 years I have been sober on Nye and been out walking the dog at midnight. I haven't decided yet. part of what is going through my mind is that everyone else out in pubs will probably be rat arsed so If I get rubbish it wont be noticed. I will of course be taking nal in plenty of time... I think 2 1/2 hours will be a good plan. presuming I don't drink in the next couple of days (feeling fairly safe) it will be almost a week af which at the moment is what I am aiming for.

[bkyogagurl]

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I'm feeling lonely.. I know you started the thread Spud but I have been present thru all the thread and I don't feel like people address my posts. Guess I am feelings sorry for myself.

Best wishes friend- this is where I get funny and back awAy from the threads

UK- not you of course I will PM you as I was before....

See ya

[Jazi's Mum]

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Hi there bkyogagurl. Sorry you feel so lonely today. It's easy to get lost in the shuffle. Could you start your own thread? Then we could all chip in there too. I remember posting a request for information that i really needed and got ZERO response!

JMum

[bkyogagurl]

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This is my thread .... I have been here from first post

[bkyogagurl]

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How insightful.. Why would I start my own thread when I felt completely comfortable here? Til now.

[YouKayBee]

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bkyogagurl;1604501 wrote: How insightful.. Why would I start my own thread when I felt completely comfortable here? Til now.

Is there a way in which you prefer us to post?I have been following but find it hard to focus at times (which is how I often am in my current life at the moment).

[Jazi's Mum]

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Yes, I'll second what Ukblonde said. I would really love to respond and comment because I feel it's important to be interested in others and what they experience. And I hope they will help me out too.

But there is so much going on that I find it hard to keep up. bkyogagurl only you know which way you want to go - your own thread or stay here. I just got a little confused because I thought you were uncomfortable in general and were going to leave the thread. If you are just going through a bad patch that's something different. Here's some good feeling coming your way: :l :h

[skullbabyland]

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I'll be happy to make an effort to check in here more, to both Spud and BK, and about all things TSM. Though I only have limited experience with it, I often find UKB's and other's input quite valuable.

That said, BK, I'd second JMum's suggestion to consider additionally starting a progress thread all your own- I really find value and comfort in my own. Even if the thread is sometimes quiet, it feels good to have a little journal all my own. It's like my own little corner of the Net, complete with friends who check in

[spuddleduck]

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woah, bkyoga, I never really intended this thread to become a thread as such. its mainly you being here and us being basically on the same page that has kind of kept it going. I know im tending to ramble on about myself and my stuff but I guess that's what im needing to do at the moment. tell you what if you start a bkyogagurl thread I will be jumping in headfirst. cant get rid of me that easily. I know how you feel, ive felt the same myself at times posting my little bit and feeling invisible (I hibernated for a while because of it and my feathers went all scruffy and dull) I have realized that time differences can make a difference on posts and especially at this time of year our daily routines are all tits up. please keep posting, if not here then somewhere else. you are my partner in crime with this nal business, and helping me keep going (hope im doing a bit of the same for you)

[spuddleduck]

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well back to my self indulgent rambling. I could have thumped mr spud today. I was talking about my debate of will I /wont I go out drinking on new years eve. he fancies it which is fine my me. I told him I would be taking my nal in good time before I drink. his response is why bother taking the pill when you know you are going to be drinking..... IM THINKING HES JUST NOT GETTING IT. I have explained tsm to him but its obviously not going in. I have now given him 'homework' to do and I may demand a 1000 word essay on naltrexone and tsm. hmph!!!
on a lighter note I sailed through today with no concerns about drinking, lots of doggy walking and fairly healthy eating. so I shall say toot toot and blow my own trumpet TOOT TOOT!

[YouKayBee]

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spuddleduck;1604720 wrote: well back to my self indulgent rambling. I could have thumped mr spud today. I was talking about my debate of will I /wont I go out drinking on new years eve. he fancies it which is fine my me. I told him I would be taking my nal in good time before I drink. his response is why bother taking the pill when you know you are going to be drinking..... IM THINKING HES JUST NOT GETTING IT. I have explained tsm to him but its obviously not going in. I have now given him 'homework' to do and I may demand a 1000 word essay on naltrexone and tsm. hmph!!!
on a lighter note I sailed through today with no concerns about drinking, lots of doggy walking and fairly healthy eating. so I shall say toot toot and blow my own trumpet TOOT TOOT!

This is where it's really difficult for you having an alcoholic partner. I was lucky enough to have someone who understood, who came with me to see Dr Chick, who saw how much I suffered with baclofen, and who just let me get on with it. I also asked him to go to an Al Anon meeting which he did, just the once & I think it helped him. Anyone else I just didn't say very much to, and most thought I'd quit I changed so much so quickly. I would try to explain, then they'd ask me how long I'd been sober.

At the end of the day you have to do this for you Spud, no-one else and you taking a tablet 1 hour or 2 hours before, well it doesn't affect him. If he's ever going to understand he will when he sees your drinking calms down, but you'll still have to be doing it for you.

Few days ago I was trying to encourage Mr UKB to do something, his reasons for not were not very good, I sort of detached and gave up. He went to the pub, and I knew he'd been enjoying a few drinks over Christmas (when I say a few drinking I mean just that, 2 or 3 max), but it still pissed me of a bit. It pissed me off that he can do that, but at the same time I thought well I don't have to go have a drink, I sort things out without that so there. His drinking doesn't affect me or our relationship directly and I just deal with my alcohol intake myself.

I had that fecking drinking dream last night, just like 3 weeks ago and I thought I'd f'd up my 5 months and a bit AF period. Well I haven't and I have a chance to carry on being AF, yay.


Now with TSM you are supposed to drink as you feel, if you feel like drinking NYE well why not, so long as you've popped your 50mg then it doesn't matter. Just take the frikking pill :H:H:H:l