Is excessive negative thinking a by product of tritating up?
I said in another thread, I'm increasing baclofen to try and become indifferent to opiates. It's now day 121 and im on 320mg of baclofen. The past 4 months have been a bit of a roller coaster for me depression/anxiety wise.
It's quiet at work until the new year so I'm trying to be aggressive in my increases 25mg every 6 days or so to reach the 350mg mark a week before NYE and reevaluate. This will allow the SE to go away before work gets busy again.
I find that it takes about 5 days for the SE to go away. Normally they are just day time sleepiness but I also wake up early when going up in dose, 4am and I have some serious negative thinking going on. it causes me to use opiates to squash the thoughts. I've started to write them down and i look at them later and I realise how ridiculous they are in hindsight. the point of me going up in bac is to stop using opiates though. yet going up is causing me to use opiates. AGH!
It's making quitting the codeine really hard because I have these aweful negative thoughts that cycle in my mind. I try to think of something else but the main subject comes back and I find myself thinking about it constantly. The only thing that makes it go away is a bit of codiene which gives me a small amount of respite.
I have an appointment with an opiate detox center on monday and see what they have to say. I don't know how they will take my baclofen experiment though, they are an addiction centre so perhaps they will have heard of it. I hope so since every doctor just throws an SSRI at me and tells me to go get therapy which never ever works because of the cravings.
ok im rambling here, i came here with a simple question but i ended up with this. Sorry for the wall of text. Just looking to see if negative thinking is a by product of the baclofen. It seems to be excessive when going up in dose.
I said in another thread, I'm increasing baclofen to try and become indifferent to opiates. It's now day 121 and im on 320mg of baclofen. The past 4 months have been a bit of a roller coaster for me depression/anxiety wise.
It's quiet at work until the new year so I'm trying to be aggressive in my increases 25mg every 6 days or so to reach the 350mg mark a week before NYE and reevaluate. This will allow the SE to go away before work gets busy again.
I find that it takes about 5 days for the SE to go away. Normally they are just day time sleepiness but I also wake up early when going up in dose, 4am and I have some serious negative thinking going on. it causes me to use opiates to squash the thoughts. I've started to write them down and i look at them later and I realise how ridiculous they are in hindsight. the point of me going up in bac is to stop using opiates though. yet going up is causing me to use opiates. AGH!
It's making quitting the codeine really hard because I have these aweful negative thoughts that cycle in my mind. I try to think of something else but the main subject comes back and I find myself thinking about it constantly. The only thing that makes it go away is a bit of codiene which gives me a small amount of respite.
I have an appointment with an opiate detox center on monday and see what they have to say. I don't know how they will take my baclofen experiment though, they are an addiction centre so perhaps they will have heard of it. I hope so since every doctor just throws an SSRI at me and tells me to go get therapy which never ever works because of the cravings.
ok im rambling here, i came here with a simple question but i ended up with this. Sorry for the wall of text. Just looking to see if negative thinking is a by product of the baclofen. It seems to be excessive when going up in dose.
lease:
It f**ked with my thoughts and mood and anxiety but certainly didn't break anything. Maybe tinker around a bit and find a dose that's more comfortable? Sounds like you're doing that already, and 270 is treating you better, which is great. You can always go back up if you feel you need to, and increasing often isn't as rough the second time after a little break. You might find 320 a lot easier after some time at 270, or whatever you end up doing.
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